Old 09-30-2018, 10:16 AM   #1
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Hi everyone! So this is the first pack I've officially released, not my first time making simfiles but the first time I'm confident enough to publicly share them.
This pack contains all of the songs that can be found on the album by Massive New Krew: HADES.
I liked the album enough that I decided to map all of it, I hope you'll enjoy playing these files as much as I enjoyed making them

There's a decent variety of simfile types in here but most of it is technical/jumpstream/stamina.

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Mr. C for testing and giving feedback.
IcyWorld for giving me a 3 hour lecture about what makes a good simfile.

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Old 09-30-2018, 11:31 AM   #2
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Camellia 🤢
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Old 09-30-2018, 11:59 AM   #3
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good gfx okay attempts at cartography
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Old 09-30-2018, 12:07 PM   #4
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Camellia 🤢
I actually didn't know Camellia was so popular when I started working on this, definitely felt a bit dirty after uncovering the truth.
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Old 09-30-2018, 02:03 PM   #5
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much better than most "first pack"s from the past 2 years or so
thoughts for each file here:
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overall advice that applies to pretty much the whole pack:
stop filling in random js
pay more attention to what the percussion and melody are actually doing
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Old 09-30-2018, 02:06 PM   #6
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also the song choice makes me want to shoot myself
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Old 09-30-2018, 02:39 PM   #7
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Thanks a million for the in depth review, I didn't expect that.
I guess I became blind to some of the more glaring issues after staring at these simfiles for so long.
Looks like I'm due for some more tweaking and a re-release eventually!
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:18 PM   #8
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re-release eventually!
Not something I'd recommend. Best to move on and just make your files from after the pack better than before
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Old 09-30-2018, 06:29 PM   #9
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Hmm, looking into this

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I tried all of these on Challenge difficulty and didn't bother w Heavy.

1: Extremely overstepped.
2: Soon as the drop hit and I saw stream I quit.
3: I don't like being critical but hands/jumps/singles shouldn't all go to the same sounds. That's what makes them hands/jumps/singles.
4: Big potential here also as i'm normally a fan of songs like this. I am not a fan of hold stream though. More because I can't do it Also leaves out a lot of technical things you can do with the song since you're basically turning a 4 key song into a 3 key song which is already a small amount of keys as it is.
5: Hard to step files like these. Got bored very quickly.

I then noticed all the songs were long or marathon so I picked out the songs that sounded as they would be steppable.

10: Okay this wasn't TERRIBLE as this file has a TON of potential. I highly recommend saving this file for when you're a bit more experienced in stepping and giving this a go because this could easily be a 10/10 file.
Amazing song choice but the actual file needs a lot of tweaking. Seems like you threw a lot of random notes around since it was going too fast. Slow down and take your time! It's not a rush

13: I saw Camellia so I thought i'd give it a shot but got bored too quickly.

OK, as a first pack it's not bad but also not good. I'll give you bonus marks since my first files were jokes compared to these. Then again I was 15 at the time and thought it was a good idea to try to step Angel of Death by Slayer as a first song... whoops

Please, please don't try forcing files to be fun by adding random notes. Random streams or whatever won't make a cool song fun.
To be honest not just speaking for myself a lot of players enjoy short, fun to play files. If you like a song but the song drags on for a very long time before a fun part... cut those parts out and focus on the fun, nobody likes waiting. Imagine you're at a theme park and you have to wait to get on the roller coaster for 1 hour then when you finally get on the ride it only takes 2-3 minutes and it's done. Yeah, don't do that with files, lmao.
If these songs were cut down to 2 minutes it would be a lot easier to focus on making quality files but also keeping the song fun and re-playable.
I agree with PixlSM with the song choices as more of them are extremely difficult or almost impossible to make into a fun file. I think 2 songs out of the whole 14 I could see being fun files if done correctly.
That was a huge problem here... me getting bored before the fun part of the file. Learn to cut files and take a longer time constructing patterns to make them feel better and just overall make the file more enjoyable to play.
-Audacity is a fantastic audio cutting tool for beginners
The reason I didn't like most of the songs was because it's just hard to step jcore. Most jcore songs don't make fun files. The song choice is what killed it tbh.

As for a re-release. I also don't recommend that. Keep this the way it is and maybe work on 1-2 files from this for a future date. Even if most of these songs were stepped to perfection they wouldn't be fun.
75% of the battle is finding something worth stepping. Actually stepping something fun after that is the easy part.
Good luck bud!
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Old 10-1-2018, 02:11 AM   #10
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Hey thank you so much for the feedback! I definitely agree with what you've said here. Funny enough I've cut a few songs in here using Audacity I tried to keep everything as short as possible without making it awkward, but yeah the song choice wasn't the easiest to work with in the end.
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Old 10-1-2018, 02:24 PM   #11
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I personally wish we could step j-core as I love the genre. Just doesn't make for the best files sadly
If anything we could always do a collab on that file 10 if you'd like
(i've already started)
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Old 10-1-2018, 02:46 PM   #12
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I would actually be very interested in seeing your take on that file.
A collab sounds interesting for sure, here's my Discord if want to talk: bryll#0746
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Old 10-1-2018, 10:30 PM   #13
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Will prob look at a couple of these in the future since I'm a fan of MNK
Just from first impressions of the songs though Walkure has a shitload of reused stuff from Niebelungen lmao goddammit genki
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