TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

@Fall of An Empire.
Quoting this because this game doesn't have post game info, but there's enough players from that game in this game to confirm this.

Yeah, Soundwave- was VT.

yeah i guess not seeing him in the role list is what made me not connect it there, thanks - i'll take that as your read

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

What made you post that?

It's a concession that there's a very limited set of scenarios in which I believe you're wolf at any point in this game. That works in your favor regardless of alignment.

I dunno since I haven't seen a wolf game from you but I just think you'd have an easy time duping me.

Originally Posted by inDheart

this is not even close to the response i'd expect to people's reads on you

It's a meme fam.

Originally Posted by inDheart

pushing aside questions pointed in his direction like haku's

Damn fam pointing fingers before I even get a chance to skillfully deflect answer questions.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Well, he can probably explain his own game better himself if that matters.

I won't unless it's considered significantly beneficial; self-meta is not well received from me. That being said, describing that game is a perpetual bad situation for me would be accurate, I'd say.

I mean, let's be honest, it was just a perpetual bad situation for town in general.

[Lightknight924]

I want to know why InDheart voted for me based off of that quote without any reasoning behind it

[FreezinIce]

Hey don't judge me yet, there's still time for me to throw down 500 posts before end of today

[FreezinIce]

I will drop a stream-of-consciousness bomb on your ass

[DarkManticoreX2]

Man, thanks the history thread v3.

That's 2 and a half hours of my life I'm not getting back

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Hey don't judge me yet, there's still time for me to throw down 500 posts before end of today

Don't let your dreams be dreams.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I want to know why InDheart voted for me based off of that quote without any reasoning behind it

it's a wolfy defense

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Hey don't judge me yet, there's still time for me to throw down 500 posts before end of today

TOO LATE

somehow my early game shitposting has still put me close to topposting this game even though i'm actively trying to save on posts now, what is even happening

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by inDheart

well i think he's saying he read the post but he can understand why his post can come off like he might not have.

If I read that post with this mindset, I could see that as an additional possibility.

I like InDHeart right now

[MixMasterLar]

I might be drunk, but I know I'm tipsy.

Fuck it time for responses.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Tbh tunneling and faking anger at one person is a wolf strat. I've employed it enough to recognize it when I see it. This is too much even for you mml

Go drink some water dude.

If there is one thing I am willing to cut myself and swear on the blood of my family on in this game it's that the way Haku approaches the game infuriates me to no end. You've seen it happen in enough games we've played together that this accusation smells of try-hard.

Originally Posted by tiloco217

MML's reads list didn't seem all that insightful tbh and could probably be inferred so I don't really know why he felt the need to post it. I have liked that he's been the one generating the most discussion. I want to give him a town lean but I'm still rather skeptical of him. What does ISO and yellow read mean btw?

ISO means Isolation, it's going back and reading all (or most) of a single person's post.

Yellow is just a way of saying someone very slightly leans of scum (which is Red)

If you find it not insightful, it's D0.
If I had left someone off, we'd see so many post asking what I thought of them from people.

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Sorry homies I've been mad busy IRL. I'll be reading the thread and forming some thoughts this afternoon.

Just want to point out that try-harding with a huge readslist like MML has done so early in the game is usually more wolfy than not... just my two cents. Many of the people he included in the list are just null to him so why even include them? I always do a big reads list like that as a wolf

Did I not call that she'd wolf read me? I always leave a reads list when I know I'll be gone for awhile. Actually, I feel that in most games I am the first to make such a list.

I included people so I wouldn't get asked about them later, which absolutely would happen

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I loss a town game with you and DFR as wolves, but I don't remember the details clearly. It's probably an old turbo or something.



If you're refering to the "I am a wolf" post, it's typical of me. The goal was to force MML out of a tunnel on me and check where he goes.

He ended up posting a read list and that read list + DBP/you town reading each others is making me believe that the entire wolf team is MML/tiloco/blindreper/DBP exactly.

It's very possible that I am wrong somewhere, but this is something I want to explore at the very least right now.

Let me correct you

I made that post well before I saw yours. If I had seen that bullshit I would have mentioned it in my post instead of responding afterwards. That should be pretty clear to even a passyby I think so don't spin this like I was running away.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Honestly soundwave' post feels like a wolf trying to dismiss being spotted, while giving out free town points in the process.

I didn't really get this impression.

Originally Posted by inDheart

wow this post is fucking long and makes me think word salad when i thought you'd already called someone out on that

thing is, you just end up with a lot of nulls anyway, which like...then your post could just be the reads you have, y'know? that would probably be a lot easier to write and take up less of your precious time

IF
I
OMIT PEOPLE
YOU'LL ALL WASTE SPACE ASKING
ME
ABOUT SAID PEOPLE

FUCK Freezin I'm pretty sure you've actually called me out once for it. Don't be a hypocrite.

As far as word salad goes, I was trying to add something more then just hues. I'm not justifying giving away passes or anything so I don't see your point.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

FreezinIce is abnormally quiet and his iso doesn't lead to anything that is letting me believe he really cares about the game. It's mostly just principles with minimal interactions.

It's very similar to Turbo XIII if any of you were in that game. It makes me believe he has bad luck with rolls and got wolf again. (He rolled wolf in both the Turbo XIII and Fall of An Empire.)

I agree that LightKnight does feel weird supporting him in that situation.

LightKnight came to his defense pretty quickly, but to give credit Freezin has posted much more frequently then TXIII I feel--or at least has more actual content.

Not sure he deserves a wolflean solely off of that, not unless he drops off.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I will drop a stream-of-consciousness bomb on your ass

[MixMasterLar]

I should point out that DPB came back so unless he starts some Nazi level rhetoric I'm willing to slant him towards town for the moment.

[MixMasterLar]

I'm gonna assume all you fuckers lurking in here have no questions for me

Imma play Overwatch until I'm sober enough for Waffle House then

[FreezinIce]

k i had a power outage that wiped about 2 hours of persona 5 progress from the books so im pretty much done with that for a while.

lets fuck shit up

[FreezinIce]

twg is a game of iteration for me, as it should be for every competent player. My current game is constantly a product of my sum total experience on both sides of play: in this case it's influenced largely by my past few wolf games which were crushing shutouts due to preventable incompetence from humans.

im going to do something really gross that partially involves self-meta but i want my thoughts to be a clear as possible and by extension relateable. so if you get squeamish from that go stick your head in the sand you freaking baby.

===

the biggest thing that youll find is different from my past few games as a wolf is im going to challenge indolence and lazy play when i see it. if i see someone getting a free ride im going to be up in their ass. if i see something retarded happening im going to call it out. As a wolf the last few games i made my money on letting town implode and keeping quiet even when i saw stupid behavior and assumptions that defied conventional wisdom and spat in the face of all available information.

thats not going to happen this time. If im being perfectly honest I think its stupid that people see an argument, LITERALLY ANY ARGUMENT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE, come in and quip "lol t/t" and feel like they should get a gold star for "solving" an interaction. Even if its temporarily like blind seems to think it is although i have my doubts. I think if given a chance most of you would sleep on these reads and not revisit them till they blew up in your face.

purposefully seeking out someone to argue and tunnel on is SUPRISE another strategy i employed as a wolf to great effect (See my 2-day long argument with Witch of Certainty in Classics Man which ended in her death, which i was never even held accountable for). An interaction like that can and will go either way, and if you think its t/t and dont give me compelling or persuasive thoughts on your viewpoints that span longer than 2 sentences, you shouldnt be surprised when i blow you up for it

[FreezinIce]

hey mml what did you want to accomplish by blowing up on haku.

that cliche is so played out its actually comical that it bothers you so much.

[FreezinIce]

heres the kicker for me though

this game,

HIS PLAY IS NOT EVEN THAT BAD.

with the exception of the massively pointless argument he had with blind over what boils down to semantics, i saw you have an aneurysm over what haku was saying and im thinking to myself

"whats the big problem here that warrants such an unreasonably explosive response????"

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by inDheart

TOO LATE

id appreciate if you never told me the odds 8D

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Xiz

id kill blind solely on the whole buddybuddy thing he did with me

i dont like blind's reasoning behind mml but i like dbp's


im town reading dbp because of it but blind is still null so:\

tbh i dont really like xiz a whole lot

setting down the framework so you can come back to blind if he becomes a wagon?

If blind dies and hes human i will tunnel you till you die or I die. Keep that in mind.

[tiloco217]

@freezin seems like you've been in some shitty games recently but I've found that the simple answer tends to be the right one and in this situation the simple answer is t/t in the blind/haku interaction. They are probably my strongest reads and I'm going to treat them as innocent until proven guilty for a while. I'd go over why again but I feel my stance is pretty clear. Doesn't mean your line of play is particularly wrong or bad but I tend to play on instinct and emotion significantly more than logic.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

We're 1/3rd the way through the first day; it's a little soon to throw people off the table.

is there an echo in here???