TWG CXXII - Welcome to Disboard~

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Viccica

I'd also like a detailed explanation as you why you chose who you chose to seer, Backpack.

well it's kind of stupid, I mean honestly I wasn't expecting to make it to today

I actually thought that James May was a wolf after the Plop flip, I asked a question about this yesterday which was completely ignored, but given how the night played out I've changed my mind about him

and after that, I just picked someone I was suspicious of and interrogated a bit, Red Blaster, I don't think I had any other reason for that (I don't know how people are saying "everyone thought he was green yesterday", that seems more like 20/20 hindsight)

[DaBackpack]

anyway

if (big if) you subscribe to my theory, then that would suggest a few things

James May is green

the wolves probably still want to carry out the lynch on me still so they are still in control of today's lynch. however, the stakes are not as high, since they can just kill me tonight. but lynching me prevents a lynch on a red so that helps them

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I actually thought that James May was a wolf after the Plop flip, I asked a question about this yesterday which was completely ignored, but given how the night played out I've changed my mind about him

and after that, I just picked someone I was suspicious of and interrogated a bit, Red Blaster, I don't think I had any other reason for that (I don't know how people are saying "everyone thought he was green yesterday", that seems more like 20/20 hindsight)

Considerng there was no night talking, what do you mean "how the night played out made you change your mind on [james may]"

Just the fact that you survived made you change you mind? Seems like a pretty poor reason to me.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Considerng there was no night talking, what do you mean "how the night played out made you change your mind on [james may]"

Just the fact that you survived made you change you mind? Seems like a pretty poor reason to me.

The fact that the wolves let me live even after I was "supposed" to seer James May suggests they didn't see me as a threat.

And then the fact that I thought James May was suspicious didn't make sense after I thought about it:

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

well between Plop and James May, I thought that a flip would give us info about the other

but actually I think I was wrong about that, or rather it was imprecise

I'm gonna have to check how James May interacted with plop also

like a flip on james may would tell us about plop I think, but idk if the flip on Plop tells us about James May

Otherwise, that's all I have about him

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

after that, I just picked someone I was suspicious of and interrogated a bit, Red Blaster, I don't think I had any other reason for that (I don't know how people are saying "everyone thought he was green yesterday", that seems more like 20/20 hindsight)

As there is a ton of multi-quoting going on in this post, I'll spoiler it all.
This is every quote referencing me being green, or at least on a no lynch list, from the time you claimed to the lynch of Pop.

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

i'm high-strung because classes tomorrow and a ton of projects to coplete, I should have known that this might be a problem, and the psycho post tipped me over

i'm tired of arguing like this, i'm a cop, just let me die at night now

James May in case I'm not back

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Red I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to today because he's new to this and the self-righteousness in his posts reminds me of somebody who doesn't get that it's not enough to know that you yourself are a villager but that you have to demonstrate it to the rest of the players as well.

So, putting Red aside for now I'd like to lynch out of psycho, manti, or james. Out of the three I'd rather see James go since he's had the most interactions with others out of the three and the way that he apologized for his posts to jrodd without acknowledging why they were stupid or trying to defend against the suspicions and accusations against him strikes me as him trying to please the masses rather than thinking and reflecting on his play. There's no confidence, and he keeps unvoting after making any sort of push. It's hard to find a reason for James the townie to act so skittish, but not so much for James the wolf.

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I'll expand more later but I don't want to lynch any of the following people (reiterating)
V
Fic (still ehhh)
James
New Guy
DBP
j-rodd is back to ehhhhh, I'm probably paying more attention to him than I should. Might clear Kayla for today as well but its not looking good so far.

In that quote I'd be the "New Guy"

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

People I will lynch
Plopadop
Psychoangel
Charu

People who are no longer villa leans and I am starting to feel comfortable lunching
Fiction
Jrodd

People I probs wouldn't lynch
James may
Manti
Red blaster

People jury is out on
The sunfan
I think there's another player too

Originally Posted by Charu

Oh hey, I guess it's 5.5 hours or somethin' until day ends.

Uuuuuummmmm...

I don't think James or Red Blaster are wolves. They're my strongest human leans. Definitely of course leaving backpack alone until something crazy happens.

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

I could argue that Red would be close to James in terms of the information that his flip would give, but like I said in an earlier post I want to give him the benefit of the doubt for being a new player, at least for this phase.

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Red Blaster is a bro. unvote

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I know I got on red blaster a little bit but I'm neutral on him, I was missing some context

So yeah..having gone back through all of that, I feel like your choice to investigate me was a utter waste. 6/12 including yourself at the time, had listed me as a non suspect.
Please explain how I became one after the fact?

[YoshL]

Originally Posted by James May

@ Yoshl: Can the mafia traitor kill as well or is the role treated as a vanilla role and can't do anything at night?

Mafia traitor is able to kill only once the 2 other mafia are deceased. otherwise, they have no night abilities, and a 1-shot bulletproof. The 1-shot would go away if they were recruited

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

So yeah..having gone back through all of that, I feel like your choice to investigate me was a utter waste. 6/12 including yourself at the time, had listed me as a non suspect.
Please explain how I became one after the fact?

Well first of all, being on a no-lynch list does not mean they think you're green. hell just look at where I am now
It just means that that specific person thinks there are better targets for a D0 lynch. For instance, strong red leans.

(And for the record, I said "I was neutral on you". That is not a clear. There was evidence supporting both narratives.)

Let's leave out James May for now. If you were in my shoes, who would you pick to seer?

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Well first of all, being on a no-lynch list does not mean they think you're green. hell just look at where I am now
It just means that that specific person thinks there are better targets for a D0 lynch. For instance, strong red leans.

(And for the record, I said "I was neutral on you". That is not a clear. There was evidence supporting both narratives.)

Let's leave out James May for now. If you were in my shoes, who would you pick to seer?

I'm not saying the opinions clear me, or prove I'm green, just saying that I feel your potential only seer was squandered on someone that the majority felt wasn't red. And you seriously would waste what could be your only seer on a "neutral" instead of someone you felt more of a red vibe from?

Your poor choice of seer makes it almost seem as though you are protecting the woofs.

If you're asking who I would've viewed then: Manti
After Pop's death Manti was my prime suspect as the instant I saw Pop was villa, my suspicions of V and Manti were raised due to what looked like in hindsight a wolfy tunnel on Pop.

[dAnceguy117]

Red Blaster: at least one of those things you quoted was a "pass for now," mine was a joke as I had read basically nothing up to that point, and one of those was from Backpack. I don't think there was a consensus to clear you by any means.

I'm giving the Backpack claim a pretty good chance of being real and wouldn't lynch there today.

[dAnceguy117]

No Fiction lynch today huh? Time to shift gears.

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Well I have nothing to give you with 20 minutes left. Lynch me or don't. What's the reason for your hesitation?

Originally Posted by Charu

Because I'm not entirely convinced there's a red here. I really am not.

And it sucks, because your entrance and mention of the two is making me think that this could be possibility two villagers.

Charu for weird lack of progression and unwillingness to push d1. After soft defending the two lead wagons, you were reluctant to lynch me, yet today you're still referring to me as being wolfy based on the same read you had d1. Only new thing you've said since is it's sketchy that Backpack is still alive. Not gonna lynch him today though. Might lynch you.

[dAnceguy117]

YOU WANTED A FIGHT CHARU YOu GOT IT

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by James May

People I don't want to lynch today are: Charu, sunfan, dance (primarily for info and to fully read him after today), Manti and RB

Anyhow, I think if we fully look through the interactions from Day 0 then we can MOST likely find a wolf within the kitb that was between plop and I. I do have a feeling that at least one wolf was in either of the wagons.

If that's your read, not killing RB, Manti or myself doesn't make sense as we were 3/4 votes on plop (with V being the 4th)

[thesunfan]

I want to unvote but I don't want to displease the almighty FictionJunction

but I also want Manti to claim a role or die

[thesunfan]

I think I'm gonna go with the latter

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Red Blaster: at least one of those things you quoted was a "pass for now," mine was a joke as I had read basically nothing up to that point, and one of those was from Backpack. I don't think there was a consensus to clear you by any means.

I'm giving the Backpack claim a pretty good chance of being real and wouldn't lynch there today.

That's exactly what a fellow wolf would say in this scenario.
Almost like a "Let my wolf false-claimed-cop buddy continue to give out false reads and misdirect everyone." type of thing.

If DBP is a wolf, the wolves are going to try to keep him around as long as possible under the false pretenses that he's a cop who can then give out false info to influence the town to vote in favor of the wolfs.

Actually at this point, I'm almost certain if we keep DBP around we'll end up lynching another town tonight.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Charu for weird lack of progression and unwillingness to push d1. After soft defending the two lead wagons, you were reluctant to lynch me, yet today you're still referring to me as being wolfy based on the same read you had d1. Only new thing you've said since is it's sketchy that Backpack is still alive. Not gonna lynch him today though. Might lynch you.

Yep.

I already gave my reasons and I just mentioned how I didn't like how you came in when you replacd and seemed like you didn't particularly care of the two people on the lynch list last day phase.

It's all I got, but I feel it, Mr. Krabs.

[thesunfan]

ok fine officially being a wimp
vic for literally nothing more than a placeholder

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

That's exactly what a fellow wolf would say in this scenario.
Almost like a "Let my wolf false-claimed-cop buddy continue to give out false reads and misdirect everyone." type of thing.

If DBP is a wolf, the wolves are going to try to keep him around as long as possible under the false pretenses that he's a cop who can then give out false info to influence the town to vote in favor of the wolfs.

Actually at this point, I'm almost certain if we keep DBP around we'll end up lynching another town tonight.

And if Backpack is a human, the wolves are going to try to keep him around until town feels forced to lynch him. What's your point?

There are 3 wolves. Even if Backpack is a wolf, there are 2 others alive.

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by Charu

Yep.

I already gave my reasons and I just mentioned how I didn't like how you came in when you replacd and seemed like you didn't particularly care of the two people on the lynch list last day phase.

It's all I got, but I feel it, Mr. Krabs.

I replaced in with an hour left in the phase, and there were two other potential lynch candidates along with myself. Why would I try to save both of them and swing votes onto either me or someone I knew nothing about? Do you really think what I did is wolfy?

Why haven't you voted?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Why haven't you voted?

Err... does the phase end tonight or tomorrow night? YoshL said 48 hours, but it's listed at Saturday 11:59 PM.

If it's tonight, sure, I'll put my vote in.

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

I replaced in with an hour left in the phase, and there were two other potential lynch candidates along with myself. Why would I try to save both of them and swing votes onto either me or someone I knew nothing about? Do you really think what I did is wolfy?

Yes.

I will keep on saying, over and over and over, dAnceygaia1337, I did not like how you approached the thread and were seemingly uninterested at the two lynch candidates

Forgot how you approached? Here you go.

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

So James and Plop are both on the chopping block for neutral tone and junk like that, right? I'm not about to try to move things in any other direction in the next 45 minutes. Anyone wanna try defending someone?

Wow, look how much you cared about those two.