TWG XXIII Host Signups - Mead host - Page 3

11-1-2005, 07:44 AM

Blah, I'll switch to you once the story-writer posts in this thread confirming that they'll write a good story, and put effort into it.

I like Blah and LD's game ideas the best, I just feel I have to make a point. Hosts today feel like story doesn't matter.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-1-2005, 07:52 AM

Talisman: the Lone Green CAN come out on day 1, but will obviously be at risk... also, no one but the guardian can fake a long green, as everyone else has a partner (4 wolves, 2 teams of 2)... so, should the green come out, he'll get the guardian with him... giving the guardian +lone green a 2-person alliance also... and then they lone green will also know each group of 2 players. Problem? THERE IS NO PSYCHIC. So, there is no way to figure out WHICH 2 groups out of the 7 are in fact wolves.

That is why I suggested the lone wolf be a psychic... it eliminates the lone green, seperates the psychic and the guardian from each other... but provides more intrigue. Also, it would be easier for the wolves to fake a psychic or guardian.

Also, cardflipping? obviously a no with a psychic, but without? yes/no. Could use an answer.

**Chromer** · 11-1-2005, 09:24 AM

Well since I can't vote, can I still join in the game? I swear this time I'll be active. I have APCS in school. I'm usually here most of the class.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-1-2005, 09:41 AM

Chromer: If your only time to play all game will be in the middle of 1 class during school, then highly doubtful. If you will be on after school, on AIM at nights, discussing strategy/suspicions, posting multiple times per real day... then yes, you'll most likely be given the opportunity to play.

But, its better for you to be honest... should you say you'll do all that, and then NOT... well, 2nd chances are hard to come by.

blahblah18 · 11-1-2005, 10:48 AM

is everyone ignoring the 4 wolves / 16 players thing?

**lightdarkness** · 11-1-2005, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blahblah18

is everyone ignoring the 4 wolves / 16 players thing?

masons balance that

**talisman** · 11-1-2005, 11:14 AM

right tass... but making him the psychic is even worse... now he comes out as the psychic, gets guarded, knows the teams AND knows if a wolf dies who another wolf is.

In fact adding cardflipping would totally unbalance the game towards the humans... now all the mason teams just come out on day one, forcing the wolves to come out as well, someone gets lynched, they turn up wolf, boom there's the next day's lynch.

Blah, I agree that 4 wolves seems like a bit much, but with 3 the wolves are dicked if everyone decides to come out. One of them will be forced into the position of claiming to be the lone green. And with the lone green not really caring if he gets lynched this means a guaranteed wolf lynching.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-1-2005, 12:58 PM

Also, the problem with the lone green coming out.... it reveals the guardian. because if everyone else gets revealed via the lone green, or via the thread... guardian is FUBAR.

Perhaps match the guardian with the lone green, that way EVERYONE is in a group of 2... and if EVERYONE comes out in their pair of 2, the guardian can't be found.

**FishFishRevolution** · 11-1-2005, 01:15 PM

Yeah, but don't tell the guardian's partner that their partner is the guardian.

**Kilgamayan** · 11-1-2005, 01:20 PM

The guardian could just tell them themselves.

**FishFishRevolution** · 11-1-2005, 01:28 PM

Oh right, I keep forgetting you know your partner's not a wolf >.<

Afrobean · 11-1-2005, 01:34 PM

Oh hay Afrobean is cool lolz.

mead1 · 11-1-2005, 01:36 PM

Ok, well after discussing with Tass, I have decided on days 3, 5, and 7, the thread will be told how many wolves are left. Hopefully this will satisfy the rest of you.

JurseyRider734 · 11-1-2005, 02:12 PM

>_>

Start signups before my play starts. I won't be on the computer at all most likely on Thursday and Friday. I'm going out after our shows.

**talisman** · 11-1-2005, 02:26 PM

Well IF the lone green comes out then no one else should come out and no public knowledge of the teams should be provided. then all the wolves know is someone who the guardian isn't.

But the guardian getting messed up is a good reason for everyone to not come out with their partners. so.... if mead's game wins (as it seems like it has) then everyone, don't come out day one.

**Tasselfoot** · 11-1-2005, 02:31 PM

unless the solo green gets paired with the guardian, in which case everyone has a partner.

**talisman** · 11-1-2005, 03:27 PM

right... so that should probably happen, I guess.

that instant guardian mini alliance + the 3 5 7 autopsychic thing SHOULD balance out the 4 wolves. hopefully.

aight let's go.

**Chromer** · 11-1-2005, 04:29 PM

Do you hear that Tassel? Its the sound of my AIM beeping and my keyboard typing out this message. I'll be here multiple times. Believe it. (Damn Naruto Qoute!)

**Tasselfoot** · 11-1-2005, 04:40 PM

OK dude. I'm willing to give you the shot... and from that, will almost certainly get TWC to play along as well.

eyespewgreekfire · 11-1-2005, 04:52 PM

Blah has a very balenced looking game. The flaws with mead's game really could make it a problem. I really don't see how so many groups of 2 are going to be especially useful if the wolves act in groups of two as well. If the wolves kill randomly, there is no real way to find out who they are. There is definatly a breaking strategy from the wolf point of view.

11-1-2005, 07:44 AM	#41
User6773 Guest Posts: n/a	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Blah, I'll switch to you once the story-writer posts in this thread confirming that they'll write a good story, and put effort into it. I like Blah and LD's game ideas the best, I just feel I have to make a point. Hosts today feel like story doesn't matter.

11-1-2005, 07:52 AM	#42
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Talisman: the Lone Green CAN come out on day 1, but will obviously be at risk... also, no one but the guardian can fake a long green, as everyone else has a partner (4 wolves, 2 teams of 2)... so, should the green come out, he'll get the guardian with him... giving the guardian +lone green a 2-person alliance also... and then they lone green will also know each group of 2 players. Problem? THERE IS NO PSYCHIC. So, there is no way to figure out WHICH 2 groups out of the 7 are in fact wolves. That is why I suggested the lone wolf be a psychic... it eliminates the lone green, seperates the psychic and the guardian from each other... but provides more intrigue. Also, it would be easier for the wolves to fake a psychic or guardian. Also, cardflipping? obviously a no with a psychic, but without? yes/no. Could use an answer. __________________ RIP

11-1-2005, 09:24 AM	#43
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 34 Posts: 4,981	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Well since I can't vote, can I still join in the game? I swear this time I'll be active. I have APCS in school. I'm usually here most of the class. __________________

11-1-2005, 09:41 AM	#44
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Chromer: If your only time to play all game will be in the middle of 1 class during school, then highly doubtful. If you will be on after school, on AIM at nights, discussing strategy/suspicions, posting multiple times per real day... then yes, you'll most likely be given the opportunity to play. But, its better for you to be honest... should you say you'll do all that, and then NOT... well, 2nd chances are hard to come by. __________________ RIP

11-1-2005, 10:48 AM	#45
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting is everyone ignoring the 4 wolves / 16 players thing? __________________ but for now... postCount++

11-1-2005, 11:14 AM	#47
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting right tass... but making him the psychic is even worse... now he comes out as the psychic, gets guarded, knows the teams AND knows if a wolf dies who another wolf is. In fact adding cardflipping would totally unbalance the game towards the humans... now all the mason teams just come out on day one, forcing the wolves to come out as well, someone gets lynched, they turn up wolf, boom there's the next day's lynch. Blah, I agree that 4 wolves seems like a bit much, but with 3 the wolves are dicked if everyone decides to come out. One of them will be forced into the position of claiming to be the lone green. And with the lone green not really caring if he gets lynched this means a guaranteed wolf lynching.

11-1-2005, 12:58 PM	#48
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Also, the problem with the lone green coming out.... it reveals the guardian. because if everyone else gets revealed via the lone green, or via the thread... guardian is FUBAR. Perhaps match the guardian with the lone green, that way EVERYONE is in a group of 2... and if EVERYONE comes out in their pair of 2, the guardian can't be found. __________________ RIP

11-1-2005, 01:15 PM	#49
FishFishRevolution GotR Creator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vi sitter här i venten Current Band: The National Age: 36 Posts: 7,251	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Yeah, but don't tell the guardian's partner that their partner is the guardian. __________________

11-1-2005, 01:20 PM	#50
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting The guardian could just tell them themselves. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

11-1-2005, 01:28 PM	#51
FishFishRevolution GotR Creator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vi sitter här i venten Current Band: The National Age: 36 Posts: 7,251	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Oh right, I keep forgetting you know your partner's not a wolf >.< __________________

11-1-2005, 01:34 PM	#52
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Oh hay Afrobean is cool lolz. __________________

11-1-2005, 01:36 PM	#53
mead1 Cerebellumberjack Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On a boat Age: 33 Posts: 3,960	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Ok, well after discussing with Tass, I have decided on days 3, 5, and 7, the thread will be told how many wolves are left. Hopefully this will satisfy the rest of you.

11-1-2005, 02:26 PM	#55
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Well IF the lone green comes out then no one else should come out and no public knowledge of the teams should be provided. then all the wolves know is someone who the guardian isn't. But the guardian getting messed up is a good reason for everyone to not come out with their partners. so.... if mead's game wins (as it seems like it has) then everyone, don't come out day one.

11-1-2005, 02:31 PM	#56
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting unless the solo green gets paired with the guardian, in which case everyone has a partner. __________________ RIP

11-1-2005, 03:27 PM	#57
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting right... so that should probably happen, I guess. that instant guardian mini alliance + the 3 5 7 autopsychic thing SHOULD balance out the 4 wolves. hopefully. aight let's go.

11-1-2005, 04:29 PM	#58
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 34 Posts: 4,981	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Do you hear that Tassel? Its the sound of my AIM beeping and my keyboard typing out this message. I'll be here multiple times. Believe it. (Damn Naruto Qoute!) __________________

11-1-2005, 04:40 PM	#59
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting OK dude. I'm willing to give you the shot... and from that, will almost certainly get TWC to play along as well. __________________ RIP

11-1-2005, 04:52 PM	#60
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	RE: TWG XXIII Host Signups - Voting Blah has a very balenced looking game. The flaws with mead's game really could make it a problem. I really don't see how so many groups of 2 are going to be especially useful if the wolves act in groups of two as well. If the wolves kill randomly, there is no real way to find out who they are. There is definatly a breaking strategy from the wolf point of view. __________________

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