[Concluded] 2nd Official FFR StepCon!

[PrawnSkunk]

Originally Posted by t-rogdor

yo also if you guys were gonna pick a vsnares song off my love is a bulldozer why the hell wasn't it Amazon
at least that track would've offered some kinda challenge in terms of stepping, not to mention, it's actually uhhhhhhhhhhh interesting lmao

In my opinion, Amazon was a rather uninspiring jungle breakcore track that did not offer enough diversity in possible layering schemes to qualify as a final round song.

[t-rogdor]

Originally Posted by PrawnSkunk

In my opinion, Amazon was a rather uninspiring jungle breakcore track that did not offer enough diversity in possible layering schemes to qualify as a final round song.

I get that, but it's no more uninspired nor is it any less diverse than the actual song.
idk that whole album was neat but not for stepping
w/e

[hi19hi19]

If we're talking hypotheticals, I would have liked the VS song to be something that REALLY tests stepping skill...

Something off the Filth album like Labia or Calvin Kleining

[Wayward Vagabond]

Or you know not VS at all

[XelNya]

Here's how I sit:

The only song on this final round I wouldn't have used was My Love Is a Bulldozer. And not because it's uninteresting, or something else is better, but because someone else is already working on it and has posted videos on the front page of the WIP. Which means It's kinda hard to miss that for anyone who frequents the site at least twice a day. Which I know most of us do.

Video in case you're curious:

I kinda wanna request for that reason you guys pick something new and extend the round by a day. I think that'd be the best course of action. But only for the VS song. The other two are perfectly fine. I don't like to step on other people's toes when they're like halfway done already.

Otherwise, when I saw the songs for this final round I was pretty hype. I like all three of them. It was kinda hard to choose.

[hi19hi19]

Middie makes a really good point, I definitely agree with that.
Especially because the WIP in that video seems to be very far along and have a lot of effort put into it.

In general, it's probably going to be impossible to find a VS song that someone hasn't at least tried stepping, if not made a file for. Just way too popular of an artist. I've liked that all the other artists so far have been a little more obscure.
The Protest the Hero song is somewhat more "mainstream stepman music" as well but it's quite fun to step and nowhere near as ubiquitous in this community as VS, I have no objections to it really.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

The Protest the Hero song is somewhat more "mainstream stepman music" as well but it's quite fun to step and nowhere near as ubiquitous in this community as VS, I have no objections to it really.

Yeah. Protest The Hero is also the most challenging. You have to not only devise a good cut, but you also have to sync it. And syncing that probably isn't that easy. (Based on how long Animal Bones took to sync even with the BPM bases handed to me.)

Pretty much I see it this way:

You have layering / patterning / difficulty in VS
You have Sync / PR difficulty in Protest
You have PR / Gimmicks? In choice three.

It's a well devised final for sure in a way I'm probably missing.

I'm having a lot of fun with my song.

[xXOpkillerXx]

@hosts: can we start stepping or will there be changes to the round's structure ?

[Wayward Vagabond]

i already started syncing my song so if anyone changes it to something else i will be cutting off fingers

[Wayward Vagabond]

like im pretty much done so i will cut fingers

[MarioNintendo]

I seriously don't know about this round. :/

[lurker]

itt songs that would make objectively better files than any of the actual choices but would get shit on by the judges

[hi19hi19]

Damn that song is dope

[PrawnSkunk]

Thank you XelNya for bringing that to our attention. My Love Is A Bulldozer is very likely to be replaced with another song. Xiz and I will give an official statement regarding its substitution after we have a chance to talk with the judges. I apologize to everyone for the inconvenience.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Don't pick a terrible song please

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by PrawnSkunk

Thank you XelNya for bringing that to our attention. My Love Is A Bulldozer is very likely to be replaced with another song. Xiz and I will give an official statement regarding its substitution after we have a chance to talk with the judges. I apologize to everyone for the inconvenience.

Thank you guys.

[t-rogdor]

Originally Posted by lurker

itt songs that would make objectively better files than any of the actual choices but would get shit on by the judges

[TC_Halogen]

If My Love is a Bulldozer has to go, then Palms Read should go too.

It's had a chart on the DF engine for at least four and a half years, and oddly enough -- the person who gave the higher quality song cut (T-Force) also posted in the corresponding release thread on the Dragons Fury forums about how it was attributed to the wrong album all the way back in 2010. If the whole situation about people seeing a work in progress is going to be a situation, then surely a song that has been on a custom engine for as long as it has should be an issue as well.

All of the corresponding arguments are applicable for both files:

- how many people have seen the file (seen the file recently)?
- is the amount of the song charted relevant to the competition?
- is it necessary to remove either song with both songs having an unofficial existence?

[Wayward Vagabond]

FUCK YOU AJ I ALREADY SYNCED PALMS READ AND HAVE THE FIRST MINUTE STEPPEDd

[Wayward Vagabond]

instead of VS how about this instead

http://theghostof313.bandcamp.com/tr...l-isnt-working

it can be used for ffr thanks to what its licensed under