TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

"Pocketing Haku" hahahaha

If someone is basically universally town read, FOLLOWING THEIR LEAD IS A GOOD IDEA. Remember how you put A LOT of confidence into your Shadowolfe theory because his reads as a confirmed town were valuable? Haku is not confirmed town but he's being about universally town read and FOLLOWING HAKU (to a degree) and encouraging him to come to his own conclusions is a GOOD thing!

ok

what about my other points

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Here's a slight scumlook at Tokzic. She says her problem with him is a complaint, and that he could be using it as a mask. Mask is obviously implying he's using it to hide his alignment, which in the context of the word complaint, heavily implies that it's a scumread.

hahahaha you're reading A LOT into the word "complaint". How is this a scumread? If anything maybe you should read into the word "mask" and see if I was thinking he might be a blue hmmmm????

Originally Posted by roundbox

Here is the FIRST TIME raeko expressed any concern toward sunfan being a wolf. This read is based on VIBES and LOW CONFIDENCE

sometimes gut reads and vibes are rights
also confidence grows at the game progresses more news @ 11

Originally Posted by roundbox

which is followed by a vote, even though Tokzic's play was worthy of complaint earlier

I made ONE post that pointed out ONE thing about Tokzic. Why would I vote for him over someone I had at least something of a feeling about, even if I couldn't quite describe it?

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by roundbox

ok

what about my other points

im getting to em hold your horses geez

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

If you're town, you should have expected that you would need some sort of independant play/logic eventually.

Sheeping me forever just doesn't cut it.

Listen Haku I love you and we need to stick together in this game but

I'm not fucking sheeping you

I am confident in my self damnit. Is that not incredibly obvious at this point?!?!?!?

[YoshL]

[Wineandbread]

The rb post made me reconsider the viability of yoshl/mellon for sure

@rb who would you guess would be the last wolf in that team?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Listen Haku I love you and we need to stick together in this game but

I'm not fucking sheeping you

I am confident in my self damnit. Is that not incredibly obvious at this point?!?!?!?

They need to see that somehow.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Wineandbread

The rb post made me reconsider the viability of yoshl/mellon for sure

@rb who would you guess would be the last wolf in that team?

I've been thinking about this a bit

I'm REALLY confident that Charu is a human
I have very good confidence that Haku is human too
I still like sunfan
Your slot is pure as well

this leaves Lito/Freezin, which I guess would fit in with my analysis that we have a deepwolf
in the bizarro world that raeko flips town when we lynch her, this is obviously going to be thrown out the window

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Listen Haku I love you and we need to stick together in this game but

I'm not fucking sheeping you

I am confident in my self damnit. Is that not incredibly obvious at this point?!?!?!?

I'll rephrase for you. Why are you so confident?

[FreezinIce]

You think my plan is bad. That's fine

I already explained the advantages

Could you explain the disadvantages or the problem you have with it?

[YoshL]

meanwhile, i'm gonna be doing more commentary tonight for SOFT, the springtime osumania free for all tournament!

[FreezinIce]

YoshL the fact you clashed with me and picked apart everything I said day 0 makes the fact you've checked out and are just trolling that much more infuriating

At least haku is trying, your worse than him atm

[FreezinIce]

So don't get angry when I call you bad from now on, because if you do I'll just link this game

[Wineandbread]

Originally Posted by YoshL

meanwhile, i'm gonna be doing more commentary tonight for SOFT, the springtime osumania free for all tournament!

gl fam
(you're still wolfy tho :<)

I'm gonna wait until mellon finishes her response against rb, and decide if I want to switch votes.

@rb I think that makes sense aside from my reservations with sunfan.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by roundbox

As from D0, we can see that her initial suspicion onto sunfan was based off of gutreading and a bad "vibe." We also saw some slight shade thrown on Tokzic, but she favored killing thesunfan over him because gut?
I can see her letting Tokzic live if she's a wolf in this case, pocket reasons.

I almost always try to not get Tokzic killed in the first day because he is my friend and I like playing with him. This isn't exactly always the most mechanically correct move, but that's how it is

Originally Posted by roundbox

I feel like if you actually thought he was softing, you wouldn't acknowledge it as a complaint if you were town. I feel like a town would be a bit willing to go easy on what they perceived as softs because they don't want them to die in the night. Also note that this is after the flip and this is her spin on the situation. OK, if you insist.

Again you're looking WAY too far into my "complaint" wording. I could have just as easily said "point" there. Subtly acknowledging softs does not make you a wolf, and anyway what's your point with this exactly??

Originally Posted by roundbox

Here is the evidence she has against sunfan. Let's break it down. Nothing particularly stood out to her. Ok, so it's purely just the VIBE that's still there. She also states that she's wary of his overconfidence as well as the fact he's not suspicious of raeko based on his lack of reaction against her. I believe this is her way of interpreting sunfan's response of "I've heard this [vote against me] from at least 6 other people today, this isn't really a surprise" in reaction to her vote against him.

Suspicious because of pocket.

I did ISO sunfan and I came to the conclusion that I couldn't find anything in there to really help my case (and his ISO was already hundreds of posts long at that point). Sunfan is a skilled TWG player and he's not going to just leave little evidence nuggets all over for me to find. The ~vibes~ are enough sometimes believe it or not and in this case, they are

Originally Posted by roundbox

sunfan responded to this previous post and here is her reaction to it. The response of "I guess I see what you are saying" kinda rings as "okay that's not how I'd see things but maybe it's not as bad as I thought." Maybe a slight degradation in suspicion, but nope

It's more of a "I get the point you're making" and has nothing to do with how I view the point itself, or whether it changed my view of sunfan.

Originally Posted by roundbox

Here is her response to other possible scumreads. She's suspicious of YoshL (noted for LATER), indheart, and myself. Noted.

Lol I literally said "I'd like to hear him out today" that does not mean I find you suspicious, it means I wanted you to get in the thread so I could refine my reads

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'll rephrase for you. Why are you so confident?

Because I GOTTA BELIEVE

meh it's mostly just because I'm bored of always losing by second guessing myself, and I'm seeing how that is going to play out this game

[Hakulyte]

I mean, even if I defended you, that won't convince roundbox to swap votes and do a superb reversal.

I'm just like "lol, we're doomed again".

[YoshL]

you see, the difference is that i'm not trying to claim that what i'm doing isn't shit tier.

congratulations though, good job pointing out that i'm not contributing, it's not like i was trying to do anything productive by posting gifs and random images in thread, wow!

tbh it's half because i could care less about this game anymore, and it's also half because
noone, except for wabby so far has done anything to prod or even forward any scum read on me. Shit like that where you're like "you're infuriating" makes you just as good as me insulting haku like a madman (which i'm sorry about, a lot of what i've said earlier in this game was shit, blah blah life blah blah not worth going into)

anyways, wabby doesn't actually count for much because his slot is essentially on lock at this point. roundbox mentioned me in his big post, but only as a consequence if raeko flips red, and I don't mind crossing that bridge when we get there.

you on the other hand, i'm seriously happy that you pointed out that i'm not doing anything right now! it's almost as if you're not trying to develop any read on what i've done previously, and are just focused on calling me bad! wow!

[AragakiAyase]

Votes from post 3090 to post 4238
Night in 2:54:59
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- mellonxcollie -- YoshL (37), roundbox (63), thesunfan (111)
• 2 -- thesunfan -- FreezinIce (143), mellonxcollie (69)
• 2 -- Charu -- Charu (180), Litodude (139)
• 1 -- YoshL -- Wineandbread (21)
• 1 -- unvote -- Hakulyte (383)

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

I'm bored of always losing by second guessing myself, and I'm seeing how that is going to play out this game

i can respect this nd i think u said it before 2