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Old 08-10-2018, 09:00 PM   #41
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that's... weird
and I'm dumb for nor instantly lynching celery for that
Oh I just realized

my case for celery town required blind to be wolf also

Celery's wolf rush makes perfect sense in the context of Celery/MML wolf

dammit
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At any time during the game anyone should always be trying to break other people's mental barriers. This game didn't have any mechanically clear people so everyone should have been worthy to be considered.

I don't get why it's considered OK to give up just because it's close to the end of the game. You should be basically playing identical to what you've already been doing
Mechanically there was.

MML and thesunfan were both present when MML was active. Mechanics should dictate (regardless if the player was aware or not) that MML could not be the wolf, or if they were, they would mechanically have to be with blind.

There's another line of logic you could run with and say all three were town and that the wolvs were dbp and blind, but I believe they went over that when that shenanigans went off.

Point is

Blind was 100% mechanically locked as a wolf no matter how you put it.
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its one of those situations where you see everything you did wrong when its all over

damn

I should've followed roundbox's reads more too, that was definitely a Lar kill
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I literally typed a post where I said something like "I guess I could be getting slowrolled...???" after I revoted after Celery spooked me but deleted it instead of posting it
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yeah, there's a lot I did wrong this game
sorry town

this is probably my worst game since Undertale, I uh
threw this one more than once
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yeah, there's a lot I did wrong this game
sorry town

this is probably my worst game since Undertale, I uh
threw this one more than once
think you're being too hard on yourself

you can play optimally and still get incorrect results
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you did 'ight sunfan. the end was just impossible
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You're fine. I think your only fault was like... telling Xiz they were lazy or something, which isn't something entirely bad (but it does feel bad to be told you're being lazy, oof).
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I have more of a problem with MML's gameplay if my indication isn't obvious enough.
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Default Re: TWG Turbo XXV: Enemy Zero - Postgame

thinking in terms of a Markov Decision Process, you can still follow the optimal policy and still end up in a poor terminal state


that's a fancy way of saying that don't be hard on yourself
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think you're being too hard on yourself

you can play optimally and still get incorrect results
I did NOT play this optimally

tbh my pushes on fg and ffa were both pretty bad
ffa was borne entirely out of frustration and I mean yeah if that happens I'm just not going to have a good reaction to it but

I played bad

I just put a lot of work into it so it looks maybe a bit better but

I could've done so many things different and if I do even one of them different town's in a much, much better position

I suppose I can take solace in the fact that Lar nearly died because of me but even then it was knee-jerk more than anything else.

Idk

Like I said before its one of those ones where I feel like I see everything I did wrong at once. I know the wolves played well and all, but that doesn't mean I couldn't have played poorly.
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you did 'ight sunfan. the end was just impossible
well yeah I don't feel bad about the end I'm never going to feel bad about the end.

I played that part right based on the info I had. You just can't assume that the wolves don't realize they can win.
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I did NOT play this optimally

tbh my pushes on fg and ffa were both pretty bad
ffa was borne entirely out of frustration and I mean yeah if that happens I'm just not going to have a good reaction to it but

I played bad

I just put a lot of work into it so it looks maybe a bit better but

I could've done so many things different and if I do even one of them different town's in a much, much better position

I suppose I can take solace in the fact that Lar nearly died because of me but even then it was knee-jerk more than anything else.

Idk

Like I said before its one of those ones where I feel like I see everything I did wrong at once. I know the wolves played well and all, but that doesn't mean I couldn't have played poorly.
I know you didn't play optimally, I'm just saying that even if you did, the outcome might not even have deviated that much, considering the state we were in during the final phase

EDIT: I should have clarified that I'm referring to the endgame
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I know you didn't play optimally, I'm just saying that even if you did, the outcome might not even have deviated that much, considering the state we were in during the final phase
nah

if I played better then I would've killed cel immediately for making a naked vote in lylo like that
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why was I lynched

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nah

if I played better then I would've killed cel immediately for making a naked vote in lylo like that
I was rooting for you too! But I suppose the sudden vote and nothing else to follow in caused you to falter so much that you just ignored it could've been that simple.

I know I would've ignored it for something deeper than it actually was... probably.
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its kind of unbelievable that I let that slide tbh

no matter how well you play up until then that kind of vote isn't permittable so

I'd say it was a massive mistake

EDIT: I'll stop multiposting. Gonna go to sleep soonish.

gg wolves

I think its pretty likely lar didn't see me revote for blind. He mentioned putting his partner to L-1 to backpack at one point I think when he would've ended up lynching them so. I think he just missed it, which happens.
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but yeah let's get on FFA's case when he looks at roundbox's reads and his conclusion is "roundbox is wrong"
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why was I lynched

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Didn't read the entirety of the first phase, but if it's like anything in FE...
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:19 PM   #60
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Or maybe I was just super awesome at convincing you!!!! For I am superwolf
I got scared with how many people called me wolf either seriously or nonchalantly in a semi joking way
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