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Old 04-4-2018, 07:37 PM   #21
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Accuracy of -0.1111 means you're actually pretty bang on as it is. Changing the judge offset to +0.1 might make some tiny improvements.

Also, you'll note that the 5-0-0-1 you got on the song 20 minutes ago is currently your 3rd highest ranked song at a AAA equivalency of 15.19. This is what I mean about working on accuracy on easier songs being better than trying to just -pass- harder songs.

Spend some more time on 20s and low 30s, and your scores on 45s will get better than they will if you play 50s instead.

Alright so i should keep global offset 0 and have auto judge offset on?
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My usual rule of applying offset is "If the song felt like the arrows didn't match the music, or I got way more goods than I thought I should, check Accuracy, adjust accordingly, and play again" and it has a 100% success rate in the replay being a much better score.

You "Should" do whatever seems to work best for you. For me, making frequent adjustments to global offset works best, because I play to the music, not the chart, and when there's a mismatch between them, global is what fixes it. If you're finding the music matches the chart, you're just hitting a little early or late consistently due to lag or similar, judge offset will likely help with that.

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Old 04-4-2018, 07:44 PM   #23
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My usual rule of applying offset is "If the song felt like the arrows didn't match the music, or I got way more goods than I thought I should, check Accuracy, adjust accordingly, and play again" and it has a 100% success rate in the replay being a much better score.

You "Should" do whatever seems to work best for you. For me, making frequent adjustments to global offset works best, because I play to the music, not the chart, and when there's a mismatch between them, global is what fixes it. If you're finding the music matches the chart, you're just hitting a little early or late consistently due to lag or similar, judge offset will likely help with that.
thanks for the help, but you didn't say yes or no to my question about should i have auto judge offset on or not.....anyways, i thank everyone for the advice and will sure implement them.
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Well that was an interesting read. I would recommend just keeping this game on the back burner and playing something that you don't have to change the judge offset 24/7 to improve *cough* etterna *cough* (Although I spend all my time in osu mania, but im bad so take this advice with a grain of salt.)
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Well that was an interesting read. I would recommend just keeping this game on the back burner and playing something that you don't have to change the judge offset 24/7 to improve *cough* etterna *cough* (Although I spend all my time in osu mania, but im bad so take this advice with a grain of salt.)
haha thats an option, but ffr is close to my heart and probally going to keep playing along with my close other type games like ffr

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Well that was an interesting read. I would recommend just keeping this game on the back burner and playing something that you don't have to change the judge offset 24/7 to improve *cough* etterna *cough* (Although I spend all my time in osu mania, but im bad so take this advice with a grain of salt.)
FFR General Talk btw

I actually adjust my offsets in Etterna just as much as I do it here.
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Old 04-4-2018, 08:38 PM   #27
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The number one tip is just to play the game everyday for at least 2 hours and never take more then 3 days off in a row. Everything else should come natural after awhile. But here's some generic/obvious tips that maybe you haven't thought of.

Use mechanical keyboard.
Use decent pair of headphones.
Find what scroll speed is easiest for you to read dense patterns.
Play around with different noteskins.
Play around with screen cut.
Find out if you're hitting too early or too late by using the right click method. Then adjust your judge settings accordingly.
Just leave the global at 0 unless the song is way way off.
Try flash player 9. It has the fasting input recognition imo.
Learn how to cheat patterns to save stamina
Watch high d6/d7 people play on twitch.
Keep your fingernails clipped short.
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Learn how to cheat patterns to save stamina
What? How?
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What? How?
this is prob iffy advice but...
just move your fingers in a way that doesn't get goods... like slur the notes together.
If it's a fast one hand trill for instance, use jumps but hit them staggered. During a fast 1234 wall, you can often get away with jumping (1,2) (3,4) back and forth (hisugi/skeletor ect). Just basically find a way to hit the pattern even if your key presses sound horrible and then remember that feeling on ur fingers.

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good advice, but advanced technique. Learning to cheat patterns is a pretty necessary skill, but not until you start getting into stuff that's too dense to hit normally
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Try flash player 9. It has the fasting input recognition imo.
How? Chrome auto downloads and update my adobe flash player?
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How? Chrome auto downloads and update my adobe flash player?
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Old 04-4-2018, 10:47 PM   #34
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This is more mindset rather than physical stuff, and you probabaly are still at the point where you can just mindlessly play without specific focus and still improve (e.g. play more), that being said,

My tip is to set goals for yourself, that you actually want to achieve, that way it's more motivating to improve and accomplish them (things like getting a good score on a song you like that's too hard, for example)

A big mistake of mine recently is that I forgot to just have fun and to play hard songs I liked, I was way too focused on "gotta get that d7 score, gotta level up etc" that I forgot what was really enjoyable in the first place.

Gonna ramble for a sec, there's basically two aspects to this game, raw physical speed, and reading. Say you just trill on your desk as fast as you can, you can probably do it far faster than when you are playing - the only reason for this is your reading, you don't know how to convert what you see to muscle memory, etc etc, and to improve this, play more. A completely different thing is actual physical speed, e.g. how fast you can wrist jack, how fast you can maintain a long one hand trill etc, which is also just improved by playing more.

Basically what I'm trying to say ^ is if you really want to improve, you need to identify what is holding you back, if it's just reading or raw speed, and work to improve that by playing files to practice it that challenge you etc. This is part of the reason why stepmania is good (and the air engine now), because you can use rates to push your speed on files, without it being different to read and such.

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Old 04-4-2018, 11:19 PM   #35
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One thing that might be interesting, I doubt you have as little of a life as I do to the read the whole thing, but one of the best arrow game players wrote like, a huuuuge essay on improvement, skillsets, difficulty etc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...5zetB3nmQ/edit

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the power to improve comes from within! you have to believe in yourself!

also play a lot because it's fun-and you want to improve. if you play a lot just because you want to improve it may become frustrating
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I tired 55 and it was to choppy, went to 60 and it solved that issue....Just trying to figure out my global offset and trying to determine if auto judge offset helps or makes it worst having a hard time telling?
Ah nice. Its the exact opposite for me. I tried 60 and was so choppy i got goods left and right. Went to 55 and now its pretty much flawless. So i assume 60 works better than 144 then?
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Alright so i should keep global offset 0 and have auto judge offset on?
auto judge offset literally does what all those judge offset guides tell you to do - it just takes whatever number appears when you right click your scroll speed (on the results screen), and it sets that as the judge offset lol, thats what people just tell you to do anyways, if you were to like, read YoshL's guide

The optimal way to use auto judge offset:

1. pick a song thats easy to acc and stuff that you can read and hit well

2. turn on auto judge offset and do that

3. it sets your offset for you by saving you 3 seconds

4. woaw turn off the auto judge offset now and your offset stays!!


it doesnt change ingame or any crazy stuff, it just makes a step easier.. it should disable after it sets your offset tbh, but whatevs

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thinking about how to get gud is 2 hard
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auto judge offset literally does what all those judge offset guides tell you to do - it just takes whatever number appears when you right click your scroll speed (on the results screen), and it sets that as the judge offset lol, thats what people just tell you to do anyways, if you were to like, read YoshL's guide

The optimal way to use auto judge offset:

1. pick a song thats easy to acc and stuff that you can read and hit well

2. turn on auto judge offset and do that

3. it sets your offset for you by saving you 3 seconds

4. woaw turn off the auto judge offset now and your offset stays!!


it doesnt change ingame or any crazy stuff, it just makes a step easier.. it should disable after it sets your offset tbh, but whatevs

O, The have i been doing it wrong then?

I have auto judge offset on all the time and once i AAA a song i right click the scroll speed and then enter the result as my global offset as an example....

one song i rememer my scoll speed was 0.5 so i entered -0.5 in global offset while still keeping auto judge offset on?
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