Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Oct 16] - Page 7

icontrolyourworld · 02-18-2015, 03:26 PM

this is awesome

**PrawnSkunk** · 02-18-2015, 04:11 PM

Yes, DDRNGGin, the division boundaries have changed, and they will continue shift slightly until we find the sweet spot for each division.

Quote:

Originally Posted by portalbob340

I think grandtotal rank update notifications would be a nice addition.

Your grandtotal is updated in the database as soon as your score records. This means tracking your grandtotal rank is currently impossible, unless a separate database table would be created to track your score since you last updated your leaderboard levelranks. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll add this feature to my to-do list.

**Tidus810** · 02-18-2015, 04:14 PM

How exactly will the division placement done by this system affect actual division placement? I would assume you would use it as a guide post followed by actually checking for non-FC scores that would sway a decision one way or another.

Or, just set this up by raw score and save everyone tons of trouble.

Nice work though, this looks great!

**PrawnSkunk** · 02-18-2015, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tidus810

How exactly will the division placement done by this system affect actual division placement? I would assume you would use it as a guide post followed by actually checking for non-FC scores that would sway a decision one way or another.

Or, just set this up by raw score and save everyone tons of trouble.

Nice work though, this looks great!

Thanks, Tidus! I was waiting for this question.

Skill Rating will not determine your division placement in an Official Tournament. Although components of the leaderboard (and future technology) may be used as a reference, everyone's levelranks will be processed manually by a team of division placement judges.

edit: Using skill rating as a supplement will, however, affect actual division placement in the sense that it is more likely to catch cheaters and sandbaggers that would be missed by human analysis.

**XelNya** · 02-18-2015, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deidara837

lol world tour sightread

It's not actually a sightread. First play on this account but it's certainly not the first time I played it.

I'm actually sad because I remember this play and messing up in really stupid spots. I probably could have AAA'd this.

**Kanzas** · 02-18-2015, 04:46 PM

What the heck, why am I d4 now? D:

I dont meet teh reqs!

DDRNGGin · 02-18-2015, 04:50 PM

I know, right. I have not meet any of the requirements to be considered D4 yet.

**Kanzas** · 02-18-2015, 04:52 PM

DDR, you have actually. You SDG Monstrous Turtles lol

DDRNGGin · 02-18-2015, 04:54 PM

Kanzas, Monstrous Turtles is a low-60s difficulty song, not mid-60s.

**Deidara837** · 02-18-2015, 05:08 PM

Entry level D4s get like mid SDG on various 59-60ish stuff

Hell when I became D5 I was still struggling to consistently SDG mid 60s

**alster1** · 02-18-2015, 08:33 PM

my best score is a song that i've played 5 times 0_0

**One Winged Angel** · 02-18-2015, 08:51 PM

ugh do I actually have to ensure the difficulties somewhat make sense now

**Zageron** · 02-18-2015, 09:51 PM

**rushyrulz** · 02-19-2015, 11:02 AM

Suggestions:
Add skill points section on results screen in R^3 for every score.
Upon searching, display a player's rank within their division as well to assist with tournament placements.

**sickufully** · 02-23-2015, 09:33 AM

Has the system recently changed in the past day or two cause my rating went down 26 points. I didn't think it could go down?

**hi19hi19** · 02-23-2015, 09:35 AM

I am not sure if the formula changed recently, but remember that if a song difficulty is adjusted your rating can too.

**tosh** · 02-23-2015, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

I am not sure if the formula changed recently, but remember that if a song difficulty is adjusted your rating can too.

Yeah quite a few song difficulties are being reworked atm.

**sickufully** · 02-23-2015, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

I am not sure if the formula changed recently, but remember that if a song difficulty is adjusted your rating can too.

Actually, you're right, just realised that Within Life went from 66 to 65. Damn.

Thanks for the reminder

**hi19hi19** · 02-23-2015, 11:04 AM

That said I can definitely confirm there's a chance the formula might be tweaked soon too, but I'd expect that to come with an announcement or at least a detailed post in this thread.
There's been several areas identified where the accuracy of the ratings could be improved, and various developers have been addressing the formula further (read: making even more complicated/awesome)
Although this of course comes with the caveat that the adjustments could wind up not working and nothing will change, so always remember that.

BOOM STAFF TRANSPARENCY

**rushyrulz** · 02-23-2015, 01:43 PM

it's like ur a friggen window wow

02-18-2015, 03:26 PM	#121
icontrolyourworld Enjoy life! Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 4,182	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] this is awesome __________________ http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=149106

02-18-2015, 04:14 PM	#123
Tidus810 slimy, yet ... satisfying Join Date: May 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 1,244	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] How exactly will the division placement done by this system affect actual division placement? I would assume you would use it as a guide post followed by actually checking for non-FC scores that would sway a decision one way or another. Or, just set this up by raw score and save everyone tons of trouble. Nice work though, this looks great!

02-18-2015, 04:46 PM	#126
Kanzas Buh Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,459	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] What the heck, why am I d4 now? D: I dont meet teh reqs! __________________ Top 5 Pimp Slap - 7-0-0-1 party 4u "holy nite mix" v2 - 5-0-1-2 Fei Longer - AAA HELLBEAT - 9-0-1-3 Flame Repellent - 5-0-0-0

02-18-2015, 04:50 PM	#127
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] I know, right. I have not meet any of the requirements to be considered D4 yet. __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

02-18-2015, 04:52 PM	#128
Kanzas Buh Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,459	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] DDR, you have actually. You SDG Monstrous Turtles lol __________________ Top 5 Pimp Slap - 7-0-0-1 party 4u "holy nite mix" v2 - 5-0-1-2 Fei Longer - AAA HELLBEAT - 9-0-1-3 Flame Repellent - 5-0-0-0

02-18-2015, 04:54 PM	#129
DDRNGGin FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Murfreesboro, Tennessee Age: 25 Posts: 471	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] Kanzas, Monstrous Turtles is a low-60s difficulty song, not mid-60s. __________________ DDRNGGin's New Stats Information Playstyle: Index Current Level / Division: Level 73 (Division 5) Highest AAA/PFC: Flight of the Bumblebee (Difficulty 80) Highest Blackflag: AIM Anthem (Difficulty 76) Highest SDG: Choprite [3-0-0-1] (Difficulty 70) Highest FC (Non-mashed): BB Revenge [14-1-0-3] (Difficulty 80)

02-18-2015, 05:08 PM	#130
Deidara837 For a New Beginning Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York, United States Age: 28 Posts: 1,752	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] Entry level D4s get like mid SDG on various 59-60ish stuff Hell when I became D5 I was still struggling to consistently SDG mid 60s __________________ _9th OT: D2 - 13th Place 10th OT: D5 - 45th Place 11th OT: D6 - 12th Place EMG Rivalry \| EMG Spreadsheet

02-18-2015, 08:33 PM	#131
alster1 What is this I don't even Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!! Age: 30 Posts: 946	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] my best score is a song that i've played 5 times 0_0 __________________ Last edited by alster1; 02-18-2015 at 08:36 PM..

02-18-2015, 09:51 PM	#133
Zageron Zageron E. Tazaterra RRR Developer & DevOps Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BC Age: 32 Posts: 6,586	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] __________________ Help Develop FFR Last edited by Zageron; 02-18-2015 at 09:53 PM..

02-19-2015, 11:02 AM	#134
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] Suggestions: Add skill points section on results screen in R^3 for every score. Upon searching, display a player's rank within their division as well to assist with tournament placements. __________________ Last edited by rushyrulz; 02-19-2015 at 11:04 AM..

02-23-2015, 09:33 AM	#135
sickufully Sir Krisk Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vic, Australia Posts: 930	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] Has the system recently changed in the past day or two cause my rating went down 26 points. I didn't think it could go down? __________________

02-23-2015, 09:35 AM	#136
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] I am not sure if the formula changed recently, but remember that if a song difficulty is adjusted your rating can too. __________________

02-23-2015, 11:04 AM	#139
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] That said I can definitely confirm there's a chance the formula might be tweaked soon too, but I'd expect that to come with an announcement or at least a detailed post in this thread. There's been several areas identified where the accuracy of the ratings could be improved, and various developers have been addressing the formula further (read: making even more complicated/awesome) Although this of course comes with the caveat that the adjustments could wind up not working and nothing will change, so always remember that. BOOM STAFF TRANSPARENCY __________________ Last edited by hi19hi19; 02-23-2015 at 11:06 AM..

02-23-2015, 01:43 PM	#140
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: Skill Rating & Leaderboards Discussion [Updated Feb 17] it's like ur a friggen window wow __________________

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