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Default VancouFFR Metrotown Meetup [BC, Canada]



Attention Local Keysmashers!


Metrotown FFR Meetup 2018

Saturday, November 17th

CHQ 5pm-whenever
Dinner at Kawawa Ramen when we're hangry enough.

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beary605
CarrotCake94
ohsosilly
PrawnSkunk
soramimi
T-Force
vedrit
Xtreme2252
Zageron




VancouFFR 16
why are these so fun?!
April 21-22 2018
~planning in motion~




Activities: There will be a wide variety of rhythm and non-rhythm related activities to do! Various card/board games including Scythe, CAH, Exploding Kittens, Takenoko, and more.

What to bring: $15/person. VancouFFR will be providing drinks and snacks, as well as a pizza dinner. Everyone is encouraged to bring things too (laptop, keyboards, games, snacks, or drinks)! If you plan to stay overnight, please plan ahead.

Meetup Rules: We have never had any issues in the past, so let’s keep it that way! No illegal anything. Be nice to the cat, be respectful of others and most importantly, HAVE FUN!

If you’re interested in attending VancouFFR, please contact CarrotCake94 through Discord (CarrotCake94#1191), if you are planning to go/stay overnight.

We hope to see you there!

– The VancouFFR Team

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CarrotCake94’s “StepMania Dungeon” in Coquitlam
The residential address will be provided through private messaging once you have RSVP'd

15 minute walk from Burquitlam Skytrain Station, Coquitlam, BC V3J 0A3
Accessible bus stops nearby.
Lots of Parking available.

Yay! Sleepover!


wine
cheesecake
bacon-wrapped jalapenos
sushi
pizza


Next day....

Sunday Brunch ~ sometime in the morning... possibly late morning.
Denny's 500 Austin Ave, Coquitlam, BC V3K 3M7
https://www.dennys.ca/food/breakfast/

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Likely Attendees???:
CarrotCake94
vedrit
soramimi
T-Force
Ippikiryu
Xtreme2252
PrawnSkunk
...




VancouFFR 15: Snowmageddon

December 1-3 2017
RSVP HERE!

Attention Local Keysmashers!

You are invited to attend VancouFFR, a meetup for Flash Flash Revolution players living in Vancouver BC and surrounding areas. To celebrate our nerdiness, we will be hosting an overnight meetup! This will be the perfect opportunity to connect with regular players, show off your skills, discuss scores and strategies, and play lots of games! If you have any questions about VancouFFR, please contact CarrotCake94 through Discord/Text/Email.

Discord: CarrotCake94#1191
Text: (604) 339 - 8733
Email: carrotcake94@hotmail.com

Activities: There will be a wide variety of rhythm and non-rhythm related activities to do! Various card/board games including Cards Against Humanity, Exploding Kittens, Takenoko, and more.

What to bring: $15/person. VancouFFR will be providing drinks and snacks, as well as a pizza dinner. Everyone is encouraged to bring their own things to share (laptop, keyboards, games snacks, and drinks)! If you plan to stay overnight, please think ahead.

Meetup Rules: We have never had any issues in the past, so let’s keep it that way! No illegal anything, no drugs, no alcohol for minors. Be nice to the cat, be respectful of others and most importantly, HAVE FUN!

If you’re interested in attending VancouFFR, please RSVP by November 30th, 2017 at 11:59pm PST.

We hope to see you there!

– The VancouFFR Team

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Meetup Schedule

Friday, December 1st 2017

Drop-In DDR/ITG ~ 6-7:30pm
CHQ Arcade inside Metropolis at Metrotown, 4700 Kingsway, Burnaby, BC V5H 4N2
https://www.facebook.com/CHQ-Arcade-284000888303812/

Vancouver Trivia Party ~ 8-10pm
Firefighters' Public House: 6515 Bonsor Ave, Burnaby, BC V5H 3E8
Menu: http://www.firefightersclub.com/pdfs/foodmenu-v4.pdf

Optional overnight stay if you need it.

Saturday, December 2nd 2017

15th Official VancouFFR Meetup ~ 10am - late
CarrotCake94’s “StepMania Dungeon” in Coquitlam
The residential address will be provided through private messaging once you have RSVP'd

15 minute walk from Burquitlam Skytrain Station, Coquitlam, BC V3J 0A3
Accessible bus stops nearby.
Lots of Parking available.

Yay! Sleepover!

Sunday, December 3rd 2017

Brunch ~ sometime in the morning... possibly late morning.
Denny's 500 Austin Ave, Coquitlam, BC V3K 3M7
https://www.dennys.ca/food/breakfast/

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Expected Attendees:
CarrotCake94
Sabertooth aka Dave
r?
Meow
RenegadeLucien
xtreme2252
PrawnSkunk
botchi
wild zigzagoon



VancouFFR 14: MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY

Attention Local Keysmashers!

You are invited to attend VancouFFR, a meetup for Flash Flash Revolution players living in Vancouver BC and surrounding areas. To celebrate our fourth year of meetups, we will be hosting an overnight meetup! This will be the perfect opportunity to connect with regular players, show off your skills, discuss scores and strategies, and try out new rhythm games! If you have any questions about VancouFFR, please contact CarrotCake94 through Discord or email. (CarrotCake94#1191 or carrotcake94@hotmail.com)

When: May 21st to May 22nd 2017. (Monday is Victoria Day... it's a stat holiday) You are welcome to start arriving at 1 PM on Sunday, or anytime Monday. Feel free to stay overnight from Sunday to Monday. We will be planning to pack up and leave before 10 PM on Monday.

Where: CarrotCake94’s “StepMania Dungeon” in Coquitlam is a 15 minute walk from Burquitlam Skytrain Station, or an 8 minute drive from SFU Burnaby. Actual Address will be sent to those that RSVP

Activities: There will be a wide variety of rhythm and non-rhythm related activities to do! Various card/board games including Cards Against Humanity, Exploding Kittens, Takenoko, and more. We even have a special themed group activity created by CarrotCake94 and Vedrit!

What to bring: $15/person. VancouFFR will be providing drinks and snacks, as well as a pizza/sushi dinner. Everyone is encouraged to bring their own laptop, keyboards, snacks, and drinks! If you plan to stay overnight, please think ahead.

Meetup Rules: We have never had any issues in the past, so let’s keep it that way! There are no age restrictions to attend, so please do not bring any alcohol. Be nice to the cat, and most importantly, have fun!

If you’re interested in attending VancouFFR, please RSVP by May 19th, 2017. We hope to see you there!

– The VancouFFR Team






VancouFFR 13: Skillboosts Guaranteed

Attention Local Keysmashers!

You are invited to attend VancouFFR, a meetup for Flash Flash Revolution players living in Vancouver BC and surrounding areas. To celebrate our third consecutive year of meetups, we will be hosting an overnight LAN party! This will be the perfect opportunity to connect with regular players, show off your skills, discuss scores and strategies, and try out new rhythm games! If you have any questions about VancouFFR, please contact CarrotCake94 on FFR.

When: November 18th to November 19th. You are welcome to start arriving at 2 PM on Friday, or anytime Saturday morning. Feel free to stay overnight from Friday to Saturday. We will be planning to pack up and leave before 2 PM on Saturday.

Where: CarrotCake94’s “StepMania Dungeon” in Coquitlam is a 15 minute bus ride from Lougheed Town Centre Station, or an 8 minute drive from SFU Burnaby.

Activities: There will be a wide variety of rhythm and non-rhythm related activities to do! Rhythm games including FFR, StepMania, K-ShootMania, and Thumper. Various card/board games including Cards Against Humanity, Personally Incorrect, Dutch Blitz, Scattergories, Exploding Kittens, Takenoko, and more.

What to bring: $20/person. VancouFFR will be providing a three-course turkey dinner, drinks and snacks. We will also have three high-end gaming PCs to livestream FFR. Everyone is encouraged to bring their own laptop, keyboards, snacks, and drinks! If you plan to stay overnight, please bring a sleeping bag and pillow.

Meetup Rules: We have never had any issues in the past, so let’s keep it that way! There are no age restrictions to attend, so please do not bring any alcohol. Be nice to the cat, and most importantly, have fun!

If you’re interested in attending VancouFFR, please RSVP by November 11th. We hope to see you there!

– The VancouFFR Team






VancouFFR Meetup 12
StepMania Dungeon 7


CarrotCake94 is hosting another Meetup?!?!?!

YES I AM!


April 1st - April 3rd 2016
Burnaby/Coquitlam Area of Metro Vancouver
(Address will be sent out at a later date)

RSVP before March 25 2016,
so I have time to stock up food/drink and arrange the necessary space to accommodate the right number of people.

Please rsvp by directly replying to this post,
commenting in the thread,
or giving me a pm on Skype.

What to Bring:
$10-$20 to pitch in for food on Friday Night and Saturday.
Sunday April 3rd Breakfast will most likely be at Denny's (500 Austin Avenue, Coquitlam)
(W)LAN Stuff: kb, mouse, laptop/pc (if you prefer your own)
Game Stuff: board games, card games, mtg, wiimotes, 3DS, etc.
FFR Stuff: FFR shirt/sweater pride, k120's for signing, etc.

Don't forget your device chargers!



Players Coming:
CarrotCake94
PrawnSkunk


Hey there fellow keysmashers! We would like to invite you to attend VancouFFR, a local meetup for Flash Flash Revolution players living in Metro Vancouver and surrounding areas. To celebrate this milestone in meetup history, we are hosting a multi-day potluck event open to all players in BC!

When: Friday, June 26th and Saturday, June 27th. You are welcome to start showing up at 2pm on Friday or at any time on Saturday. Feel free to stay overnight from Friday to Saturday. If you need a place to stay over on Saturday night, it is suggested that you depart before noon.

Where: CarrotCake94’s house in Burnaby. It’s a 15 minute bus ride from Lougheed Town Centre Station, or an 8 minute drive from SFU Burnaby (we have lots of parking space). If you are interested in attending, please RSVP to this invitation for directions, with the following:
1.) When you plan to attend. (eg. late friday and early morning saturday)
2.) What food you plan to bring.

Activities: There will be a wide range of activities to do. Playing Flash Flash Revolution, and other rhythm games, various card/board games (Cards Against Humanity, Magic: The Gathering, Dutch Blitz), Nintendo 3DS and Wii games, watching a movie marathon, and more.

What to bring:
A positive attitude!
Food (It’s a potluck! Bring food to share, rather than giving us money). Include a label and ingredient list for your food item.
Please let us know if you have any allergies or dietary/health concerns we should be made aware of (asthma, diabetes, allergic to peanuts, etc.)
Sleeping bag/pillow/change of clothes if you choose to sleep overnight.
Feel free to bring your own laptop, games and drinks.

Meetup Rules:
We have never had any issues in the past, so let’s keep it that way.
Illegal substances of any kind will not be tolerated.
There are no age restrictions to attend, but you must be of legal drinking age to bring or consume alcohol. We will be checking IDs.
No smoking or vaping is permitted on the property.

We look forward to hearing back from you! If you are reading this message after the event is over, please contact us if you are interested in attending our next meetup!

The VancouFFR Team

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omg photos~


Carrot Cake 94.






CCCC AAA




performance enhancing elixers




group cuddles




StepMania dungeon crawler


babybird1212


VancouFFRites, ordered by skill rating (shoutouts to 25thhour passing T-Force only hours before the group pic)



The 9th Official VancouFFRMeetup: StepMania Dungeon 5

January 31st 2pm->overnight (optional)
8 minutes drive from SFU Burnaby or 15 minutes from Lougheed Skytrain Station

Overnight LAN Party.
Rhythm Gaming, Card Games, Board Games, bring your own games.
Bring moneys for food ($10-$15).
Feel free to bring your own snacks and drinks.
Breakfast in the morning!? Either in-home or at Denny's


VancouFFR Meetup 8: (Stepmania Dungeon 4)
When: Friday, November 14th, 2014 5pm ~ overnight

FFR, Movies, MTG, CAH, Werewolf/Mafia, etc

Where: CarrotCake94's Stepmania Dungeon
located 8 minutes drive from SFU Burnaby Campus
or 15 minutes from Lougheed Town Centre Skytrain

Bring $10 to help chip in for Food, Drink and snacks.
We usually get pizza/sushi for dinner

If you are staying overnight, then CarrotCake94 will most-likely prepare breakfast.
(She'll be making scrambled eggs with only a single pair of chopsticks)

unless you people want to go to Denny's :P

Private message one of the VancouFFR peoples on details of my place if you're going.
We'll probably even have a live stream going. ;D



please pm CarrotCake94 to RSVP for this event. c:

Attendees?
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CarrotCake94
Vedrit
PrawnSkunk
smartdude1212
Ippikiryu
soramimi
T-Force
RNGRX
25thhour
ohsosilly



Once upon a time...

Five random Vancouver-based FFRers decided to meet up on a whim.



What started out as a rag-tag group of 5 people who didn't really know each other at all, basically became an instant family of Pikachu-winning, Norwegian-imitating keysmashers who accidentally ate each others' dinner but still loved each other anyway (hi Trevor).


Since then, our group has grown to a whopping 15-ish people. We've done a ridiculous amount of fun things together and
(#personalnote) have become some of my very best friends and a source of comfort in a new place <3


On the one-year anniversary of this fated meeting.... WE'RE DOIN' IT AGAIN ;D

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VancouFFR Meetup 7: MetroTown + Sushi ~2014 Remix~
When: Friday, Sep. 26, 2014
Where: Meetup at
Starbucks JUST KIDDING LOL CAUSE THERE ARE THREE OF THEM let's not make that mistake again CHQ arcade on the top floor where R will walk by and pretend not to know you several times

Been to a meetup before? Never been to a meetup? Want to be loved in ways you've never thought possible?


~we can show you~


Either way, COME HANG OUT WITH US!!! :]


Attendees:
ohsosilly
PrawnSkunk
RNGRX
smartdude1212
soramimi
T-Force
Zageron


6th Official VancouFFR Meetup + LIVESTREAM

(a.k.a. Stepmania Dungeon 3)

When: Friday, July 18th @ 6 PM to Saturday Afternoon

Where: CarrotCake94's Stepmania Dungeon (it's really not that bad) contact VancouFFR peeps (or me) for more info ^w^

I live near SFU's Burnaby Campus, so if you can get there, I can give directions easily.

CarrotCake94 (of course)
soramimi
T-Force
rngrx
PrawnSkunk
zagersnoodle

YES, WE ARE DOING A LIVESTREAM... PLEASE STOP ASKING. KTHXBYE <333




Will the ust finally be resolved?


5th Official VancouFFR Meetup (+ some kid from saskatchewan)



♧♣ ST. PADDY'S BOWLING! ♣♧

When?
Monday, March 15th @ 5 PM

Where!
REVS Bowling & Entertainment Center


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Photo dump incoming



A Max, in high contrast


Initiating smartdude into the ways of the fondle


No grils on FFR


Darth Bowling


Fiffer administrators take their PDA very seriously


Thumbs up for awful bowling!


That time Mayo and Adam unintentionally made THE EXACT SAME FACE


Thumbs up for marginally better bowling! or: Adam has one leg


ohsozaggy is taking none of your sass.


spectatin'


the contrast got all crazy with this photo. now it just looks like a bad photoshop job :P


max, loving griltime


Trevor, fulfilling his autograph-signing dreams


Well hello, Max


Blurry but I liked it too much to delete it <33333


A ver mysterious hoarder of K120s


Field trip to sushi restaurant...


... in which Trevor scandalously bares his midriff and no one is surprised


Claudia teaching...


... EXCITING SURPRISE GUEST HAMMY MCSQUIRREL how to use chopsticks


Dinner table qts


Enjoyin' sushi & sake


Trevor's attempts to photobomb r futile


"Ugh, do I really have to take a picture with you"...


More beautiful autographing




Continued enthusiasm for girl time


BFFs


Blurry but so cuuuuute


Two beautiful humans


THE CREW


~~~Girl picz 4 EvEr ~~!


Boys were sick of being left out


Ode to fiffer


...aaaaaaand there's only one picture I could possibly conclude with...


Max u are out of control

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pictures?


adam thoroughly enjoying the sex egg in all its erotic glory


sober bowling!


celebrity autographs


everyone went home with a 2014 VancouFFR poster goodie bag

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well met!

(for full resolution, remove the "l" before ".jpg")















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you're all sexy mofuckas
this post brought to you by mayo buying me highballs for $3.50
not drunk

here's the teaser because you're all sexy
it's blurry but i like to pretend that that's because it's in my blurry yaoi fantasy world what? who said that




i love all of you <3


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Attendees:


♣ honorary Vancouverite, smartdude1212
♣ honorary Vancouverite, HammyMcSquirrel
♣ Carrotcake94
♣ ohsosilly
♣ PrawnSkunk
♣ soramimi
♣ T-Force
♣ Zageron


4th Official VancouFFR Meetup

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Okay dudes. Since there's a whopping THREE of us that happen to have birthdays this month...

soramimi - Jan. 11
PrawnSkunk - Jan. 17
Zageron - Jan. 30

... We've talked about a joint bday celebration! Here's the proposed deets:

Date: EITHER Friday, January 24 or Saturday, January 25 (which one's better for you guys?)
Location: EXP Bar (Video game-themed bar in downtown Van - check out the menu, it's sick): http://www.expbar.ca/
Time: TBA, but probably about 6? That way we can gorge ourselves on Triforce Burgers and if we're really courageous, sip on some First Person Shooters ;D aww yee

This event is also dedicated to R, who just really really needs to go to the bar
xD
Attendees: (19+ Only)
  • Carrotcake94
  • ohsosilly
  • PrawnSkunk
  • RNGRX
  • soramimi
  • T-Force
  • Zageron


Previous Meetups


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Some of the beauties from Max's birthday celebration last night...









Can't wait to do this again next weeeeeeek!
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Sorry I didn't post this sooner! but here are the B52's!

Remind me to take one more shot on Friday (because I had the closest guess of how big the bill was going to be)


VancouFFR^3 Meetup

fiffer slumber party. january 4th. contact carrotcake94 for directions.





And you all wish you had a bromance like the one Zag, Prawn, and I have.






VancouFFR^3 cookies courtesy of soramimi!


K120 party favors



Canucks:
  • Carrotcake94
  • ohsosilly
  • PrawnSkunk
  • soramimi
  • T-Force
  • Zageron


VancouFFR Meetup Shenanigans R^2












Sorry about the blur, Evnoir D:


R's face in every picture ever = <3


More stepman love


Branching out


R's improvised name


Playin' old school filez for index fun


An autographed K120. Such excitement.


Watching the master at work.


Don't remember what this is about, but love this one.




Getting sleepier...


FFR + caffeine = <3


so. much. fiffer.


A blurry Bazinga.


In the midst of Monster #1...


we won't sleep we won't sleep we won't sleep we won't sleep we won't sleep we won't sleep


Coming up on 5 a.m. by this point...


WE WON'T SLEEP




After Monster #2


Sleepy delirium setting in


Long-armed selfies abound


Back on the Livestream Grind, feat. R (Snuggles in Blankies After His Nap Remix)


Circa 7:30 am, fighting off sleep...

Which brought on this final beautiful/disturbing series of images:













wow sugoi ze hoho






sleepy time for little carrotcakes :')


3 down, 4 to go




This event will be live-streamed friday evening. A communal PC has already been set up for the 8 of us to switch in and out periodically smashing arrows.

We will post in the ffr livestream thread when the stream goes live. We hope to see you there!

When: Friday, November 8th from 6:00PM to 1PM the next day (SLUMBER PARTY, AW YISS)
What: pizza grease and pre-smashed arrows
Where: Carrotcake94's Stepmania Dungeon (not sketchy at all, we promise) [Don't bring much drug. -- zag]
☛ for directions, please PM Carrotcake94



Attendees: (8)
Zageron
RNGRX
PrawnSkunk
T-Force
ohsosilly
Ippikiryu
Carrotcake94
Evascythe
beary605
evnoir
soramimi


When: Friday, September. 27th, 2013 @ 4pm
Where: Metrotown Mall (Skytrain Side, or at the Arcade if you're gonna be late.)
What: Arcade, Hot Drinks, Movie OR Chill at Cafe
Who: So far the mean age is under 19, so no pubs.

If you want to come, sign in here. I'll see ya there.

Attendees:
Zageron
RNGRX
PrawnSkunk
T-Force
ohsosilly


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Zag: Everyone showed up and we had a complete blast. Won about 2400 tickets and earned ourselves two plush Pikachu.











































Initial D masta


This one came out real weird, Trevo, sorry aboot that, eh?


friendshipz


The official counter ;P


Backpack o' tix. We are out of control.




stealth photo of Zag's fan club :P


Max doin' work ~




effing love this one lolol EXCITE








R's first ever ITG score xD




everything moves around Zag, rofl


eating ~prawns~ heh heh


FFR focus in McDonald's


best one of the bunch looooooooool


the pikachu dudes


"trying to be norwegian"


reppin' our divisions xD



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Can someone fly me there? I'm from Chicago.
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The time is absolutely perfect (I get to Metrotown Station at 4:25pm on a school day) but unfortunately it's a no school day I would like to come but too difficult to get out of the house.
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YES! I DON'T WORK THAT DAY!
I'll try to drag ohsosilly out to this as well.
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Um yes please, no dragging necessary!! This just made my week so much better ^_^
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I'll be at work from like 5-9 that day in Surrey
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The time is absolutely perfect (I get to Metrotown Station at 4:25pm on a school day) but unfortunately it's a no school day I would like to come but too difficult to get out of the house.
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I'll be at work from like 5-9 that day in Surrey


Too bad we can't accommodate everyone's time schedule ;_; I'd love to meet each one of you guys in person!
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Old 09-24-2013, 03:06 AM   #14
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Damn, I wish could go. I'm at UBC until 6 that day and it takes like an hour to get to Metrotown from there by transit _(:3」∠)_
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Gah, when will you guys do one in Calgary!
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Put me down as a maybe? depending how much money I have spare on friday.
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If only I still lived in BC lol
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can't make it at that time x.x Maybe another Vancouver meet?
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