Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

[TC_Halogen]

I knew about the rule, but I disagree with it in entirety, and I'm sure other judges do as well since they are late with detailed notes.

I personally think it's good to help pinpoint problems that a person has within one simfile so that they reduce the potential of making that same mistake in the future. It works both ways - users get what they want, and eventually, judges get less of what they don't want (i.e. mistakes).

[i love you]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

I personally think it's good to help pinpoint problems that a person has within one simfile so that they reduce the potential of making that same mistake in the future. It works both ways - users get what they want, and eventually, judges get less of what they don't want (i.e. mistakes).

Yes, thank you. I agree with this fully. This is exactly why I do this myself. I would hate for someone to have to figure out where they made their mistakes.

[jimerax]

This might depend on personaly preference but I don't always like "long" or "detailed" notes when the most important things for the rating are obscure there. "Tips for the improvement of the files" are nice to have there, but you don't really need to include all of them when you don't have enough time.

Anyways,

Accepted Files - 81 files out of 135 submissions


[SAP = 3] (8.3 or above)

Art Of The Madness (MarioNintendo)
Beatrice (iironiic)
Undiscovered Colors (TC_Halogen)
Toki (bmah)


[SAP = 2] (7.3 or above)

Arsonist (kommisar)
(Gonna Rape) Kylie (WV)
A Lifetime (F-777 ReMiX) (PrawnSkunk)
Call Me Maybe (Grabbitz Remix) (WV)
Call Upon the Seaponies (EuroSHOOBEDOO Mix) (megamon88)
car select (MarioNintendo)
Devil's Music Box (Jake Ferguson)
Electrolosys (YOSHI)
En Tamako No Ri (MrPopadopalis25)
FF7 - Theme of Aeris (MarioNintendo)
gPrOeWaEtRaFnUdL (Dave! Remix) (megamon88)
I See You Staring (psychoangel691)
Infinity (kommisar)
Move it Groove It (Heavy) (TC_Halogen)
Move It Groove It [Standard] (psychoangel691)
Twinkle Of The Stars (kommisar)
Dragon Slayer (Silvuh)
Internal Cannon (Condoct)
ETERNAL DRAIN [heavy] (bmah)
Heartsifter (_.Spitfire._)
Heffalump Hardcore 2010 (_.Spitfire._)
Introduction (LongGone)
Kaze no Tou (kjwkjw)
LUV CAN SAVE U (bmah)
Oops (YOSHl)
OVERklock (DarkZtar)
Pictures at an exhibition (MarioNintendo)
Reaching for the Floor (samurai7694)
Throwin' Down (samurai7694)
Lorem Ipsum (bmah & Halogen)
Lunatic (megamon88)
Pull in Pull in Popped Syo Call up Arrest (jimerax)
Slam The Door (Rogue Remix) (Coolboyrulez0)
Snow (DossarLX ODI)
Still Shy VIP Instrumental (megamon88)
Stuck (YOSHl)
Swaying Sunflowers (Silvuh)
Unshakeable (MarioNintendo)
VALLISTA (LongGone)
Walk on Water (Silvuh)
Wonder World! (Silvuh)
Zombie Killing, Blood Spilling (woker-X & bmah)


[SAP = 1] (6.7 or above)

2-9 (DossarLX ODI)
44 Edit (FissionMailed1)
Beautiful Arrhythmia (iironiic)
Blue Marine (Elite Ninja)
Dim Wood (gameboy42690)
Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Rondo (Zakvvv666)
Macau Underground (kommisar)
The Big Crunch (kommisar)
Dead Batteries (Silvuh)
Celsus (Razor)
In The Clouds (Tidus810)
Into Your Eyes (Boyinaband Remix) (TC_Halogen)
Kirlian Shores (DarkZtar)
MEPHISTO (bmah)
Neurotoxin (Reshiram)
Nothing's Gonna Stop Me v2 (Tidus810)
Playing SMW on Shrooms (Scintill)
Resistance 4 (mi40)
Stepfile This (WV)
The Strategy of Emperor (Tidus810)
Tied The Room Together (Jake Ferguson)
Devilz Staircase (Razor)
Garden Party (ichliebekase)
Mozart on Crack (megamon88)
Rill Rill (Dr.Ozi Remix) (Coolboyrulez0)
sign of hero (Silvuh)
Sleep (alloyus)
Stinger (mi40)
tetris (YOSHl)
Twisted Hide and Seek (Silvuh)
Warai (DossarLX ODI)
Waterfall (DarkZtar)
What Lies Beyond The Mountains (VisD)
When Penguins Fly (0)
Your One (_.Spitfire._)


[Not accepted this time, but can be counted as "Resubmission" next time]

N's Farewell (Xx{Midnight}xX) - 6.69
LEG TAP (kommisar) - 6.69
Jeh Jeh Slammin' (Extended Mix) (Charu) - 6.69
8-Bit Purple Comet (Reshiram) - 6.68
Dear Noriko (_.Spitfire._) - 6.68
T.Y.H.Y (Coolboyrulez0) - 6.68
Rainbow Tylenol (PrawnSkunk) - 6.61
Tachyon (gameboy42690) - 6.60
Challenge the final mission! (VisD) - 6.50
Day's End (Zakvvv666) - 6.48
Alice's Garden (XelNya) - 6.39
Child Protective Services Theme Song (alloyus) - 6.39

Usually 10 files but we had two 10ths so total 11 files.

[TC_Halogen]

oh my god, really

6 files were at least .02 away...
and 3 files were .01 away...

...

I feel -really- bad for two of the top three sitting there... (not LEG TAP though, lmfao)

[Razor]

Resistance 4 (mi40)

jladkas;d'l;e yes

[TC_Halogen]

Haha, I guess I'm the only one who wasn't a fan of Resistance 4, lol.

Congrats on getting the file in, Ji.

EDIT: I see multiple collabs under +2 SAP, but those will be rewarded 0, right?

[Charu]

Yeah, I was really bummed out when I heard that mine just BARELY scraped the acceptance line.

But... until next time!

[jimerax]

FYI, we have a system to make the rating system fairer (ex. when one judge's rating is drastically lower/higher than others).

- If average rating of one group is higher than another one, the final ratings will be adjusted between groups (average file quality factor = 50%, judge's strictness factor = 50%).
- If a judge is stricter/more lenient (lower/higher average rating) than others in the same group, the ratings will be adjusted. Variation of ratings will be considered too.
- We calculate final scores of a file in two ways, "raw average" and "adjusted average" (halving MAX & MIN scores). If one of these is above the cutoff then the file is accepted. Both scores should be above the certain line for SAP(2) or SAP(3).

[PrawnSkunk]

Originally Posted by jimerax

[Not accepted this time, but can be counted as "Resubmission" next time]
...
Rainbow Tylenol (PrawnSkunk) - 6.61

I promised. This file is now in the recycle bin. Sorry, it's been a good 4 or 5 batches ... but it's the end of the road for you ;_;

[Jake Ferguson]

Was expecting Tied The Room Together to get rejected again, really happy I have 2 files in the queue now

[alloyus]

so excited :3

[TC_Halogen]

- We calculate final scores of a file in two ways, "raw average" and "adjusted average" (halving MAX & MIN scores). If one of these is above the cutoff then the file is accepted. Both scores should be above the certain line for SAP(2) or SAP(3).

Can you clarify this rule, please? Wouldn't the adjusted average -always- be below the raw average?

[jimerax]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Can you clarify this rule, please? Wouldn't the adjusted average -always- be below the raw average?

oh nope, since we're dividing with (n-1) for adjusted average.

9/7/7/7 -> raw = 7.5 and adj = 7.33
8/8/8/4 -> raw = 7.0 and adj = 7.33

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by jimerax

oh nope, since we're dividing with (n-1) for adjusted average.
9/7/7/7 -> raw = 7.5 and adj = 7.33
8/8/8/4 -> raw = 7.0 and adj = 7.33

HELLO

did not know that bolded part, haha.

So, using the 8/8/8/4, we'd cut one 8 and the 4 in half to go:

4/8/8/2 (equaling 22)

and then since the values are cut in half, the numbers are half as potent (i.e. 4 and 2 become worth half a judge a piece to make the [n-1].)

That makes a lot more sense; thanks a lot JX

[Coolboyrulez0]

2/4 plus a resubmit... not bad. Will fix up SMB2 and if anything is truly wrong with TYHY i'll fix that up too. Pretty pleased. :>

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Got a chart into the resub list?

You're to kind!

[Zakvvv666]

Team Blaze invading resubmissions :3

Also yay one chart in and the other is a resub~

[VisD]

Finally got a chart in holy crap I'd like to thank my mother my father my priest my teacher my coach my terrapins my lovers and of course the Academy.


On and a resub too, that's pretty neat as well

[krunkykai22]

Originally Posted by jimerax

FYI, we have a system to make the rating system fairer (ex. when one judge's rating is drastically lower/higher than others).

- If average rating of one group is higher than another one, the final ratings will be adjusted between groups (average file quality factor = 50%, judge's strictness factor = 50%).
- If a judge is stricter/more lenient (lower/higher average rating) than others in the same group, the ratings will be adjusted. Variation of ratings will be considered too.
- We calculate final scores of a file in two ways, "raw average" and "adjusted average" (halving MAX & MIN scores). If one of these is above the cutoff then the file is accepted. Both scores should be above the certain line for SAP(2) or SAP(3).

I thought the exact same thing that AJ did. When calculating it before the n-1 it was ALWAYS consistently lower ... naturally. Now with the (n-1) I see how both scores would differ then.

So (using my file as an example) is this right:

My Ratings were - 2,6,6,7 :

Raw = 5.25
Adj = 5.5

?

[iironiic]

Yay for Beatrice!! (: First time getting more than one SAP on one file!