6 Key FFR - Page 2

**MP3 player** · 08-2-2009, 04:54 PM

+111111111

I've been dyeing to try Solo because I don't have SM. xD

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 08-2-2009, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [TeRa]

FFR needs to move away from SM, not become it.

Exactly. This is basically making it right next to SM. Keep these SM ideas away from FFR, not try to make FFR more like it. If people wanna play 6 arrows, go download SM and play it.

stargroup · 08-2-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127

Exactly. This is basically making it right next to SM. Keep these SM ideas away from FFR, not try to make FFR more like it. If people wanna play 6 arrows, go download SM and play it.

Q: If we do this, aren't we getting closer and closer to StepMania?
A: No, the different ways in which FFR and SM register keys means that 6 key files on FFR will be very very different than SM 6 key files. For example, files like BCMP3's quell and Fysx's Speed Japan would never get on FFR because the brackets are too intense to hit accurately.

read please

**makdaddy** · 08-2-2009, 05:48 PM

Pleas read this post, I actually put time into this post...kinda

Quote:

Originally Posted by stargroup

- lack of easy files

This, all the solo files (6 key) I've played have been crazy and overstepped to me, even if they aren't overstepped, they throw you into the fire, there aren't any introduction solo files. I like this idea.

Quote:

- Push player's reading skills
I'm pretty confident when I say that few will immediately catch on to 6 key as soon as they start trying it. It'll be a while before they get used to reading it. Once they do, they'll realize that they have to push their reading limits to the max.

This too, it'll add a new dimension to FFR, it can make hard files fun again instead of dumpstreams and crazy overstepped lame breakbeat noise files.

Quote:

For example, with 4 key, it's difficult to make jumpstreams with doubles and especially triples, but in 6 key, you have so much room that double streams can be varied and completely aired, no jacks, and still have enough room to throw in triples and quads (whoa quads).

Again, this. Having 6 keys to worry about will make files that're slow seem hard. Playing a slow piano file with a bunch of chords would be fun with more than 2 keys to hit, instead of lame and boring/slow. It'll make even slow natured/easy songs fun again with all the key possibilities.

Quote:

- Same judging system as the FFR1 batch, but with different judges who have experience and knowledge with 6 key files because it's different (I guess I'll do judging if we can't find qualified people.)

This, because we need new and fresh views/takes on files. Files seem to be getting relatively the same nowadays. Maybe even take Tass out of the judging process...OMG Treason WHAT? OMG omg OMG

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- Noteskin should be something similar to notebar or orbular.

This, arrow directions are extremely difficult to learn 6 key on, needs new noteskin, something like the Disturbed FFR.

As a matter of fact, can't we just use the Disturbed FFRock engine? and just expand upon that? which leads me into...what Patashu said

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Originally Posted by Patashu

If the 6Key FFR is in a separate game altogether I'd really like the level selection system to be revamped to have multiple or arbitrary numbers of charts for the same mp3. That's one thing that's always bugged me about FFR: people making a hard chart for a song lock it out from being stepped any other way.

I love this idea, though it seems like just copying SM with Heavy/light/standard/oni it seems different when applied to FFR, making v2's and v3's that are extremely hard to push through judging is getting old.

EDIT:

FFR Disturbed:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/Disturbed.php

Zestorax · 08-2-2009, 05:51 PM

+1 for this idea

6 Key FFR would be the ****

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 08-2-2009, 05:54 PM

The whole idea in general is taking it from Stepmania. Just because it wont play exactly the same doesnt mean the feature/idea itself isnt like SM. And like I saw coming, this makes people want to have more noteskins which is not FFR at all, all SM. FFR shouldnt need more noteskins since its FFR there for you use FFR noteskin.

**NekoGon** · 08-2-2009, 05:56 PM

support

**Patashu** · 08-2-2009, 05:57 PM

it's not really copying stepmania though. basically every rhythm game that isn't ffr has multiple charts per song

**Sprite-** · 08-2-2009, 05:59 PM

Too much like SM...although I won't lie - I'd play it a lot more often.
So I guess support. It won't happen, though.

**makdaddy** · 08-2-2009, 06:02 PM

TO People complaining about FFR becoming SM:

Where is FFR gonna go? Huh? Can you tell me?

Stepmania has pretty much done everything a DDR simulator can do, so what new is there to create?

All the speedmods, effects, key mapping, etc. is already copying SM but doesn't it seem new when applied to FFR?

FFR can't go anywhere without "copying" something else, everything has already been done, but it is different when applied to FFR because FFR is different than all the other games!

Unless FFR does something, it will slowly die, nothing new comes out to keep people here.

EDIT:

also, what Patashu said.

**awein999** · 08-2-2009, 06:07 PM

yeah support +1 I was going to be a wise ass and say 8 KEY!!! But I read the bottom line of the first post lol.

bluguerrilla · 08-2-2009, 06:11 PM

I'd be more likely to try 6 key on FFR than I would on SM.

I'm actually trying to step a song (maybe two songs) on solo right now and it's tough and I'm sure they'll both suck ass nuggets.

**xingyguy** · 08-2-2009, 06:22 PM

+1 support.

OneHandNow · 08-2-2009, 06:22 PM

Maybe we should just switch over to DJMax style HUH?

4 Key, 5 Key, 6 Key, 7 Key, 8 Key YAH.

+1 support btw

**-paexaea-** · 08-2-2009, 06:37 PM

I support this. It's not a bad idea.

And to everyone complaining about it, think about it. FFR needs some progress besides new songs. A new feature would probably reignite peoples old passion and competitive feelings for the game. Honestly, you can only play a couple of songs before they get boring.

ClAsSiC_RoCkEr · 08-2-2009, 06:42 PM

this needs to happen :\

probably won't though (but here's hoping).

stargroup · 08-2-2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan_Bsk81127

The whole idea in general is taking it from Stepmania. Just because it wont play exactly the same doesnt mean the feature/idea itself isnt like SM. And like I saw coming, this makes people want to have more noteskins which is not FFR at all, all SM. FFR shouldnt need more noteskins since its FFR there for you use FFR noteskin.

you don't need more than one noteskin, but you certainly aren't going to use arrows. it makes no sense

also, did you ever wonder why ffr tries so hard to not be like sm but sm never tries to be like ffr

maybe sm is the exact same game, just miles ahead of ffr

and, if you do think this is a problem, WHY NOT LET ME TAKE CARE OF IT. I have enough knowledge and experience to steer ffr clear of stepmania's way and still raise the bar in most everything. but, no one ever gives me a chance

in short, stop b*tching. all your points have been addressed, I'm sure of it

EDIT: come to think of it, ffrock is a great base for 6 key to get started

**remedy1502** · 08-2-2009, 07:23 PM

Yes please. +1 support

**Ghakimx** · 08-2-2009, 08:25 PM

Sure why not.

BTW, 6 Key mashing, woo hoo.

**devonin** · 08-2-2009, 08:31 PM

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WHY NOT LET ME TAKE CARE OF IT

So code up the engine, get it working, and then see whether or not the company is interested in the implementation?

08-2-2009, 04:54 PM	#21
MP3 player FFR Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MP3 land Age: 29 Posts: 452	Re: 6 Key FFR +111111111 I've been dyeing to try Solo because I don't have SM. xD __________________

08-2-2009, 05:51 PM	#25
Zestorax FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia Age: 33 Posts: 121	Re: 6 Key FFR +1 for this idea 6 Key FFR would be the ****

08-2-2009, 05:54 PM	#26
Plan_Bsk81127 snooches Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,420	Re: 6 Key FFR The whole idea in general is taking it from Stepmania. Just because it wont play exactly the same doesnt mean the feature/idea itself isnt like SM. And like I saw coming, this makes people want to have more noteskins which is not FFR at all, all SM. FFR shouldnt need more noteskins since its FFR there for you use FFR noteskin.

08-2-2009, 05:56 PM	#27
NekoGon щ(ﾟДﾟщ) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Malaysia Age: 33 Posts: 2,709	Re: 6 Key FFR support __________________

08-2-2009, 05:57 PM	#28
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: 6 Key FFR it's not really copying stepmania though. basically every rhythm game that isn't ffr has multiple charts per song __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

08-2-2009, 05:59 PM	#29
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: 6 Key FFR Too much like SM...although I won't lie - I'd play it a lot more often. So I guess support. It won't happen, though.

08-2-2009, 06:02 PM	#30
makdaddy FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Age: 32 Posts: 1,688	Re: 6 Key FFR TO People complaining about FFR becoming SM: Where is FFR gonna go? Huh? Can you tell me? Stepmania has pretty much done everything a DDR simulator can do, so what new is there to create? All the speedmods, effects, key mapping, etc. is already copying SM but doesn't it seem new when applied to FFR? FFR can't go anywhere without "copying" something else, everything has already been done, but it is different when applied to FFR because FFR is different than all the other games! Unless FFR does something, it will slowly die, nothing new comes out to keep people here. EDIT: also, what Patashu said.

08-2-2009, 06:11 PM	#32
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: 6 Key FFR I'd be more likely to try 6 key on FFR than I would on SM. I'm actually trying to step a song (maybe two songs) on solo right now and it's tough and I'm sure they'll both suck ass nuggets. __________________

08-2-2009, 06:22 PM	#33
xingyguy Bagel Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: california Posts: 266	Re: 6 Key FFR +1 support. __________________ My latest simfiles: Xenobius: http://www.stepmania.com/download.ph...Xenobius.smzip Coward Killing Time: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=38838 Minute: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=35958 Chaoz Impact: http://www.stepmania.com/download.ph...ozImpact.smzip

08-2-2009, 06:22 PM	#34
OneHandNow Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,305	Re: 6 Key FFR Maybe we should just switch over to DJMax style HUH? 4 Key, 5 Key, 6 Key, 7 Key, 8 Key YAH. +1 support btw

08-2-2009, 06:37 PM	#35
-paexaea- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: skjandlurkelandia² Age: 33 Posts: 4,605	Re: 6 Key FFR I support this. It's not a bad idea. And to everyone complaining about it, think about it. FFR needs some progress besides new songs. A new feature would probably reignite peoples old passion and competitive feelings for the game. Honestly, you can only play a couple of songs before they get boring. __________________ See you, Space Cowboy.

08-2-2009, 06:42 PM	#36
ClAsSiC_RoCkEr FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SHL POP Age: 35 Posts: 375	Re: 6 Key FFR this needs to happen :\ probably won't though (but here's hoping). __________________

08-2-2009, 07:23 PM	#38
remedy1502 remederpin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 31 Posts: 4,884	Re: 6 Key FFR Yes please. +1 support

08-2-2009, 08:25 PM	#39
Ghakimx Cutie&Handshaking Sounds Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Xingapore Posts: 1,594	Re: 6 Key FFR Sure why not. BTW, 6 Key mashing, woo hoo. __________________ I AM ASHAMED OF MY STUPIDITY AND MUST COMMIT SEPPUKU. FORGIVE ME, FFR. Ninjas NEVER die. Now on a 30 kill streak.

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