jTWG LXV: POSTGAME

[thesunfan]

yeah I won't have time to say much now since I leave for work but yeah discuss the game here I'll have more to say when I get back

[Xiz]

List of the sacrifices:


1)Cavernio (Vanilla Mafia, Lynched Day 3)
2)LeftyRighty (Cop, Killed Night 2)
3)funnygurl (Vanilla Town, Won the Game)
4)Soramimi (Vanilla Town, Killed Night 1)
5)RNGRX (Medic, Killed Night 3)
6)Charles (Vanilla Town, Lynched Day 1)
7)T-Force (Mafia Roleblocker, Lynched Day 2)
8)Carrotcake (Vanilla Town, Lynched Day 0)
9)Yoshl (Vanilla Town, Won the Game)

[Charu]

Nice one guys, I thought this was all going to go to hell when I was watching R doing whatever he was doing.

It was quite nerve-wracking, but somehow, it became not a screw-up. I've never seen gameplay like that before, we should do more jTWG's

[Xiz]

Okay for a bunch of you playing that game for the first time, I am actually really impressed. Lots of potential out there. Very exciting to watch from the side lines.

[Funnygurl555]

I really think Cav played a great game though. I was serious earlier. I wasn't expecting her to be a wolf when I started reading.

Also, although it would've been cool if R CC'd after T-Force false claimed, what happened the next day really helped solidify who the two wolves were for me.

[TWG Canada]

grats to the new people. i probably singlehandedly scared off everyone

serious apologies to ohsosilly - i really got heated, and I'm sorry. Please don't take anything i said personally, as nothing was meant personally at all. I really hope you can look past that and forgive me

that goes for anyone else in the game that i exploded onto

@Cavernio, hopefully that comment was interpreted properly, a comment on a wolf play, rather than what devonin thinks, a flame/dismissing of your because of your gender

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There were craptons of examples of good and bad plays in this game. good on cav for remaining active throughout the game. makes 2 games in a row for me where i trust active people and get kicked in the ass for it.

more comments and stuff when i can shake the shittiest feeling i've felt in a long time lol

[j-rodd123]

good game, hope you all enjoyed it

[DaBackpack]

Good job town!!

R.I.P. YoshL

[Xiz]

This is a friendly reminder to everyone that whatever is said in a game should stay in a game. Wipe your hands and be done with it and move on to next game ^^
Remember: Take nothing said in game seriously because it is just a game

[TWG Canada]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Remember: Take nothing said in game seriously because it is just a game

imagine TWG without insults or flaming.

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[Gun92]

Good job folks. Entertaining to read from the sidelines. Good on a lot of you new guys and hopefully we will get a chance to play again sometime soon under less hectic circumstances.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by TWG Canada

imagine TWG without insults or flaming.

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"Hi are you a wolf"
"Yea"
"Okay thanks"
"Sorry I'm a wolf"
"No i'm sorry for asking"
(Game Ends)

[Cavernio]

Originally Posted by TWG Canada

@Cavernio, hopefully that comment was interpreted properly, a comment on a wolf play, rather than what devonin thinks, a flame/dismissing of your because of your gender

You said that my anger at someone being blatantly sexist towards me was 'a play'.

That you still don't get it is beyond frustrating. I almost smashed my phone when I read

"reverting back to personal insults oooooh

should i fake a reaction and get someone replaced from the game because i feel too insulted? ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh"

because that's how legitimately angry I am at this.


I am NOT saying that you, specifically were being sexist towards me. I did not see what you said as being dismissive of my gender, but you being dismissive of me for getting upset at being treated because of my gender, and it bothers me to no end that you do not understand whatsoever why I would still be enraged by this.

You insinuated that I FAKED being angry to advance my position in the game. That you would even think that this is an OK thing to do is the problem. You are belittling me, you are saying that I should be laughing off being treated sexistly, and furthermore, you're saying that I have no scruples, that I would be sexist, racism, homophobic or whatever, to play a game.

It's not OK to joke about sexism. And that's what you were doing. Either I can be angry with what you said or I can take it as a joke or something like you meant it and be like 'ha ha guys, sorry my over-reaction from earlier, I guess it was kinda funny...' As if I would do that, as if you should expect me to do that. That's disgusting and disturbing.

I don't even know how you expected me to react to that in any sort of positive way. And I don't know why, in a game, it's suddenly alright to act or be sexist. Like, the only reason that that would be a thing one would want to DO in the TWG would be to anger someone because you want them to take you seriously so you can gauge their reaction. For anyone saying that such a thing like this is acceptable is saying 'yes, you can be sexist or racist or a homophobe specifically because it's a tool of the game to insult people via their gender, their race, and their sexual orientation.'

If that is the way the game is allowed to be played, then I'm out.

I have a pretty high tolerance to all the BS that happens on this website. And I don't think I've ever reported someone until now.

I can't even believe that this is being discussed as 'well, it's a game...'

[TWG Canada]

All i can say at this point

I'm sorry you interpreted my intentions wrongly.

I actually am going to refuse to apologize about anything else, because you even over-reacted at gun's post. I'm seriously not going to hold back in saying you were essentially tumblr-esque at that. Gun did not mean any bit of sexism, and even pmed me during the game because he was that confused at your reaction.

If you explode at something like that, then yeah. you really shouldn't play TWG. TWG isn't meant to offend people, and i'm pretty sure players know that. Take people's comments with a grain of salt.

Gun was not insulting you, nor trying to insult you.

I was not insulting you, nor trying to insult you.

if you can't denote that "ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh" is a stupidly obvious way of saying "this is meant as a playful poke at you" then thanks for saying so

if you seriously reported me for saying that, then i'm being serious as well. don't play twg again.

[TWG Canada]

Originally Posted by Gun92

Dudette then, I apologize as gender is a difficult thing to discern on the internet. No one should have claimed any roles yet. No reason to. Do you know why?

Originally Posted by Cavernio

How fucking stupid do you think I am???

Originally Posted by Gun92

Just asking a question. No reason to get up in arms about things. I want to know why that is part of your reasoning for things is all. Plus, it was a sincere question because I wanted to know if you knew why instead of me just telling you why. That is why I am in this game in the first place.

Originally Posted by Cavernio

It was pretty insulting, given that my whole mode of operating is consistent with me understanding why people don't say roles in day 1.

Originally Posted by Gun92

Yup. You caught me. I could never fight that psychic power women seem to have. You guys just know me all too well, almost better than I know myself. I'm going to bed. Its been an enjoyable hour with you folks. See you in the am if I am still around.

Originally Posted by Cavernio

That this post is sincere is the problem. It's insulting to have someone basically tell me 'here, let me help you helpless female, are you thinking at all?'
And then be like 'psychic women powers'. Why does my gender have ANYTHING to do with you acting like I'm a child and you're offering me help? Why not just 'psychic powers'?

I wasn't upset that people were calling me a he, I have a name that ends in 'o', it's a masculine name. I was merely informing people so they can use the correct pronoun. That is all.

I wasn't looking to use outdated, stereotypical gender roles so that I could play a helpless female for TWG's sake. Because if I wanted to act like a helpless person I could do that without having to say I'm one gender or another.

But yeah, great, thanks for solidifying that I keep a masculine name for a reason. Fucktard.

you seriously took gun's comment too seriously. if that wasn't sarcasm then i don't know what is anymore, and i'll keep my ban, probably double it for "ban evasion" amirite

[TC_Halogen]

TWG rules need to be strictly enforced if TWG is going to get this touchy on bans.

I understand that the context of jTWG means that veteran players need to be a bit calmer, but TWG is a massive game of deception, and facade is a large part of the strategy. People were getting up in arms when I banned j-rodd for his ridiculous vulgarity in a post-game but this implicit reference to a post made by someone else is causing YoshL to get a longer ban than the initial post.

People get blasted all the time in this game, and I think it's ridiculous that an implicit mention towards something in TWG, where this behavior happens very regularly, and get banned for it, yet the same thing can happen in TGB and it likely doesn't get taken care of at all. A line needs to be drawn.

[Charu]

I really think it's simple, as long as personal/family stuff does not get thrown in jabs, it's all fair game.

How players perceive jabs however is a different story.

[Charu]

Also, let me just say right now.

I don't know how many players in this game which this was their first werewolf game. They may not fully understand that TWG/Mafia is a completely different mindset, one in which you don't take it personal, ever.

I made that mistake in my first game, though I kept at it though because I saw how the players were after the game. Complete 180, that's when I learned not to take TWG too seriously.

[TC_Halogen]

It's hard not to take the game at face value when you're new. When I got into it with Xiz in game 108, I was legitimately heated and angry to the point where I was sincerely spewing profanity and other extremely rude remarks in response to him, and it was all because I was a wolf who got spotted in a ridiculous lie, haha.

Seeing this situation really reminded me of that game.

[DarkManticoreX2]

I would like us to address the game and not Caverino specifically.

It feels like Caverino is being attacked, and she hasn't been presented with an opposing viewpoint on the issue showing her how the issue may have been misinterpreted.