TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Duk3star

Does knowing FG and freezin arent w/w change anything?

Def fucks with me.

As much as i still believe the Haku read my world is absolutely flawed so I gotta figure that out.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Duk3star

Is a FG/DBP world a thing?

The only reason to lean this is DBP spending time twice that phase defending the slot bit I think Funny vote doesn't support this.

I kmow she busses like alot, but that's a big bus for no reason

[Duk3star]

If FG is town I think gradient looks worse and FF looks better.

[MixMasterLar]

Ok being too rude to guest.

Leave questions and they'll be answered tomorrow probably

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by Duk3star

Same question to you gradient, thoughts on DBP?

I'd agree with what mellon said about him being seemingly opportunistic. Lot of 'do this/don't do that' statemtents extremely close to eod to the point where not much can be thrown around about them before a rapid decision has to be made.

Originally Posted by Gradiant

also currently tinfoiling pretty hard that rb and dbp are both wolfin and rb only brought dbp up as possible lynch to test the waters

Originally Posted by roundbox

he's not even responding to me
something tells me that the limited time will prevent him from responding to me at all this phase

Not really a response I was expecting to throwing this pairing out there, just ignored his implication in it entirely and kept it solely targeted on dbp

Originally Posted by roundbox

do you really believe we've got two wolves on the chopping block tonight?
this just seems really weird for freezin to do right before the end
it just seems too obvious and awkward

Originally Posted by roundbox

hey at least we're mindmelding


and gradiant I'm just gonna vote freezin, I think going to a KITB is a silly idea

did you end up believing any amount that you were going for possible scum here, or were you just voting for someone you thought was town because the dbp you had left wasn't going anywhere?

[Duk3star]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Ok being too rude to guest.

Leave questions and they'll be answered tomorrow probably

Thanks for answering me while you were here I'm gonna pass out and think this over.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You and Round where preaching it.
I think there's more then a passing chance it was opportunistic

False. I was not preaching it, the only one there that was truly going on about dbp lynch was roundbox. My read on dbp up to this point was town, and all I had was a tinfoil post about roundbox and dbp wolfing together. One vote there among the other one votes around that time doesn't do much in terms of passing chances.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by Duk3star

If wagons are locked and v/v it potentially looks good for DBP though right?

You're talking about the right person here right? Otherwise I don't know what you're asking.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by Duk3star

I kinda liked storms response to me about their only being 1 mafia KP.

Whenever you talk about the kills like this it really feels like you know more than you're letting on about. The specific use of "mafia kp" the fact you said 2 nks earlier. Im honestly real sus if the wolf nk was blocked and there was a vigi, so they no kill tonight to check for a second shot. Or if the wolves got blocked somehow. Is anyone known to make odd nks as a wolf?

[Duk3star]

Originally Posted by storn42

Whenever you talk about the kills like this it really feels like you know more than you're letting on about. The specific use of "mafia kp" the fact you said 2 nks earlier. Im honestly real sus if the wolf nk was blocked and there was a vigi, so they no kill tonight to check for a second shot. Or if the wolves got blocked somehow. Is anyone known to make odd nks as a wolf?

My homesite doesnt allow mafia to holster and I assumed it was mafia KP because there wasnt any claimed vigi and there was only 1 kp.

[fatfuck42]

Boo on the mislynch, but w00t on no nightkill!

Still not sure what to make of dap and I don't have the time to investigate at the moment, but if he ends up being a wolf then I'm pretty certain round is a wolf too. Him bringing up dap when he did would be a great strategic long-vision wolf play ("Why would I bring up my partner there? What would I have to gain from that?" the gain is being able to use that argument!)

Funny and storn are still town as far as I'm concerned. Switching their votes there shows me their priority is on lynching wolves and not impression management.

No longer townreading angel. Before I was reading her frustration and longposting as a righteous townie fighting to prove their innocence, but given freezin's flip and my read on storn, that frustration can just as easily come from a wolf who knows they've been caught.

Similarly, no longer scumreading duk. His lines of inquiry and conclusions seem legitimate and logical, and his observation "Lar is talking to me like I'm a villager" was a really solid one to make. Of course, a capable wolf can act like that too, and duk clearly has experience playing this game, so I'm putting him in null over town.

Gradiant giving funny shit for voting/tunneling on lar so early in the phase seems opportunistic. She's tried to convince lar (the one who's been pushing the hardest to get her lynched) with her words and has obviously failed to get through, so now she uses the power of her vote to show she's serious.

[fatfuck42]

As for teams, gradiant/angel/[round,raeko,dap,duk] or round/dap/[angel,raeko,duk,gradiant] is where I'm at.

[storn42]

Day 1

Originally Posted by the sun fan

votecount:
bolth (1)- Haku
freezin (1)- fatfuck
Shadow (1)- roundbox
Lar (1)- mellon
storn (1)- Shadow
roundbox (2)- Xiz, psycho
Xiz (5)- DBP, storn, Freezin, Gradiant, bolth
raeko (1)- Lar

Day 2

Originally Posted by the sun fan

votecount:
freezin (5)- psycho, fatfuck, Gradiant, DBP, roundbox
funny (3)- Lar, raeko, Duk3
dabackpack (3)- funny, freezin, storn

Vote count colorized

[storn42]

To state the obvious, gradiant and DBP are on both wagons who lynched townies.

[fatfuck42]

Putting a pressure vote on dap, partly so he'll be more inclined to show up and post but also so he remains a relevant topic. Considering EoD, I think we gotta figure him out.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by fatfuck42

As for teams, gradiant/angel/[round,raeko,dap,duk] or round/dap/[angel,raeko,duk,gradiant] is where I'm at.

again looking at the D1 wagons, gradiant makes a lot of sense for a 3rd wolf if we are in a world of round/DBP since he would have jumped from me (a dying wagon) to Xiz, in a world where staying on me could put roundbox in close danger of being lynched. I'm not sure how strong i feel about us being in that world, but i do think its quite possible.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by storn42

again looking at the D1 wagons, gradiant makes a lot of sense for a 3rd wolf if we are in a world of round/DBP since he would have jumped from me (a dying wagon) to Xiz, in a world where staying on me could put roundbox in close danger of being lynched. I'm not sure how strong i feel about us being in that world, but i do think its quite possible.

and to add/reiterate, gradiant D1 vote swap as a wolf doesn't make sense to me unless RB is his partner.

[storn42]

I dont think there is a world where gradiant is a wolf and roundbox isn't

[storn42]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Thinking on storn's vote switches, they feel like they make sense assuming he's town believing both wagons are town. I'd like his response on why there was a pause in thought between him voting fg and then the later switch to psycho though

because i was thinking. EoD is a high pressure scenario and i was realizing how much i didn't like either wagon. too many people on 2 wagons, 1 who i was sure was town, and the other has 2 of my scum reads on it. the more it went on the more i didn't like it.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

False. I was not preaching it, the only one there that was truly going on about dbp lynch was roundbox. My read on dbp up to this point was town, and all I had was a tinfoil post about roundbox and dbp wolfing together. One vote there among the other one votes around that time doesn't do much in terms of passing chances.

This is true

Originally Posted by Duk3star

My homesite doesnt allow mafia to holster and I assumed it was mafia KP because there wasnt any claimed vigi and there was only 1 kp.

But
But
There was still only one nightkill and one lynch?
Even if you assume it was Mafia KP that doesn't add another kill...

What?

Originally Posted by fatfuck42

Gradiant giving funny shit for voting/tunneling on lar so early in the phase seems opportunistic. She's tried to convince lar (the one who's been pushing the hardest to get her lynched) with her words and has obviously failed to get through, so now she uses the power of her vote to show she's serious.

Serious about what? Voting her townreads? Serious about throwing the game?

You can't seriously fucking tell me that after voting a townread and then saying after the vote that you still town read them is fucking town. That's fucking stupid. That's beyond stupid. It isn't town play. It isn't solving shit. At best it's trying to get someone to play nice and not question you anymore which is anti-town in a game where we need interactions

You can forget all about what Haku did, and then look at that vote and reason and still come to the conclusion that's fucking scum shit.