TWG XII - Velyssis Victory! - Page 9

eyespewgreekfire · 03-15-2005, 08:04 AM

Also, as I said before, if youre a speical role PLEASE TELL ME! I still need to hear from the seer, if he exists.

**lightdarkness** · 03-15-2005, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nforcer06164

OK, guys, this is disgusting. You've had more than 14 hours to say something after my post, and many of you were able to, yet there has been no discussion. No discussion is just slowly giving the wolves a win. I have to give some credit to Alain for a least putting up the vote history, because that at least gave me something to say.

I'm going to vote LD for now. I think this subtle voting pattern may be a double-reverse psychology stunt he's trying to pull.

Narrator, there's no time for the day's end. We don't know when our votes will be final.

You're really trying to save yourself now, aren't you?

Yesterday, nforcer IM'd me, and I got the impression that he was trying to contact a fellow wolf, to dicuss the fact they were guarded. I will post the convo when I get home for further review. It could just be me, but I got a werid feeling from it.

**Tasselfoot** · 03-15-2005, 08:27 AM

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Yesterday, nforcer IM'd me, and I got the impression that he was trying to contact a fellow wolf, to dicuss the fact they were guarded. I will post the convo when I get home for further review. It could just be me, but I got a werid feeling from it.

So... him contacting you is him contacting a fellow wolf? Nice subtle way on implicating nforcer along with yourself.............

eyespewgreekfire · 03-15-2005, 08:30 AM

Tass, I think what LD means is that nforcer IMed LD thinking LD was a fellow wolf, thinking it was someone other than LD.

**lightdarkness** · 03-15-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by eyespewgreekfire

Tass, I think what LD means is that nforcer IMed LD thinking LD was a fellow wolf, thinking it was someone other than LD.

Indeed, i.e. a wrong IM. Tried to click on someone elses name.

**Tasselfoot** · 03-15-2005, 09:53 AM

Well wouldn't that be a huge f*ck up on his part. I'm now quite interested to see this.

All of this tells me 1 thing.... Either nForcer is a wolf, or LD is a wolf framing nForcer. I talked with nForcer alot last night... didn't get a big wolf vibe, although he was very curious about finding out what eyespew know. Could go either way. I'm still more worried about LD. Every single thing this game keeps either going to him or through him.

**lightdarkness** · 03-15-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

Well wouldn't that be a huge f*ck up on his part. I'm now quite interested to see this.

All of this tells me 1 thing.... Either nForcer is a wolf, or LD is a wolf framing nForcer. I talked with nForcer alot last night... didn't get a big wolf vibe, although he was very curious about finding out what eyespew know. Could go either way. I'm still more worried about LD. Every single thing this game keeps either going to him or through him.

I'm not trying to frame him, i'm just saying I have something of interest, that struck me as odd.

**Tasselfoot** · 03-15-2005, 10:40 AM

I understand that Jay.... and yes, I'm sure it is interesting. At the same time, you COULD be trying to frame him. Please stop ignoring the obvious possibilities. Its annoying me. Also, there are 2 possibilities with your statements.

1. You honestly are thinking that you could only be telling the truth, and not see the lying possibility
2. You're trying to make us THINK #1 is true.

No idea which it is, but regardless, please make sure to consider every possibility, even ones you don't intend, because people like me will see meanings in your statements that are possibilities, even if they aren't true.... Like on day 1 with the "seer me" comment.

Think Jay...

**lightdarkness** · 03-15-2005, 12:04 PM

Isn't that the same thing? Let me make it a bit clearer

I'm not trying to convince anyone that what I have is what I think. I'm saying that me, LD, found it odd, and I am going to share it with you guys.

I'm not trying to put any votes on him (yet), because I need others opinions, maybe I have nothing, maybe I have everything. I'm just trying to spark some conversation, which obviously i've done.

nforcer06164 · 03-15-2005, 01:02 PM

I know what LD is talking about... and he said something in the IM to me. He said something like, "Whoops, wrong IM. Am I rite?" I thought he was referring to something he had said, so I responded, "I guess so."

Everything that I said to him, I meant to say to him, not somebody else. It did not occur to me that he was asking me if I was in the wrong IM myself. I thought he was saying something to me that he meant to tell someone else. I didn't save the convo, either (I rarely save them, especially if they seem irrelevant), so I won't be surprised if he alters it beforehand.

**lightdarkness** · 03-15-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nforcer06164

I didn't save the convo, either (I rarely save them, especially if they seem irrelevant), so I won't be surprised if he alters it beforehand.

That comment right there is something of interest also.

Anyways, people can do what they want. This is the unedited convo, with timestamps so you can see the dramatic pauses. Another thing to mention, is that nforcer and I have never talked about TWG in the past.

nforcer06164(7:47:28): hey
Jay(7:47:26): Hey
nforcer06164(7:47:44): crazy, eh?
Jay(7:47:50): crazy what?
nforcer06164(7:47:56): the guard
Jay(7:48:02): It's awesome

Jay(7:49:18): You just screwed yourself, didn't you
Jay(7:50:01): lol
Jay(7:51:25): Wrong IM, am I rite?
nforcer06164(7:51:25): I hope so

JurseyRider734 · 03-15-2005, 01:37 PM

I don't have a lot of time at all because I have to leave in about 5 minutes for dress rehearsal, but with the convo LD just posted, assuming it is unaltered, could seem sketchy on both sides. nforcer's comment about the "crazy, eh? the guard" seems a little weird, and LD has a point that it would be something to say to a fellow wolf, but it's kind of vague and you can go either way with it. I've been talking with someone about the suspicions, and he and I both agree that alain has been acting really oddly, and little things keep popping up. I'll leave it to him to describe because I have to leave like RIGHT NOW, but if I get home before voting time is up i'll try to put more input in, but i REALLY REALLY have to go now.

ImEric12 · 03-15-2005, 01:47 PM

He said the same thing to me.. I'll paste it after I'm done watching Mai HiME.

mead1 · 03-15-2005, 01:51 PM

LD, that isn't incriminating at all. Seriously, who didn't find it weird that eyespew was the one gaurded, and the one targeted. It doesn't happen that often. I honestly don't see how that makes him a wolf. I think that LD is grasping for straws to save himself.

evilbutterfly · 03-15-2005, 01:56 PM

LD, why is that suspicious? Seriously, man. He was just making conversation XD

eyespewgreekfire · 03-15-2005, 01:57 PM

added more to the convo at the bottom, so this is a useless double post

eyespewgreekfire · 03-15-2005, 01:58 PM

eyespewgreekfire: when did you tell *** of your paln?
evilbutterfly87: yesterday (in TWG days)
evilbutterfly87: ...i think
eyespewgreekfire: any specific time?
eyespewgreekfire: remember?
evilbutterfly87: it was before nighttime, i know
eyespewgreekfire: in real days
eyespewgreekfire: any idea?
evilbutterfly87: i have terrible sense of time :-\
eyespewgreekfire: i dont buy it
eyespewgreekfire: i think youre doing this to undermine ***
eyespewgreekfire: was it yesterday you told him?
eyespewgreekfire: sunday?
eyespewgreekfire: saturday?
evilbutterfly87: what's today? monday?
eyespewgreekfire: tuesday
evilbutterfly87: damn, um...
evilbutterfly87: man, i really dont know what day it was
evilbutterfly87: but how why would i be doing this to undermine ***?
eyespewgreekfire: i dont know
evilbutterfly87: how else would i have known it was him?
evilbutterfly87: and that he told you the night before
eyespewgreekfire: im trying to see if he told me he was guardian or you told him this plan first
eyespewgreekfire: he says he told me first
eyespewgreekfire: and btw
eyespewgreekfire: if *** gets wolfed
eyespewgreekfire: youre going down
evilbutterfly87: btw what?
eyespewgreekfire: eyespewgreekfire: if *** gets wolfed
eyespewgreekfire: youre going down
eyespewgreekfire: btw that
evilbutterfly87: haha
evilbutterfly87: if i was a wolf
evilbutterfly87: i would kill you

eyespewgreekfire: would you?
evilbutterfly87: yeah, i'd attack you tonight
evilbutterfly87: because "nobody would ever do that!"
eyespewgreekfire: wouldnt i think of that too?
evilbutterfly87: but it's never happened, people dont expect it, and the guardian wouldnt save you
eyespewgreekfire: i guess
eyespewgreekfire: to tell you the truth ive gone through 3 to 4 levels of reverse psych about that idea
eyespewgreekfire: not sure which way to swing
eyespewgreekfire: but as i said before
eyespewgreekfire: if i get wolfed
eyespewgreekfire: you DIE
evilbutterfly87: if i was a wolf
evilbutterfly87: i wouldnt tell you what i would do if i was wolf
evilbutterfly87: or i would say i'd do one thing and do the opposite
evilbutterfly87: well, if you've heard from the seer
evilbutterfly87: have him seer alain
evilbutterfly87: i would say to seer me, but seering him would possibly save the guardian
evilbutterfly87: today i think LD is just asking for it

I think thats plenty of reasoning. The plan I am speaking of is a fake guardian ploy he made up. He said that if a wolf tells someone theyre guardian and guarding him, then if theyre guarded, its awesome for the wolves, and if not, theyre dead so it doesnt matter. *** therefore seemed a bith fishy to me, but I think eb is now the fishy one.

**alainbryden** · 03-15-2005, 02:03 PM

I'm not really sure what to make of Jursey's post.

But I know that what nforcer did was actually an intention to talk about how great it was that the guarding worked.
LD, for some reason, decided that it was weird for someone to do this and said "you just screwed yourself over didn't you." followed by "wrong IM, am I rite?"
And then nforcer said "I hope so" because he thought LD had meant to say "you just screwed yourself over" to someone else.

Therefore, nforcer, I believe is completely clean.
LD may be too, but he is not exempt from any suspicion the way nforcer is so far.

For today I am voting evilbutterfly. Eyespew just showed me a conversation, which I'm sure he'll be posting soon, where evilbutterfly tricked him in to saying who the guardian is, then tried to cover by saying he's suspicious of that being a fake guardian.

So now, we can expect the guardian to die, tonight I guess, unless eb, for some dumb reason, was a human and did that. There is really no reason for a human to trick the known human into saying the name of the real guardian, by eb pretending he allready knew who it is. If this did infact get out to the wolves, then we'll need to quickly clean up the rest of the wolves, with no defenses in place anymore. And right now I'm thinking LD after eb, after that I'm not too sure. Not many people have proven their humanity yet, at least to me. Only nforcer and eyespew. The game is afoot.

**Tasselfoot** · 03-15-2005, 02:07 PM

I want this list... so I'm posting it.

Players in the game:

Eyespew
Tass
LD
Alain
Jurs
Mead
Eric
Hans
Kilga
nForcer
Afro
eb

**alainbryden** · 03-15-2005, 02:08 PM

eyespew says he didn't say save the conversation where he was tricked into revealing the seer, and above is the conversation he showed me, which I expected him to post after my post. Just to clear up confusion.

03-15-2005, 08:04 AM	#161
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	Also, as I said before, if youre a speical role PLEASE TELL ME! I still need to hear from the seer, if he exists. __________________

03-15-2005, 08:30 AM	#164
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	Tass, I think what LD means is that nforcer IMed LD thinking LD was a fellow wolf, thinking it was someone other than LD. __________________

03-15-2005, 09:53 AM	#166
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Well wouldn't that be a huge f*ck up on his part. I'm now quite interested to see this. All of this tells me 1 thing.... Either nForcer is a wolf, or LD is a wolf framing nForcer. I talked with nForcer alot last night... didn't get a big wolf vibe, although he was very curious about finding out what eyespew know. Could go either way. I'm still more worried about LD. Every single thing this game keeps either going to him or through him. __________________ RIP

03-15-2005, 10:40 AM	#168
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	I understand that Jay.... and yes, I'm sure it is interesting. At the same time, you COULD be trying to frame him. Please stop ignoring the obvious possibilities. Its annoying me. Also, there are 2 possibilities with your statements. 1. You honestly are thinking that you could only be telling the truth, and not see the lying possibility 2. You're trying to make us THINK #1 is true. No idea which it is, but regardless, please make sure to consider every possibility, even ones you don't intend, because people like me will see meanings in your statements that are possibilities, even if they aren't true.... Like on day 1 with the "seer me" comment. Think Jay... __________________ RIP

03-15-2005, 12:04 PM	#169
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	Isn't that the same thing? Let me make it a bit clearer I'm not trying to convince anyone that what I have is what I think. I'm saying that me, LD, found it odd, and I am going to share it with you guys. I'm not trying to put any votes on him (yet), because I need others opinions, maybe I have nothing, maybe I have everything. I'm just trying to spark some conversation, which obviously i've done. __________________

03-15-2005, 01:47 PM	#173
ImEric12 FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Next to Hooker Land. :o Posts: 1,952	He said the same thing to me.. I'll paste it after I'm done watching Mai HiME. __________________

03-15-2005, 01:51 PM	#174
mead1 Cerebellumberjack Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: On a boat Age: 33 Posts: 3,960	LD, that isn't incriminating at all. Seriously, who didn't find it weird that eyespew was the one gaurded, and the one targeted. It doesn't happen that often. I honestly don't see how that makes him a wolf. I think that LD is grasping for straws to save himself.

03-15-2005, 01:56 PM	#175
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 37 Posts: 5,784	LD, why is that suspicious? Seriously, man. He was just making conversation XD __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

03-15-2005, 01:57 PM	#176
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	added more to the convo at the bottom, so this is a useless double post __________________

03-15-2005, 01:58 PM	#177
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	eyespewgreekfire: when did you tell * of your paln? evilbutterfly87: yesterday (in TWG days) evilbutterfly87: ...i think eyespewgreekfire: any specific time? eyespewgreekfire: remember? evilbutterfly87: it was before nighttime, i know eyespewgreekfire: in real days eyespewgreekfire: any idea? evilbutterfly87: i have terrible sense of time :-\ eyespewgreekfire: i dont buy it eyespewgreekfire: i think youre doing this to undermine * eyespewgreekfire: was it yesterday you told him? eyespewgreekfire: sunday? eyespewgreekfire: saturday? evilbutterfly87: what's today? monday? eyespewgreekfire: tuesday evilbutterfly87: damn, um... evilbutterfly87: man, i really dont know what day it was evilbutterfly87: but how why would i be doing this to undermine *? eyespewgreekfire: i dont know evilbutterfly87: how else would i have known it was him? evilbutterfly87: and that he told you the night before eyespewgreekfire: im trying to see if he told me he was guardian or you told him this plan first eyespewgreekfire: he says he told me first eyespewgreekfire: and btw eyespewgreekfire: if * gets wolfed eyespewgreekfire: youre going down evilbutterfly87: btw what? eyespewgreekfire: eyespewgreekfire: if * gets wolfed eyespewgreekfire: youre going down eyespewgreekfire: btw that evilbutterfly87: haha evilbutterfly87: if i was a wolf evilbutterfly87: i would kill you eyespewgreekfire: would you? evilbutterfly87: yeah, i'd attack you tonight evilbutterfly87: because "nobody would ever do that!" eyespewgreekfire: wouldnt i think of that too? evilbutterfly87: but it's never happened, people dont expect it, and the guardian wouldnt save you eyespewgreekfire: i guess eyespewgreekfire: to tell you the truth ive gone through 3 to 4 levels of reverse psych about that idea eyespewgreekfire: not sure which way to swing eyespewgreekfire: but as i said before eyespewgreekfire: if i get wolfed eyespewgreekfire: you DIE evilbutterfly87: if i was a wolf evilbutterfly87: i wouldnt tell you what i would do if i was wolf evilbutterfly87: or i would say i'd do one thing and do the opposite evilbutterfly87: well, if you've heard from the seer evilbutterfly87: have him seer alain evilbutterfly87: i would say to seer me, but seering him would possibly save the guardian evilbutterfly87: today i think LD is just asking for it I think thats plenty of reasoning. The plan I am speaking of is a fake guardian ploy he made up. He said that if a wolf tells someone theyre guardian and guarding him, then if theyre guarded, its awesome for the wolves, and if not, theyre dead so it doesnt matter. * therefore seemed a bith fishy to me, but I think eb is now the fishy one. __________________

03-15-2005, 02:03 PM	#178
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	I'm not really sure what to make of Jursey's post. But I know that what nforcer did was actually an intention to talk about how great it was that the guarding worked. LD, for some reason, decided that it was weird for someone to do this and said "you just screwed yourself over didn't you." followed by "wrong IM, am I rite?" And then nforcer said "I hope so" because he thought LD had meant to say "you just screwed yourself over" to someone else. Therefore, nforcer, I believe is completely clean. LD may be too, but he is not exempt from any suspicion the way nforcer is so far. For today I am voting evilbutterfly. Eyespew just showed me a conversation, which I'm sure he'll be posting soon, where evilbutterfly tricked him in to saying who the guardian is, then tried to cover by saying he's suspicious of that being a fake guardian. So now, we can expect the guardian to die, tonight I guess, unless eb, for some dumb reason, was a human and did that. There is really no reason for a human to trick the known human into saying the name of the real guardian, by eb pretending he allready knew who it is. If this did infact get out to the wolves, then we'll need to quickly clean up the rest of the wolves, with no defenses in place anymore. And right now I'm thinking LD after eb, after that I'm not too sure. Not many people have proven their humanity yet, at least to me. Only nforcer and eyespew. The game is afoot. __________________ ~NEIGH

03-15-2005, 02:07 PM	#179
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	I want this list... so I'm posting it. Players in the game: Eyespew Tass LD Alain Jurs Mead Eric Hans Kilga nForcer Afro eb __________________ RIP

03-15-2005, 02:08 PM	#180
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	eyespew says he didn't say save the conversation where he was tricked into revealing the seer, and above is the conversation he showed me, which I expected him to post after my post. Just to clear up confusion. __________________ ~NEIGH

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