Songs of the Week (May 11, 2012)

[jimerax]

Originally Posted by Silvuh

Go ahead and remove my file and upload something from someone else for the week's releases. With the response being this unfavorable and hi19 doing a new chart with the original .mp3, there's no reason why this should be here.

Well if posts in this thread are the only reason you REALLY don't need to take them serious. If you see problems in the file/song itself and really want it to be removed then we will.

[justin_ator]

Yo Silvuh, I actually do like most of your files but that FOTBB felt so empty to me that I literally could believe if someone told me you stepped it as a skeleton and then decided you didn't feel like filling parts in later on and just sent it as was.

I don't mean any disrespect and I'm not going to whine about the file, as I understand it was meant to be an easier one.

I think the main reason you're receiving so much negative feedback is because everyone was expecting a hard, accurately-stepped file similar to the song that is already in-game.

Try not to let the feedback get to you, haters gonna hate.

edit: also, don't mind it staying as long as the judge team/administration would be cool with a v3

[iironiic]

Just played FOTBBv2 just to see the commotion... Although understepped, it is a great file for beginners/novice players. If Passage D [Light] isn't receiving this much dislike, I can't see why FOTBBv2 shouldn't either.

There are going to be some songs that are intentionally understepped simply for the beginner/novice population of FFR. No need to be so against the file.

[TC_Halogen]

oh yeah, I wanted to drop in - I really liked FotBB v2, haha. It was great for a 7, the little blips of 16ths kept me on my toes.

Plasmatextor was fun, lost the AAA at 2450 first run, oops <_<;
Coffin was tricky, a few 16th jumps with jacks connecting some 32nd bursts, but nothing too unbearable.
UMAD? was great overall, my favorite of the week. Nice job, Mario.

[hi19hi19]

I don't think FotBB v2 should be taken out, I just think it deserves the difficult chart that people were expecting to go alongside it. Doesn't have to be one or the other.
Would actually make a nice skill token req, AAA v2 to get v3

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Passage D light was the good one though, why would we hate on it

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Passage D light was the good one though, why would we hate on it

implying heavy was bad

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

implying heavy was bad

Middie is just being a cock (as usual)


Why he isn't banned already is beyond me tbh

[qqwref]

Originally Posted by iironiic

Just played FOTBBv2 just to see the commotion... Although understepped, it is a great file for beginners/novice players. If Passage D [Light] isn't receiving this much dislike, I can't see why FOTBBv2 shouldn't either.

As the guy who stepped Passage D [Light] I actually see a lot of difference here. In FotBB, the main focus of the song is the infamously fast foreground melody, and the other part of the track is only really there to emphasize that melody. So when you have a chart that just steps the emphasis stuff, it feels empty and unnatural. On the other hand, Passage D is actually a slower, more relaxed-feeling song, and to me it feels more like there is a slow melody with fast and intricate DnB stuff added on top. The melody can stand on its own, and because of the relaxed feel of the song it doesn't feel wrong to just play the melody at its natural speed. In fact, I kinda find the file to be like playing the piano part in a duet, next to a drum virtuoso.

tl;dr: The part Silvuh stepped in FotBB v2 accentuates the main melody and doesn't really make sense without it; the part I stepped in Passage D [Light] is the main melody, and is a natural part of the song despite the super complex drum layered on top of it.

[iironiic]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Passage D light was the good one though, why would we hate on it

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

implying heavy was bad

Lol maybe I should just give up stepping.

Originally Posted by qqwref

As the guy who stepped Passage D [Light] I actually see a lot of difference here. In FotBB, the main focus of the song is the infamously fast foreground melody, and the other part of the track is only really there to emphasize that melody. So when you have a chart that just steps the emphasis stuff, it feels empty and unnatural. On the other hand, Passage D is actually a slower, more relaxed-feeling song, and to me it feels more like there is a slow melody with fast and intricate DnB stuff added on top. The melody can stand on its own, and because of the relaxed feel of the song it doesn't feel wrong to just play the melody at its natural speed. In fact, I kinda find the file to be like playing the piano part in a duet, next to a drum virtuoso.

tl;dr: The part Silvuh stepped in FotBB v2 accentuates the main melody and doesn't really make sense without it; the part I stepped in Passage D [Light] is the main melody, and is a natural part of the song despite the super complex drum layered on top of it.

Thank you for that response. I can now see why people aren't too happy about it. Personally, I think it's fine but I guess it all boils down to preference

[qqwref]

Originally Posted by iironiic

Lol maybe I should just give up stepping.

I think YMIA was saying, basically, "Middie, are you seriously implying that [Heavy] was bad? lol". FWIW, [Heavy] is an awesome chart.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

Middie is just being a cock (as usual)


Why he isn't banned already is beyond me tbh

No really heavy just isn't fun and has some derpy imo sections. (I also have said somewhere I thought heavy was bad, this shouldn't be a surprise really.)

And lol sometimes I wonder why myself. Kinda. lol

And Wilson don't quit stepping. Just think more about making your patterns less aids and stop using uneeded color ****s, step shorter songs and just over all try to make it funner. Then you'd be golden.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

And Wilson don't quit stepping. Just think more about making your patterns less aids and stop using uneeded color ****s, step shorter songs and just over all try to make it funner. Then you'd be golden.

I love how that's what I like the most about his files lol

[justin_ator]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

step shorter songs

+1

[sticklydude]

when middie hates on your file, you know it's good.

[j-rodd123]

solid week of releases here.

plasmatextor and deep breath were both cool, well flowing fmos that make them feel less difficult because the stepping is so great.

UMAD? was a fun 9, cool song and cool steps.

fotbb v2 was pretty cool too, nothing wrong with it, great for more inexperienced players.

coffin was probably my least favourite because the song was shit, steps weren't bad, it just wasn't too fun to play for me.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by sticklydude

when middie hates on your file, you know it's good.

No. If Middie hates your chart chances are he thinks there is something wrong with it or a section flat out makes no sense.

Also you mad should be a 10, I dunno who thought this was a 9. lol

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by sticklydude

when middie hates on your file, you know it's good.

When middie hates your file, that means someone whose opinion doesn't matter in the slightest hates your file

aka nothing changes at all

[Jake Ferguson]

Making dickish comments about someone "being a dick" probably isn't going to help any, everyone's opinions matter

Anyways, FOTBB v2 was very fun for what it was, a 7. To have an easier version it needs to be watered down if the original version is frantic and has more notes. Its kinda lame to say that people don't like it because they were expecting something harder, since it's really easy to see that file isn't hard when the difficulty is right next to the name. Different versions of the same song shouldn't be similar anyways. I thought it was great.

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Also you mad should be a 10, I dunno who thought this was a 9. lol

Agreed, the hard parts in this are the bursts and the jacks, and the jacks are comparable in difficulty to Fei Longer which was changed to a VC. No matter what difficulty though, it was an extremely fun song and kinda tough, at least for me anyways

Haven't played Coffin or the FMOs yet...

[DarknessXoXLight]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

No. If Middie hates your chart chances are he thinks there is someth-

That's great and I'ma let you finish, but Middie, please take your own stepping advice before you give it away so willingly~


Wilson, I've enjoyed every single one of your files so don't stop stepping and don't be discouraged.