File Testing

[omgitznpv]

Okay. I'm quite sick of all the people in the Queue/Batch Discussion Thread asking for people to test their files.

If you want one of your files tested, post about it here. State that you have a file you want others to test and give feedback on. Testers can PM stating they want to test it, or simply post here, along with their e-mail address or something so the file can be sent.

There is also a list of people who are willing to test any file sent their way being created. If you wish to be one of these people, please state that you are willing to, along with your e-mail and your experience with stepping (preferably stating what color tester you are, as well [find out below]). If you want a file tested, this can be the first list of people you can look at.

Regular file testers (39) (people willing to test any file)

Key:
Prolific stepartist (10+ files) - Red
Stepartist with some files in-game/queued (5-10) - Orange
Stepartist with a few files in-game/queued (1-5) - Blue
Stepartist without a queued file - Green
File tester with little knowledge/experience - Black

If a tester wishes to be PMed when a file is sent their way, an asterisk will be next to their name.

If a tester is only willing to test files from noteworthy people (people who are not new artists, rather, people who have high experience/knowledge of stepping), their name will be marked with a plus sign.

If a tester wants to be sent an IM (such as over AIM), a ^ will be marked next to their name.

bluguerrilla - bluguerrilla@gmail.com
*SulferDragon - lorddragonian@yahoo.com
DrugstoreCowboy - drugstorecowboy@flashflashrevolution.com
BEN.(SPEIRS) 7.5 - benspeirs@hotmail.co.uk
^Silvuh - wasserfuchs@gmail.com
*bmah - brenton_mah@hotmail.com
*behanjc - jeffrey.behan@gmail.com
*TK_pavonineukon - stonescape9@hotmail.com
talisman - jpip.talisman@gmail.com
eastsideman09 - eastsideman09@gmail.com
*Xandertrax - Xeretoba@hotmail.com
unkdavar - unkdavar@gmail.com
*buizel8888 (rshadow8888) - reoishadow888@gmail.com
Knoobish - mako15@twcny.rr.com
Coolboyrulez0 - coolboyrulez0@yahoo.com
*robertsona - zanderfrancis1@aol.com
who_cares973 - who_cares973@inbox.com
PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR - psychozerosk8er (AIM)
omgitznpv - wj_bq2004@yahoo.com
XpTrIpPyNeSsXd - TrippedXD@gmail.com
dandandamdandan1111 - dandandamdandan1111@flashflashrevolution.com
*shad0wlord - shad0wlord@live.com
DivynE - GreenCherrySM@gmail.com
dean_machine - dean.dip@gmail.com
operationstrawbarry - cvk2_paranoiaevil@hotmail.com
*Arcsynth - arcsynth@gmail.com
moches - blue_light_888@yahoo.com
^Nightfirecat - nightfirecat@gmail.com
{Zero} - ddrfreak2720@aim.com / shwuambilly@aim.com
*_.Spitfire._ - tristankok@hotmail.com
Bynary Fission - logans_account@yahoo.com
*trumaestro - trumaestro@gmail.com
Nevlusti - thesquirrelboy@msn.com
Mitchtyler - mitchysimpson@hotmail.com
reptile5000 - reptile5000@hotmail.com
cyrx900 - cyrx900@hotmail.com
L0NEvvolf - l0nevvolf@hotmail.com
*chidori! - sonictailsshadow@msn.com
fido123 - mpalmer8828@hotmail.com
jonathanasdf - jonathanasdf@hotmail.com
Netjet! - Netjet20@hotmail.com
*Seefu Sefirosu - Seefu_Sefirosu@flashflashrevolution.com / Willlietz@msn.com / Seefusefirosu@yahoo.com

Keep in mind that testers may not be able to play every file sent their way; people can be busy.

[Coolboyrulez0]

Cool, someone finally made a thread.
I don't got any files to test/ I wanna test but anyone got recommendations on what song to step? Bored kid over here that needs stepping material!!!

CBR

[Tasselfoot]

i support this thread. will consider a sticky at some point.

[Nevlusti]

I support this thread too =)
Go for the sticky!

[blindreper1179]

there should be a list of trustable testers or something like that.

[who_cares973]

yay for thread
i'll test it also if anyone can test my "My Frequency" Sim that'd be great

Who_cares973@inbox.com

[cyrx900]

I'm always ready to test files ^^

cyrx900@hotmail.com

[Knoobish]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

there should be a list of trustable testers or something like that.

I think anyone who has a file in the game is pretty reliable. It shows that they at least have some grasp of what the judges are looking for in a file, and what makes a file good in general.

With that said, I'm willing to test. mako15@twcny.rr.com

[omgitznpv]

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0

Cool, someone finally made a thread.
I don't got any files to test/ I wanna test but anyone got recommendations on what song to step? Bored kid over here that needs stepping material!!!

CBR

Just do what I do and browse through artists in the Artist Blanket Permissions V2 thread (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=68438). It provides a lot of links to artists that we have full permission for, so it's useful.

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

there should be a list of trustable testers or something like that.

Mmhmm, that could be useful. People who need their files seriously tested could turn to people who know what they're doing much better (mainly people with files in-game). Still, if someone just wants to generate opinions on a file, I still find that random people (who know at least what they're doing, they just don't have to be an amazing stepartist) could help.

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

i support this thread. will consider a sticky at some point.

cool.

Originally Posted by Knoobish

I think anyone who has a file in the game is pretty reliable. It shows that they at least have some grasp of what the judges are looking for in a file, and what makes a file good in general.

With that said, I'm willing to test. mako15@twcny.rr.com

Mostly. But I think if they have only one or two files, one of their files has to be quite good (like your 600 AD in piano).

[verra]

I'll test some files. hillbillymike1@aol.com and yes I need a new screenname.

[.dot]

Yay. ^-^
Oh, and yeah. Please sticky this.

[rshadow8888]

I'll test some stuff

reoishadow888@gmail.com

edit for the below poster: I have 1 queued file, 2 if you count 1 that was rejected solely for song dislike. I am a decent file maker, I just don't have the patience to spend hours stepping one song.

Also, I am willing to be a regular tester. I would say I fall into the blue group.

[omgitznpv]

I have an idea. Instead of having everybody post something like "I'll test! -insert e-mail address here-," how about we have a list of people who are always willing to test files on my first post? This way, people who need their file tested could simply look at the first post in this thread, see which people are file testers, and they could just send the file to that person from there.

There could also be indications of whether a person is a prolific stepartist, has a couple files in-game, has submitted files but none have been queued/some random person with some knowledge of what would make a good file, or a completely random person who just wants to test files. This could help people who want people with certain experience to test their file. These people can be indicated by their name being in a different color.

This could look something like:

File testers

Key:
Prolific stepartist - Red
Stepartist with a couple files in-game - Blue
Stepartist without a queued file - Green
Willing file tester with little/no knowledge - Black

ex1 - asgdsg@asdasf.com
ex2 - fefefasfgdggag@wht31q2rhg.com
ex3 - egghtjojkoigj@sfasfgg.com
ex4 - asdsgsgs@1.com
ex5 - ofqrfiasfi5@lol.com
ex6 - gtfo@asdf.com
ex7 - ifail@fail.com
ex8 - lasdlskfgagf@nou.com

People who are willing to test files from anybody can simply state they will be willing to do so in this thread. Whoever wishes to do so should state their e-mail address and their status (from above).

ps I just realized this would help improve the quality of files going into each batch.

[Xandertrax]

I suppose I could be a regular tester.

Xeretoba@hotmail.com

I'd fall under the blue genre, if that's the plan you're following.

[bluguerrilla]

Yeah, edit that into your OP.

That said, willing to test sims @ bluguerrilla@gmail.com.

lol @ ex. 7

[Knoobish]

Know what would be nice? If file senders without a file in the queue or in the game had to get at least 2 blue or red testers to test their file before they sent it in to help filter out the crap going into the queue. I'm sure some of it will still get rejected, but it would definitely help if we had enough people supporting it.

This could be verified by having the people who submit their files also submit a PM or something from the blue/red tester saying that X file(s) are good to go into the game.

[bluguerrilla]

That's a little bureaucratic but if someone were to manage it it could work out to save the FFR-Testers time.

Know what would be really neat? If instead of running this all through e-mail it could be run through part of the site.

That way a group of initial testers (such as R1 file authors, we're trusty people) could do a run through on files whenever they want and give feedback and other people could give authorization to move onto the batch. I dunno, just ideas.

[omgitznpv]

Originally Posted by Knoobish

Know what would be nice? If file senders without a file in the queue or in the game had to get at least 2 blue or red testers to test their file before they sent it in to help filter out the crap going into the queue. I'm sure some of it will still get rejected, but it would definitely help if we had enough people supporting it.

This could be verified by having the people who submit their files also submit a PM or something from the blue/red tester saying that X file(s) are good to go into the game.

This would be terrific- people who never knew what they were doing could be forced to heed (well, at least note) others' advice. I see a few things with this suggestion, however.

Though blue/red testers have agreed to test all files sent their way (or try to, actually), this would create an overload of work for them. It's kind of like a pre-batch- these testers would become more of the judges (jx/rebirth/tass), so they have to judge all these files before going into the batch, which get judged before they get into the queue. We probably can't do this until we have a whole bunch of people willing to test files. If one tester has had enough work, they can simply inform someone (such as myself) to indicate in this thread not to send them any files (until the next batch?).

In addition, if we were to have numerous blue/red testers state x number of files should be noted in the batch, it would get confusing (overlapped x files and such). It would be better for the testers to say what files they judged going into the batch, and once a file is noted twice, then it becomes present in the batch.

How would random simartists be aware that they need to do so? You'd have to place this throughout every thread that gives directions, or inform everybody that sent an untested file that they must get it tested.

I think one blue/red tester for now would be enough, though two or more would still help. This would lessen the possible workload that I see.

Great suggestion; I'm sick of seeing a whole lot of crap in each batch (like what my first files were like, rofl) that just creates more and more work for Rebirth/jx/Tass. Also, this forces each stepartist to have to spend more and more time on each file to perfect it, lessening their output even further. This could result in batch notes coming sooner.

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

Know what would be really neat? If instead of running this all through e-mail it could be run through part of the site.

That way a group of initial testers (such as R1 file authors, we're trusty people) could do a run through on files whenever they want and give feedback and other people could give authorization to move onto the batch. I dunno, just ideas.

This would definitely help the quality and quantity of files that go in each batch, which I'm sure everybody would prefer. But like I said, this is like a pre-batch batch and that seems like a little too much, especially with the fact that our output going into each batch has been drastically cut.

[Knoobish]

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

That's a little bureaucratic but if someone were to manage it it could work out to save the FFR-Testers time.

Know what would be really neat? If instead of running this all through e-mail it could be run through part of the site.

That way a group of initial testers (such as R1 file authors, we're trusty people) could do a run through on files whenever they want and give feedback and other people could give authorization to move onto the batch. I dunno, just ideas.

I was thinking this as well. It would be a lot more convenient to have a forum to run that through.

Originally Posted by omgitznpv

This would be terrific- people who never knew what they were doing could be forced to heed (well, at least note) others' advice. I see a few things with this suggestion, however.

Though blue/red testers have agreed to test all files sent their way (or try to, actually), this would create an overload of work for them. It's kind of like a pre-batch- these testers would become more of the judges (jx/rebirth/tass), so they have to judge all these files before going into the batch, which get judged before they get into the queue. We probably can't do this until we have a whole bunch of people willing to test files. If one tester has had enough work, they can simply inform someone (such as myself) to indicate in this thread not to send them any files (until the next batch?).

In addition, if we were to have numerous blue/red testers state x number of files should be noted in the batch, it would get confusing (overlapped x files and such). It would be better for the testers to say what files they judged going into the batch, and once a file is noted twice, then it becomes present in the batch.

How would random simartists be aware that they need to do so? You'd have to place this throughout every thread that gives directions, or inform everybody that sent an untested file that they must get it tested.

I think one blue/red tester for now would be enough, though two or more would still help. This would lessen the possible workload that I see.

Great suggestion; I'm sick of seeing a whole lot of crap in each batch (like what my first files were like, rofl) that just creates more and more work for Rebirth/jx/Tass. Also, this forces each stepartist to have to spend more and more time on each file to perfect it, lessening their output even further. This could result in batch notes coming sooner.

Well, getting the word out wouldn't be a big problem. A forum announcement would be enough to get the word out, and if they can't figure out to look at a help forum before sending in a file for the first time, it's prolly gonna be crap anyways unless they are a pretty good SM simfile artist or something.

I was thinking as long as one person says yeah, the file is good, it's good to go for the batch.

We'd only have to get 4-5 people doing this as a prejudge: there's not THAT many new simfile artists, and they'll still have to stick to the 2 file rule. The only potential problem I see is these people getting lazy, and then it just slows up the process even more. So the blue/red testers would have to be pretty active about the process.

It was just a thought. As long as we're setting up this thread, I figured this may be a good idea.

Originally Posted by omgitznpv

This would definitely help the quality and quantity of files that go in each batch, which I'm sure everybody would prefer. But like I said, this is like a pre-batch batch and that seems like a little too much, especially with the fact that our output going into each batch has been drastically cut.

The batches are still pretty large. And its not even like it's all experience simfile artists sending in 5 files each, it's still a LOT of new people.

[omgitznpv]

Originally Posted by Knoobish

I was thinking this as well. It would be a lot more convenient to have a forum to run that through.



Well, getting the word out wouldn't be a big problem. A forum announcement would be enough to get the word out, and if they can't figure out to look at a help forum before sending in a file for the first time, it's prolly gonna be crap anyways unless they are a pretty good SM simfile artist or something.

I was thinking as long as one person says yeah, the file is good, it's good to go for the batch.

We'd only have to get 4-5 people doing this as a prejudge: there's not THAT many new simfile artists, and they'll still have to stick to the 2 file rule. The only potential problem I see is these people getting lazy, and then it just slows up the process even more. So the blue/red testers would have to be pretty active about the process.

It was just a thought. As long as we're setting up this thread, I figured this may be a good idea.

Forgot about announcements. lole.

If this is implemented, it should be a process like this:

Simartist submits to tester -> tester gives feedback -> tester imforms (Tass?) -> simartist edits or whatever -> submits

If (Tass?) doesn't get imformed, I guess he can tell the simartist they need a tested file.

I'm still trying to think of with a better way to do this, if there is.