TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

And it wasn't purely an info lynch at all, just so you know. I saw AA vs DFR as a TvW debate, so... I picked a side, changed last minute which one, and went with it with the knowledge it would give me interaction reads with the players I had listed.

...I mean... why is that bad?

..why didn't you mention this at all last phase? Seems really convenient for you to change your reasoning now.

It's bad because you said you voted him for "all" the info his flip would give, in EoD, with no visible buildup at all. It's the only thing I don't like about you rn, but it's not too big of a deal because DFR flipped town.
If he had flipped wolf, you'd be my biggest scumread. As it is, it's just a questionable action made even more questionable by your reasoning change.

[DaBackpack]

AA I don't understand your allegation against Charu about the "information lynch"

If he followed his scum lean, wouldn't he be voting freezin instead of you? We know freezin is town, so it's not like he was trying to find excuses to not vote a scum

from wolf charu's point of view, lynching a town vs town would be completely arbitrary, and then why would he stick his neck out against you in particular?

[DaBackpack]

I don't see what the utility of voting for you instead of Freezin was if he's a wolf

[DaBackpack]

unless there was somebody Charu had as a stronger wolf at the time?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I get these are first impressions but these seem super hedgy

Are you serious? How are they hedgy?
That's almost funny, considering you just posted this wonderful reads list:

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

yoshl - town
charu - town?
rapta - open wolfing or potato town
funnygurl - ?
shado - POE
dabackpack - doesn't feel town

Where you have me as your PoE pick with a ?, a scumlean, and someone who could be open wolfing. That's literally the definition of hedging. Idk how you can even talk about my "impressions post" when your "reads list" didn't give your thoughts or reasoning at all.

I think I might be giving you too much credit at this point. I was reading you town despite some ?? because I thought the ?? wouldn't come from wolf AA. It's becoming painfully obvious to me how backwards my reasoning was right now.


Fuck I'm late. I'll be back in 2 hours or so.

[inDheart]

Funnygurl555 (1) - YoshL
AragakiAyase (1) - Funnygurl555
ShadoWolfe (1) - AragakiAyase
Unvote: Charu

Not voting: Rapta, ShadoWolfe, DaBackpack

[AragakiAyase]

working on a project due soon right now, will get back to people on stuff soon

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

AA I don't understand your allegation against Charu about the "information lynch"

If he followed his scum lean, wouldn't he be voting freezin instead of you? We know freezin is town, so it's not like he was trying to find excuses to not vote a scum

from wolf charu's point of view, lynching a town vs town would be completely arbitrary, and then why would he stick his neck out against you in particular?

I thought dfr was scum so it seemed like a way out of a scum lynch onto a mislynch

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I'll admit that my presence was kinda weak yesterday. To be fair, though, it's because I came in really late and was playing catchup the rest of the phase. I literally got home, saw the game was going, and put aside even my food to start reading up before EoD. Metaing DFR as scum was clearly wrong, but even his posts talking about how badly he was doing this phase just reminded me of him talking about how he was trying to do better in the previous game. I guess I was tunneling after the last game, but I really didn't think so.




???
"shado with wolf pop in"?

...wtf is this, I wasn't even wolf in FE. Only time I've ever rolled wolf on FFR has been in the valais game, and you should know that..

a wolfy pop in

yeah I know you weren't a wolf

[AragakiAyase]

[quote=ShadoWolfe;4503838]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...145930&page=52

Also forgot to mention this in the last one but this link isn't working. It goes to the beginning of the game on my computer, and the end of the game on my phone

well it's on page 52

[Funnygurl555]

why are games always inactive when I can play

[inDheart]

A call! From Paris!

T-Force has replaced Rapta.

Welcome, welcome!

[AragakiAyase]

shado here's one of the problems I have with you

at EOD (last hour) you had a grand total of 9 posts

I feel like town shado would be trying to push people and readjust his reads, especially his scum read. yet you have almost no interactions with anyone, not even dfr. I scumread him but I kept interacting him to see if I started townreading him

you kinda just sat there

I see now in one of your posts that you were dealing with some IRL stuff, but idk

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

A call! From Paris!

T-Force has replaced Rapta.

Welcome, welcome!

oh

t-force

[T-Force]

funnygurl555

Hi guys, gonna go read D0 and what's transpired here in D1.

[AragakiAyase]

going to ISO shado more closely later

maybe we can just lynch funnygurl

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

..why didn't you mention this at all last phase? Seems really convenient for you to change your reasoning now.

It's bad because you said you voted him for "all" the info his flip would give, in EoD, with no visible buildup at all. It's the only thing I don't like about you rn, but it's not too big of a deal because DFR flipped town.
If he had flipped wolf, you'd be my biggest scumread. As it is, it's just a questionable action made even more questionable by your reasoning change.

this is a better post

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Are you serious? How are they hedgy?
That's almost funny, considering you just posted this wonderful reads list:



Where you have me as your PoE pick with a ?, a scumlean, and someone who could be open wolfing. That's literally the definition of hedging. Idk how you can even talk about my "impressions post" when your "reads list" didn't give your thoughts or reasoning at all.

I think I might be giving you too much credit at this point. I was reading you town despite some ?? because I thought the ?? wouldn't come from wolf AA. It's becoming painfully obvious to me how backwards my reasoning was right now.


Fuck I'm late. I'll be back in 2 hours or so.

let me walk you through why your list is hedgy

1. Charu being weird but haven't seen his scumtell yet - you basically say he's at scummy/null here, but then you say you haven't seen his scumtell yet, which implies to me that you're reading him primarily on some tell? do you have nothing else to read on him on?

2. Yoshl I thought was being wolfy for a couple of his responses but he looks town after catching up - so while this isn't technically hedgy, it's very neutral and vague. You don't say anywhere anything about these posts (possible I've missed this, we'll see)

3. AA null but looks towny as usual - meh, this doesn't bother me that much, there was a later thing that bothered me more though where it seemed like you were breadcrumbing for a push on me, something like "I'm not reading AA wolf right now but will look tomorrow"

4. Gradiant seems off but I can't place it - very neutral

meh fuck this list actually it's not that bad

ok I guess maybe hedgy was the incorrect word, neutral probably fits better
It feels like you're just in the middle on most people

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by T-Force

funnygurl555

Hi guys, gonna go read D0 and what's transpired here in D1.

t-force

[AragakiAyase]

let me explain why my list makes sense

you being POE is largely because I have a few nulls on other people and because of your behavior at EOD that I mentioned

the reason funnygurl is a big ? is because tbh I can't really read her, and she has still barely done anything this game

rapta is all over the place, sheeping, switching votes, making ??? reads, but this can all fit in line with a new town player looking for help instead of someone just being really wolfy

you talking about me not giving reasons in my reads list is kinda meh, I think there's a clear progression to all of my stances in my posts except maybe funnygurl