Old 03-3-2018, 10:52 AM   #1
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Honestly, I've never been able to get a decent hand positioning that isn't completely frustrating. I'm not sure what's the easiest for you guys, however whenever I am playing I don't have a 100% focus as I'm constantly shifting hand placement during songs and sometimes even cancel out a song to try and reposition everything.

In my mind I'm also focussing on the hand placement while I'm playing and I truly want to get rid of it. I haven't been able to get a skillboost in a few years, also because of this.

My current position is spread AS;' usually resting the back of the palms. elbows rested, trying for straight back. Nothing really seems to help, I've tried lifting my hands above the keyboard, which greatly improves my accuracy and speed, however I keep missing keys or double hitting them. which usually ends me up with an even worse score.
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Old 03-3-2018, 02:17 PM   #2
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I just lay in my bed with the keyboard on my lap qw []
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Old 03-3-2018, 02:54 PM   #3
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its all preference my dude, but what i did is pull off all the keys except the ones i use to play so i can easily move my setup wherev whenev. taking all the keys off helps with not getting ur fingers trapped between keys as well.

recently i've been playing around at the top of the kb stuff like QWOP, ERIO, 1290 ect. It feels more comfy then AS;' imo bc ur wrists are quite as angled. I tend to slip forward not backward on my keys so playing at the top helps control that somewhat.

Also what helps me when my fingers are just feeling hella weird is to smoke lol then i forget all about my hands and just hit the keys to the music.

A staggered setup might feel more comfy to u... like AZ/' instead of AS;' personally I could never get used to it but some ppl like it.

gl meng, if u play everyday after awhile it should come naturally to u. i think.

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Old 03-3-2018, 02:59 PM   #4
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In my prime, I used to do QWOP as a spread setup.

Nowadays, I've been doing CV23 (Numpad) whenever I get the urge to play FFR these days.
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I used to play index but recently started AS56.
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Old 03-3-2018, 04:43 PM   #6
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i used to use weio but my middle fingers would ache after a while in that position. i just sorta put my fingers in the comfiest position above my kb keys and used whatever keys were underneath no matter how weird they seemed so now i use dvnk. also i moved the kb around a bit. i usually like it slanted to the left.
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I used to use sdkl but along with using wasd on other games my s, d, and sometimes a key are pretty f'ed. Use zx./ now.

I used to "I can't get a comfortable spot for my right hand at all", all the time, but since I started using my laptop I've had to deal with awkward positions a lot more. I still sometimes get the feeling but I find it helps if you really try not to think about your hands while you're playing. Kind of like when you think about your tongue in your mouth and it feels really big and can't find a good position for it, or like when you start overthinking your breathing pattern and it feels like you're breathing manually. I usually just have shower thoughts while I play and let muscle memory take over and if I start actively thinking about my hands, they feel weird.
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I've tried lifting my hands above the keyboard, which greatly improves my accuracy and speed, however I keep missing keys or double hitting them. which usually ends me up with an even worse score.
When you lift your hands you have to use muscles you weren't using before so it's normal to have some issues at first. You should be fine if you keep your forearms and hands parallel to the ground at a height in which your fingers reach the keys from their neutral slightly curved position.

Another thing you should try to work with is chair height regardless of your chosen posture.
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My skill has always improved slowly, but I've either done ghkl or fgjk, depending on the keyboard (if it resgisters a quad)
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I'm weird cause I use WROP... Never been able to play without a key between my left index & middle.
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"Kind of like when you think about your tongue in your mouth and it feels really big and can't find a good position for it"
I know exactly what u mean. If the tip of my tongue isn't pressing against my right front tooth while i'm playing I lose my concentration.

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Old 03-4-2018, 03:09 AM   #13
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My left elbow rests on the desk beside the keyboard, my right upper arm is wedged in between my body and the edge of the desk
Even when on a couch and typing right now my left arm is angled beside the laptop and my right arm is resting on my tummy
Don't know which situation caused this positioning
So, if I can get comfortable with this kanji of arms, anything is viable
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My left elbow rests on the desk beside the keyboard, my right upper arm is wedged in between my body and the edge of the desk
Even when on a couch and typing right now my left arm is angled beside the laptop and my right arm is resting on my tummy
Don't know which situation caused this positioning
So, if I can get comfortable with this kanji of arms, anything is viable
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dont forget the fact that you use middle and ring finger lol

also regarding hand pos, my saying is always: wrists up, ass up boi
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I lay on a bed looking like an L with my laptop on my bed using ASKL lol. if im out, I use a table
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I use the same combo key set, if ya been playin 4 years, then try using a different key set, you'll find ur good hand positioning later on ig
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Thanks for the tips guys! I actually think I can make some minor adjustments now and see how this works for a while. Never really thought of proper hand placement and posture.

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its all preference my dude, but what i did is pull off all the keys except the ones i use to play so i can easily move my setup wherev whenev. taking all the keys off helps with not getting ur fingers trapped between keys as well.

recently i've been playing around at the top of the kb stuff like QWOP, ERIO, 1290 ect. It feels more comfy then AS;' imo bc ur wrists are quite as angled. I tend to slip forward not backward on my keys so playing at the top helps control that somewhat.

Also what helps me when my fingers are just feeling hella weird is to smoke lol then i forget all about my hands and just hit the keys to the music.

A staggered setup might feel more comfy to u... like AZ/' instead of AS;' personally I could never get used to it but some ppl like it.

gl meng, if u play everyday after awhile it should come naturally to u. i think.
haha bloody oath man, I have had moments that smoking made me kinda zone out and let muscle memory do its work, however I end up having trouble reading faster patterns sometimes. or staring at a screen of upscrolling arrows without blinking just feels weird and trippy
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I used to use sdkl but along with using wasd on other games my s, d, and sometimes a key are pretty f'ed. Use zx./ now.

I used to "I can't get a comfortable spot for my right hand at all", all the time, but since I started using my laptop I've had to deal with awkward positions a lot more. I still sometimes get the feeling but I find it helps if you really try not to think about your hands while you're playing. Kind of like when you think about your tongue in your mouth and it feels really big and can't find a good position for it, or like when you start overthinking your breathing pattern and it feels like you're breathing manually. I usually just have shower thoughts while I play and let muscle memory take over and if I start actively thinking about my hands, they feel weird.
aye mate it's literally like this. I think I've always kinda had that annoying overthinking of things. I even get the moments where midway into a song my pinky starts feeling weird curved and I try to adjust it to a comfortable position whilst trying to focus on the song. often resulting in boos.
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I even get the moments where midway into a song my pinky starts feeling weird curved
Yes, exactly. Freaken pinky man. I'll curl my left so that it's curled but sticking up slightly above my other fingers while I'm playing, and then I'll realize that I'm holding it in this awkward position really hard and try to relax it a little. Then it just feels out of place and I can't focus on anything else for the rest of the song.
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Yes, exactly. Freaken pinky man. I'll curl my left so that it's curled but sticking up slightly above my other fingers while I'm playing, and then I'll realize that I'm holding it in this awkward position really hard and try to relax it a little. Then it just feels out of place and I can't focus on anything else for the rest of the song.
Hahaha I literally have to stop playing whenever this occurs. I just can't ignore it. Especially when your pinky touches a key ever so slightly, and you're reminded of the fact it's just dangling there akwardly. completely thrown of for the rest of the song.
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I was going with df l; until today because my l; hand always feels uncomfortable so im trying df 89(num pad) feels funny but a little more comfortable.
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