Old 06-25-2019, 03:12 PM   #441
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so I'm doing this right now but something too glaring just stood out to me



WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT OUR POSTS THERE BUD

do our jokes and shitposts really mean so little to you
I just just read this and I meant I've not actually seen or read a single game of TWG through before XD I need to actually do that, Im sure I'd find many shit posts hilarious.

Just a small thing from trying to reread some of this day. I missed some things obviously.
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Sanzath why did you wait 15 hours to respond to some of the stuff I put on you
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your wolf read on yoshi is weak. If you want to consider the scenario of manufactured evidence in Antori's favor, then you have to consider the same scenario possibly being manufactured against Yoshi, and Yoshi didn't even post. I've explained my point on dragonmega, and raeko, while I see it, it's waaaaaay the fuck out there, because the only time I really saw raeko in this thread was during EoD. I think there's a lot more evidence that says the wolf is elsewhere.
I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN BY THE BOLDED PART
It means that if you're willing to consider the scenario that the conversation between Shadowgod and Antori is fabricated, then you should also take into consideration the possibility of the conversation between Shadowgod & Yoshi being fabricated, which didn't even happen because Yoshi was not around to post.

scum leaning Antori from that back and forth would mean town leaning Yoshi for me.
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AND WHY WOULD I THEN PROCEED TO NIGHTKILL H&H?????
This is something I actually agree with. Wolf should have killed me.
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I DON'T WANNA WOLFREAD YOU BUT GODDAMN IS IT HARD WHEN YOUR LYNCH ORDER GETS RID OF EVERYONE MOST LIKELY TO CONTEST YOU LEADING THE GAME AND LEAVES INACTIVE SHEEP ALIVE
I also agree with this, and it's quite infuriating. If the inactive set of town (ShyYoshiGuy, Antori, Raeko, dragonmega) don't start taking the reigns of the situation and start attempting to solve the game from outside of a mechanic standpoint then the next few day phases are going to be largely inactive, and ripe for the final wolf to steer conversation whichever way they please.

At least with MN's post I am satisfied knowing that no matter who dies in the night phase tonight, there's still going to be a lot of town solving happening.
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Please wolf, whoever you are, even if you're alone in wolfchat, please write your thoughts and strategy as the game unfolds, i want to read this later
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Old 06-25-2019, 04:03 PM   #448
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i dont read the bigger posts i just glance over them, yes i think dragon is still a good vote to my knowledge they haven't done anything to prove me otherwise
list of things that prove me otherwise:
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Also I think sanzath's string of posts is mostly towny based on tone, I like his enthusiasm for the game and his frustration about people not posting seems genuine. I'd think a wolf would be more happy about a null game state

The fact that he is SO defensive toward gold stinger is a little bit worrisome and does look like overreacting based on how far away eod is and how many people even seem interested in following on that push at this point. but this could just be mixing with his frustration at the lack of activity
imho Sanzath pre-goldstinger vote d1 seemed like he was taking advantage of that null game state. Like it helps that questions are being tossed around now, but when you reflect on MN's post (Get ready to put on your tinfoil hats for this dose of tunnel vision):

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Overall, to me this just screams "Veteran wolf", someone who has rolled wolf before, or has seen enough games to see where that eod was headed. Someone active enough to catch Shadow_God in mid-air and prevent them from spilling some beans.

Looking at our set of players, this would put some light on:
- Gold Stinger (hate to list him, because I like GS very much this game, but if he was wolf this is how I think he would play it)
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- Sanzath
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* easy going
* making obvious town reads (possibly to get people to agree with them and find them not menacing)
It really does seem to me, that after Sanzath wasn't getting really anywhere with me, he shifted gears to open frustration on the game and swap to asking literally everyone questions about everything.
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I also agree with this, and it's quite infuriating. If the inactive set of town (ShyYoshiGuy, Antori, Raeko, dragonmega) don't start taking the reigns of the situation and start attempting to solve the game from outside of a mechanic standpoint then the next few day phases are going to be largely inactive, and ripe for the final wolf to steer conversation whichever way they please.

At least with MN's post I am satisfied knowing that no matter who dies in the night phase tonight, there's still going to be a lot of town solving happening.
ok so here's my take on things as of right now:

I'm finding Antori and Yoshi suspicious for essentially the same reason. They both seem very easily persuaded and it's really hard for me to read them based on their reasoning since they both just kinda use other people's posts as reasoning.

I think Yoshi is more suspicious though based on a few things. I'm not sure about this post
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Much less lazy, much more because I have no clue what Iím doing. But I am also lazy because Iím busy.
it seems like excuses to sheep town read people, and not have a lot of accountability for his own reads

and also the fact that he wanted to lynch anyone inactive right off the bat. with so many inactives that seems like a safe mislynch bet for a wolf

I still think it's highly probable that gold stinger is town, and I wouldn't vote for MN today even though he is currently voting for me ;_;

Sanzath I'm going to have to read again since I wasn't quite paying enough attention yesterday and he's posted quite a bit. I liked his tone but that's not enough to go off at this point

Dragon I'm having a tough time reading despite ISOing them earlier
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@gold stinger

I get the idea of a lynch order based on votes, I think it's a good idea but just not with me at the front

I think yoshi or even dragon would be better for first choices
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it means isolating one person's posts
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dragonmega you really have to read from a standpoint that they've never played a game of TWG before, and whether or not they would have received assistance in playing the game through wolfchat in d0.

Antori and ShyYoshiGuy are both playing this game from a mechanical standpoint and they both aren't really reading why people are leaning the way they are. I mean, ShyYoshiGuy voting me is basically the pinnacle of that.
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reading MN's Thought posts right now

holy shit thank you
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@MN what's your thoughts on my dragonmega read? ShyYoshiGuy didn't really see it and thought it was out there enough to vote me, Raeko can't see it
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My problem with wolf votes on dragonmega this phase is because literally the entire game dragonmega has been playing a game where they do not know what certain things or opinions on plays are, and are doing wolfy things/making bad plays without even realizing it. Even if the argument is "But Shadowgod is also a brand new player and also made bad plays and doesn't know certain things", it doesn't change that dragonmega didn't know what a read was after the flip when Shadowgod did. I feel like if there was some level of confusion on how to read things in the thread, Shadowgod would have at least assisted that much getting their wolf partner on board.
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dragonmega you really have to read from a standpoint that they've never played a game of TWG before, and whether or not they would have received assistance in playing the game through wolfchat in d0.

Antori and ShyYoshiGuy are both playing this game from a mechanical standpoint and they both aren't really reading why people are leaning the way they are. I mean, ShyYoshiGuy voting me is basically the pinnacle of that.
I realize this. To be honest Iíve seen both of them make simple decisions based on little to no information. When MN made his giant post, I wanted to support and maybe switch votes, but I kind of sensed it was a bait to see who would switch votes right away, and seeing Yoshi do just that kind of confirmed that. It was mainly me concerned that I wouldnít be able to give valid reasons for why I switched or anything like that, because I donít have a solid read on Antori or anything, I mainly voted because he was like the third person to kind of heavily read into the dead wolfís read on me and it was getting annoying.

I understand the mechanics at this point. Iím just trying to figure out the mindsets and how people interpret things before I post things, because essentially anyone here from my perspective can be a wolf and seeing each other twist and turn votes/leads is making me nervous to come out of my shell and say anything Iím not 100% confident in.
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@MN what's your thoughts on my dragonmega read? ShyYoshiGuy didn't really see it and thought it was out there enough to vote me, Raeko can't see it
The only thing that makes dragon look bad in my eyes is Shadow_God's read on them. Dragon doesn't know the lingo, but it doesn't affect my opinion at all, since it's both so easy to fake and so probable to be true...
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