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Default Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

Please do NOT post your Tier points in this thread. Post them in this thread instead.

[Introduction]
Hello FFR Members! Welcome to the improved FFR ranking system for the top active players. We are currently working on the Tier Point system and we appreciate any suggestions and ideas you have. Thanks!

Goal: The goal of the Tier Point system is to make a fair ranking of a player's overall ability to PA different types of files. We will make all of the decisions about how this system will be to reflect this goal. Our secondary goals are to encourage people to play files and improve their skill, and to be able to rank people of all skill levels from PAing 7s and 8s all the way up to SDGing 13s.

The new Tier point system will work like this:
First, each song will start with a 1-point requirement of simply passing the song. This is pretty easy, but we really just want to encourage people to play lots of different charts, even ones they might not be able to get good scores on. Note that the requirements for each given number of points will not be equally hard - this is intentional (see the FAQ).

Then, each song will start with a 2-point requirement of an FC with very low PA - if you don't have enough skill to hit a song well, you shouldn't expect to get many points from it. From there, the requirements will gradually require better and better PA, until the highest requirement for a song is a AAA or blackflag. In general, songs that are harder to PA will have more requirements, and thus will be worth more points. Short and technically simple songs will generally go up to the AAA; long and technically complex songs (lots of color notes and bursts) will only go up to a blackflag.

The distribution of your points will be different here than in the old system. Before, you would expect to have about the same number of points on each song, with your best scores getting more points (e.g. you might have a lot of 2/x scores, and a handful of 3/x). With this system you will have full points on the songs that are easy for you, some of the points on songs around your level, and only 1-2 points on songs that are too hard for you. This will give a better understanding of a player's abilities and skill level.

[FAQ] (Read this list before asking any questions)
Q: What are Tier Points?
A: Tier Points are points that you get for getting good scores on certain songs in FFR. The number of Tier Points you have shows how good of a player you are overall, just like your AAA count and average rank. You can check how many Tier Points you have by going here.

Q: Help! My Tier Points is NOT updating!
A: Try going to your level rank page - that should update it.

Q: Are you going to have multiple lists?
A: No, this tends to just segregate people, and we want to be able to compare everyone together.

Q: Wait, you're not going to keep the difficulty-level based requirements? Wasn't that a good system?
A: There were some good things about it, but it really encouraged mashing. Before the difficulties were all decreased, mash FCing a high FGO could give you as many as 5-6 points, which would give a masher a huge advantage over someone of the same skill who couldn't mash well. We wanted to get rid of this, so in the new system mashing a song can only get you one extra point.

Q: Why do the Tier Point requirements require FCing the song? Shouldn't they just be based on PA?
A: We'd actually love to do this, but combo scoring ruins it. The combo is so much more important than PA right now, so lots of people have mashed scores with good combo but bad PA, and they can't improve them without getting at least that much combo. So going based on the PA in your best score would be really unfair to those people, since they'd be getting fewer points than they deserve.

Q: Are you guys going to add bonuses?
A: We are not sure if we want to add bonuses or not yet, but if we do they will start from a low number of AAAs to give people an incentive to actually play the game. Starting from too high a number makes it seem too hard to get to.

Q: How many songs will be on the final list?
A: Probably about 150-200, but maybe less or more. We're willing to have as many songs as we need for a good TP list.

Q: How often will Tier Points be updated after this release?
A: About once a month.

[Credits]
Rebound (Byron) - Tier Point Leader
qqwref (Michael) - Tier Point Co-Leader and Coder
DossarLX (Roy) - Tier Point Co-Leader and FGO Requirement Leader
Sprite- (Dom) - Awesome person and he loves croûtons!
The FFR Community - We love you!

Comments? Suggestions? Complaints? Post them and I (or someone capable) will respond. Please do not hesitate to give feedback. We would love to hear from you!
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The Community Section

This is where everything community wise will be located. We really want to hear from you guys to see what you think about this system as we continue on through this project. Please do not be scared to ask us anything, we are human after all not gods!

To help us get started with this project, I would like you guys to go under "Community Downloads" to start downloading two files. One will be the outline file which will tell you what you need to do. The other one will be the list of songs that we want you to choose from. This will make things a lot easier for you and for us!

Once you have finished your outline, we would like you guys to PM it to WTF WRECKED since all the leaders have access to that account. We thank you in advance for supporting us! Please be sure to read everything before you post or get started with the project.


[Community Downloads]
Here is where you guys will get download links to things we provide you throughout this project! Please be sure to pay attention to this as we get further into this project. We will remind you whenever we add new links into this section! This will be divided into stages just to make things easier for us.
Deadline: Submissions are now CLOSED! If for some reason we do not get enough outlines, we will end up using the list that we have already made to fill in the songs that we think should go in Tier Points.

STAGE ONE (Selecting Tier Point Songs/Finalizing)
ACCOMPLISHED!

STAGE TWO (Tier Point Requirements/Finalizing)
ACCOMPLISHED!


[Community Suggestions]
This is where all of the community questions/suggestions will go. We will respond to each question/suggestion with our thoughts to them throughly. If you disagree with our thoughts then feel free to respond to this thread but be warned, if you respond with any inappropriate behavior then we will NOT respond back to you. We want this thread to be a healthy zone for others.

Suggestions
igotrhythm: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...29&postcount=7
Reply: We agree with you! That is definitely something we want to remove out of this system.

FFR community: REMOVE MARISA!
Reply: Your wish is our command!
Note: We will not respond to any more questions that has to do with the removal of songs. We as a community will handle that AFTER we compare the outlines and post the results.

FFR community: BASE TIER POINTS OFF RAW SCORING!
Reply: We disagreed at first until velocity said that we was going to make the scoreboard be based off raw scoring. Now we would LOVE to make Tier Points be based on Raw scoring.

rushyrulz: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...5&postcount=98
Reply: I'm sure 99% of the community wants this to happen so hopefully, the staff will listen.
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Finalized Song Requirement List (Difficult - Very Challenging)


1.Gameboy Rave! [422 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

2. Kyomu no Kareha no Tsumugiuta [570 Combo]
(5) - 1 good or better
(4) - 9 goods or better
(3) - 25 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

3. Get Ready 2 Rokk [1077 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 goods or better
(4) - 15 goods or better
(3) - 40 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

4. ReRicked [400 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

5. The Final Fantasy [670 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

6. Tetris Remix [546 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

7. World of Dreams [1056 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 goods or better
(4) - 15 goods or better
(3) - 40 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

8. Mario Eurobeat [375 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

9. Ninja Turtles Theme [325 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

10. Speed Limit 38 [705 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

11. Hiszekeny [641 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

12. Noir Remixed [554 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

13. FFR Evolution [765 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

14. Hungarian Dance #5 [563 Combo]
(5) - 1 good or better
(4) - 9 goods or better
(3) - 25 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

15. Platypus [412 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

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1. Harry Potter Techno Remix [607 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 4 goods or better
(3) - 15 goods or better
(2) - 60 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

2. Guitar Vs Piano [1010 Combo]
(5) - 1 or fewer
(4) - 9 goods or better
(3) - 40 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

3. Comptine D'un Autre Ete Techno Mix [904 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

4. {Red Alert} [496 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 4 goods or better
(3) - 15 goods or better
(2) - 60 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

5. Electro Rush x8 [787 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

6. {Firestorm} [1010 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 goods or better
(4) - 15 goods or better
(3) - 40 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

7. Coactive [805 Combo]
(5) - 1 or fewer
(4) - 9 or fewer
(3) - 30 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

8. J219 (Ura-Rokkou Mix) [866 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

9. Clockwork Genesis [825 Combo]
(5) - 1 or fewer
(4) - 9 goods or better
(3) - 40 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

10. Go Go Go Power Rangers [533 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 4 or fewer
(3) - 15 or fewer
(2) - 60 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

11. Troglodytic Epica [1482 Combo]
(5) - 1 or fewer
(4) - 9 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

12. 00.01 [709 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

13. GO! [1164 Combo]
(5) - 1 or fewer
(4) - 9 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

14. July [724 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

15. Maple Leaf Rag [1155 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 9 goods or better
(3) - 30 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

16. Tribal Revival [999 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 goods or better
(4) - 15 goods or better
(3) - 40 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

17. Black Wing Metamorphosis [1300 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 goods or better
(4) - 15 goods or better
(3) - 40 goods or better
(2) - 150 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

18. Thinking Different [902 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 goods or better
(3) - 20 goods or better
(2) - 100 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

19. MAX Forever [2709 Combo]
(7) - 1 good or better
(6) - 9 goods or better
(5) - 30 goods or better
(4) - 80 goods or better
(3) - 150 goods or better
(2) - 300 goods or better
(1) - pass the song

20. Mercury Lamp [1049 Combo]
(5) - 1 or fewer
(4) - 9 or fewer
(3) - 30 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

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1. 20031023 [1119 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 6 or fewer
(3) - 25 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

2. Amefuri Koneko [881 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

3. Interlude [1016 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 6 or fewer
(3) - 25 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

4. Carol Megamix [1225 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 6 or fewer
(3) - 25 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

5. Chaoz Japan [831 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

6. Coat Czech [670 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 3 or fewer
(4) - 9 or fewer
(3) - 30 or fewer
(2) - 80 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

7. Destination Unknown [849 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

8. Famouz [392 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 15 or fewer
(2) - 50 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

9. Final Fantasy 3 Boss [781 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

10. Forsaken Neon [650 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

11. Gaussian Blur 3 [859 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

12. Ivaltek [1115 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 6 or fewer
(3) - 25 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

13. Hyper Pressure [1111 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 6 or fewer
(3) - 25 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

14. Kirby Dream Land [947 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

15. Legendary Etude [1326 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

16. Megane De Ne! [1390 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

17. Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! [666 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

18. Over the Frail Dream [789 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

19. Ruins [877 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

20. Song of the second moon [705 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

21. Yukitsukiyashou [1089 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 6 or fewer
(3) - 25 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

22. Synaxis Symphony [706 Combo]
(5) - AAA
(4) - 5 or fewer
(3) - 20 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

23. Toru No Uta (Noise Rave Mix) [1148 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

24. {Blaze} [1372 Combo]
(5) - 1 or fewer
(4) - 9 or fewer
(3) - 30 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

25. {Rose} [1301 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

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1. Vertex BETA [1755 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

2. Tamashii [1132 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 12 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

3. Blue Army [3330 Combo] [VERY LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

4. Classical Insanity [1101 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

5. None Would Escape [1372 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

6. Balloon Fever [970 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

7. Counter Strike Gun Sounds [502 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

8. Katharsis [1121 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

9. K8107 [1071 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

10. Purple [498 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 6 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

11. Pwntendo [1144 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

12. Starlight [709 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

13. Adult's Sketchbook [869 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

14. X-Tinction [744 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 3 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

15. Extreme Dishwasher Race [1007 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 12 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

16. Finder Keepers [1113 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

17. Garyuutensei [1168 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

18. We Wish You A Merry Xmas (Jazzy Groove Mix) [1462 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

19. Twelve [1135 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

20. Nebula [she] [1244 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

21. Fake Jazz [895 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 6 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

22. Fast Asleep [665 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

23. Szamar Madar [1094 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

24. Lune Noir [746 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

25. Sirius [1169 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

26. UNknown Girl [1268 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

27. Gene Gadget Zone - Act 1 [1400 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 75 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

28. Feldschlacht [1783 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

29. Aztec Templing [962 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

30. Lunar Saturation [1095 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 6 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

31. Ievan Polkka [917 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

32. System Failure [1191 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

33. M.A.M.A. [1263 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

34. Southern Cross [2123 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 250 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

35. Slaytronic [1096 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

36. Infiltration [1337 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

37. Mysterious Desert [956 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

38. CRASH the BEAT! [1927 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

39. Witches Hat [1290 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

40. Sympathizer [1928 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

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1. 300 [1113 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 75 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

2. 3020 [1596 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

3. 4 Chord Touhou [1796 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 8 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

4. Aim Burst [2085 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

5. Arrogant Cobbler [1422 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 6 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

6. Battle Theme #37 [1337 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

7. BB Evolution [2631 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

8. Big Blue [1370 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

9. Black Key Etude [997 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 3 or fewer
(5) - 8 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

10. Blindfolds Aside [2578 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

11. Blooddrunk [Heavy] [2275 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 100 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 250 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

12. Blue-Violet [914 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 3 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

13. bmv.578 [1234 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

14. Beware of Purple Water [1742 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 250 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

15. Brandish Headless [2044 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

16. Choprite [1796 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 9 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

17. Church Bells [1201 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

18. Cinnamon Roll [2067 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 35 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

19. Clockwork [1267 Combo]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

20. Club [573 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

21. Dance and Zeal [1240 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

22. Dead and Direct [1443 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

23. Distorted God [1410 Combo]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

24. Document 13b [1173 Combo]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

25. Epidermis [1277 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

26. Eradication [1342 Combo]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 6 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

27. Exciting Hyper Highspeed Star [1337 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

28. Famicom Selecta [1163 Combo]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

29. Flesvelka [1658 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 250 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

30. Floating Hour [1770 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

31. Going On Spring Wind [1191 Combo]
(6) - 1 or fewer
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

32. Grocery Escape Plan [939 Combo]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

33. Hajnal [2000 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

34. Heavenly Spores [1643 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

35. Piano Concerto I 'ANTI-ARES' (For Kirby) [1850 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

36. INFINITY Hyperspace [1809 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

37. Jeanie and Caroline [1215 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

38. JULIA [1295 Combo]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 7 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

39. Kanon Medley ~Metal Wings~ [1545 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

40. Kyrie [899 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 2 or fewer
(6) - 7 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

41. Lawn Wake I (LW EP Edit) [1417 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 5 or fewer
(4) - 15 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

42. Mario Minor [2450 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

43. Master Maid [1465 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 75 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

44. Midnight Dragon [1396 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 75 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

45. Momentary Life [2125 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 35 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

46. Night and Day [2504 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

47. Novo Mundo [1264 Combo] [LONG]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 4 or fewer
(4) - 12 or fewer
(3) - 40 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

48. October [1564 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

49. Of course you Need and...NEED ME [1856 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

50. Op.10 No.9 [1024 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

51. Over The Ocean [1400 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 35 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

52. Overdrive [1817 Combo]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 35 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

53. Passage D [Heavy] [1483 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

54. Perfect Cherry Storm [1072 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

55. Piano Etude (Demon Fire) [1687 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 80 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

56. Piano Etude (Gymnastics) [1253 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 10 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 75 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

57. Puzzle [846 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

58. Radio Heads [1784 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 75 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

59. Rottel-da-station [1218 Combo]
(6) - AAA
(5) - 7 or fewer
(4) - 20 or fewer
(3) - 50 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

60. Scythe of 13 [2154 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - 1 or fewer
(6) - 8 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

61. Setsujou! Hyakka Ryouran! [1817 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

62. Silly Symphony [2223 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 35 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

63. Starwolf [1155 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

64. Strangeprogram [1442 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

65. Summer Time Perfume [1666 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 4 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 25 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

66. Thrash [2089 Combo] [LONG]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 5 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 35 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

67. Toxiferous Dystopia [1456 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 35 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

68. Variations 2 [1259 Combo]
(7) - AAA
(6) - 3 or fewer
(5) - 12 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

69. World Tour 2004 [3940 Combo] [VERY LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 15 or fewer
(6) - 30 or fewer
(5) - 60 or fewer
(4) - 120 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

70. Yorukumoryuu Yamikaze [2083 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 5 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

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1. A Quick Death [1651 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 12 or fewer
(7) - 20 or fewer
(6) - 50 or fewer
(5) - 80 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 250 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

2. Across Rooftops [2254 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

3. Blue Rose [3622 Combo] [VERY LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 10 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 75 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

4. Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern [1423 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 4 or fewer
(8) - 9 or fewer
(7) - 15 or fewer
(6) - 30 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 100 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

5. DeVouR [1478 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 4 or fewer
(8) - 9 or fewer
(7) - 20 or fewer
(6) - 40 or fewer
(5) - 70 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 250 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

6. Eclipse (Solar) [1445 Combo]
(11) - 1 or fewer
(10) - 3 or fewer
(9) - 9 or fewer
(8) - 20 or fewer
(7) - 50 or fewer
(6) - 80 or fewer
(5) - 120 or fewer
(4) - 200 or fewer
(3) - 300 or fewer
(2) - 500 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

7. Frictional Nevada [1325 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

8. Grand Galop Chromatique [2361 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

9. Grist [1519 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 12 or fewer
(7) - 25 or fewer
(6) - 50 or fewer
(5) - 80 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

10. Gunkienen Tarusuigin [1489 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

11. Hardkore Atomic [1034 Combo]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

12. Holy Orders [2758 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 25 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

13. honki sentai majirenjaa -MAJI eurobeat version- [1830 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 6 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

14. I Hate The 80s [1008 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

15. J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2 [1652 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 15 or fewer
(7) - 40 or fewer
(6) - 70 or fewer
(5) - 100 or fewer
(4) - 150 or fewer
(3) - 250 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

16. Ketsarku Mozgalom [1635 Combo]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 85 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

17. Kidney Stone [1619 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 100 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

18. La Campanella [2888 Combo] [LONG]
(11) - 1 or fewer
(10) - 5 or fewer
(9) - 12 or fewer
(8) - 30 or fewer
(7) - 50 or fewer
(6) - 100 or fewer
(5) - 200 or fewer
(4) - 400 or fewer
(3) - 600 or fewer
(2) - 800 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

19. 11ELEVEN [1528 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

20. Mathsma Attack [2587 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 25 or fewer
(5) - 50 or fewer
(4) - 80 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

21. Mephisto Waltz [1842 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 8 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

22. Necropotence [1695 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 3 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

23. Nomina Nuda Tenemus [987 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 3 or fewer
(7) - 7 or fewer
(6) - 12 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

24. Rage Template [1580 Combo]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 7 or fewer
(7) - 15 or fewer
(6) - 30 or fewer
(5) - 60 or fewer
(4) - 100 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 400 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

25. Reality [921 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 20 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 70 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

26. Saddest RMX [919 Combo]
(9) - AAA
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 15 or fewer
(5) - 30 or fewer
(4) - 60 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

27. Sparkle Downer [1360 Combo]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 8 or fewer
(5) - 15 or fewer
(4) - 30 or fewer
(3) - 60 or fewer
(2) - 120 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

28. Tageri [1945 Combo] [LONG]
(8) - 1 or fewer
(7) - 4 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 50 or fewer
(3) - 85 or fewer
(2) - 150 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

29. The Adventures Of Lolo [524 Combo]
(8) - AAA
(7) - 3 or fewer
(6) - 9 or fewer
(5) - 25 or fewer
(4) - 40 or fewer
(3) - 65 or fewer
(2) - 100 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

30. Little God Channel [2814 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 6 or fewer
(7) - 10 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 120 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

31. 12 Bar Bloops [2317 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 4 or fewer
(7) - 9 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 70 or fewer
(3) - 100 or fewer
(2) - 200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

32. Schmollbluk [1645 Combo]
(10) - 1 or fewer
(9) - 5 or fewer
(8) - 12 or fewer
(7) - 25 or fewer
(6) - 50 or fewer
(5) - 80 or fewer
(4) - 120 or fewer
(3) - 200 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

33. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ [3250 Combo] [LONG]
(9) - 1 or fewer
(8) - 5 or fewer
(7) - 12 or fewer
(6) - 20 or fewer
(5) - 40 or fewer
(4) - 75 or fewer
(3) - 150 or fewer
(2) - 300 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

34. Winter Wind Etude [2407 Combo] [LONG]
(12) - 1 or fewer
(11) - 4 or fewer
(10) - 9 or fewer
(9) - 20 or fewer
(8) - 45 or fewer
(7) - 70 or fewer
(6) - 120 or fewer
(5) - 200 or fewer
(4) - 400 or fewer
(3) - 600 or fewer
(2) - 800 or fewer
(1) - pass the song


For Dossar Only [13] <--- YUP
--------------------------

37. Death Piano [Combo 2453] [LONG]
(15) - 2 or fewer
(14) - 9 or fewer
(13) - 20 or fewer
(12) - 40 or fewer
(11) - 70 or fewer
(10) - 100 or fewer
(9) - 150 or fewer
(8) - 200 or fewer
(7) - 300 or fewer
(6) - 400 or fewer
(5) - 600 or fewer
(4) - 800 or fewer
(3) - 1000 or fewer
(2) - 1200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song

38. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion [Combo 1600]
(15) - 15 or fewer
(14) - 30 or fewer
(13) - 50 or fewer
(12) - 70 or fewer
(11) - 90 or fewer
(10) - 120 or fewer
(9) - 180 or fewer
(8) - 250 or fewer
(7) - 400 or fewer
(6) - 500 or fewer
(5) - 600 or fewer
(4) - 800 or fewer
(3) - 1000 or fewer
(2) - 1200 or fewer
(1) - pass the song



Leaders of this Project:
i love you (Byron) = Head Leader and Creator of the new revised TP system.
qqwref (Michael) = Co-Leader and Coder of the new revised TP System.
DossarLX ODI (Roy) = Co-Leader and Contributor.

Special Thanks:
remedy1502 (Michael) = For spending a lot of time helping us balance the Very Challenging songs which helped us a lot with the VC list.
TC_Halogen (AJ) = For going in depth with the For Gurus only songs which helped us a lot with the FGO list.
Zageron (Adam) = For taking the time and effort into creating a program for this Tier Point system!
reuben_tate (Ben) - For assisting Zageron with his program and for saving him the headache. You are amazing!
Emerald000 (Maël) = For creating an awesome sorting algorithm for Zageron. Thanks for the support!
Velocity = For helping Zageron with styling and other stuff.

Outline Contributors:
Elite Ninja = For being the first person to turn in an outline!
rushyrulz = He spent time giving me a list of 50 very difficult songs instead of 25!
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Interesting. Thanks for the update guys. Looks very well thought out.
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Q: Why do the Tier Point requirements require FCing the song? Shouldn't they just be based on PA?
A: We'd actually love to do this, but combo scoring ruins it. The combo is so much more important than PA right now, so lots of people have mashed scores with good combo but bad PA, and they can't improve them without getting at least that much combo. So going based on the PA in your best score would be really unfair to those people, since they'd be getting fewer points than they deserve.
Um, can't we just avert that completely by using raw score?
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A suggestion for the new system: Get rid of the asterisks.

This actually serves an important function: Only one script has to be run to see if someone has met the requirement or not. The way it is now, the system is probably "did you get it? No? Okay, let's see if you came close enough for an asterisk." With this method, you either have a TP or you don't. This also allows the system to show accurate margins (how many more points one needs for the next TP).
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That's exactly the point, if you just look at the raw score of the best score someone has, some people will get the PA they deserve and some won't, and that's just not fair.

Recording the best raw score on each song is one of the ways to get rid of combo scoring, but the admins don't want to do it because it would require adding another column to the high score database (= a lot of work).
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Get rid of the asterisks.
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This looks good, I'm excited
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Um, can't we just avert that completely by using raw score?
One of the main things that I like about ffr is that it uses combo scoring. Not that I love combo scoring, I suck at it and prefer raw, but we would prolly lose a buncha combo scoring players.
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One of the main things that I like about ffr is that it uses combo scoring. Not that I love combo scoring, I suck at it and prefer raw, but we would prolly lose a buncha combo scoring players.
People that just mash, not a bad thing.
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it would require adding another column to the high score database (= a lot of work).
Have you tried "alter table" syntax, or regex find+replace?
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Have you tried "alter table" syntax, or regex find+replace?
Yeah, uh, I'm not actually an admin

The table's really big though, there's one entry for every user's high score on every song they've played. It's certainly not a quick task.
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And there are like 5000 people that have played most songs in the game - like 99% of people on this site join and never get into it. Using the 99% estimate there are about 17000 people on this site who have played a significant # of songs (let's assume all 920-odd publics.) So computing raw score is equivalent to calculating

(perfects * 50) + (goods * 25) + (avs * 10) + (misses * -10) + (boos * -5) = 10 flops.

10 * 17000 * 925 = 157,250,000 flops. Suppose the other 1.68 million have played, on average, 5 songs.

10 * 5 * 1683000 = 84,150,000 flops

Adding these results in 241,400,000 flops - so for a 24-hour downtime while we fix the list we'd require a computing speed of 2794 flop/s. I think the PS3s on the shelf are a tad faster than that.

I probably grossly underestimated the numbers, but I don't think it's too far fetched.
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Im really glad to see this coming full circle.
I cant wait to see it finished.
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I am so glad that this whole thing is progressing instead of dying out!
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I'm against having anything lower than 10's in the TP list. I like tier points because they've always been aimed at the elite, I don't want to have to play easier files. That's why my FC and AAA bars are so low.
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we would prolly lose a buncha combo scoring players.
Good, they suck anyway.
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