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Old 08-15-2013, 01:17 AM   #1
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Default Program for raw score tracking

I'm sick of the scores on here not being tracked with the raw score, which makes it very difficult to keep track of progress without having to do lots of tedious work taking screenshots, comparing said screenshots against your score every time you play, then taking a new screenshot to "update" the score once it's better.

To get around all of this I'm writing a program that will be a wrapper around a standalone client that launches the client, runs FFR, and then hooks into the network traffic in order to keep track of scores in the raw score format automatically so I don't have to.

I've already got the third party library for packet sniffing setup and have figured out the format of all the packet data being sent so now It's just a matter of designing and programming the rest of the infrastructure for the various parts.

I'm mainly posting this since I'm curious as to whether or not anyone else has done something similar or if anyone might be interested in getting the program once I get to a point that's usable. It's not going to have omfg beautiful UI or anything since I'm not an artist at all (flat colors and simple shapes ahoy!), so more than likely it'll end up just being a simple tool with very basic functionality for displaying and editing scores.

tldr; I'm sick of combo scoring so I'm writing a program to track raw scoring automatically.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:28 AM   #2
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i think ffr keeps track of your best raw scores as well


ex) http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...php?level=2040
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:31 AM   #3
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i think ffr keeps track of your best raw scores as well


ex) http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...php?level=2040
That only takes your best combo-raw score (useless)
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:34 AM   #4
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That only takes your best combo-raw score (useless)
yep. Tis unfortunate.

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Old 08-15-2013, 01:36 AM   #5
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oh i didn't know that lol
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:08 AM   #6
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^ um...

but yeah i'd be interested. although would it be flash based, or .exe based? cuz i can't run exe files on mac
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:37 AM   #7
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Seems pretty interesting, I'd probably make use of this.
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:20 PM   #8
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Default Re: Program for raw score tracking

This actually sounds like a really awesome project, and I'd love to try it out when it becomes usable.

Although this project implies storing scores locally, could there be any sort of way to connect to some sort of make shift leaderboard, or share and compare raw score files with others? I mean if I could do something like that, it would pretty much be like raw scoring was a thing, and the community could all compete to strive for great scores together. It would be a great way to see the actual skill of players when they attack tougher files.
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:24 PM   #9
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Seems like a lot of work that should be put towards actually fixing the game for raw scoring.
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:27 PM   #10
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Seems like a lot of work that should be put towards actually fixing the game for raw scoring.


anyway

shenjoku: I am very interested to see what you come up with!
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:28 PM   #11
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Eh, just be ready for it to be obsolete at some point.
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:29 PM   #12
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but yeah i'd be interested. although would it be flash based, or .exe based? cuz i can't run exe files on mac
also, have you tried WINE?
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:38 PM   #13
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but yeah i'd be interested. although would it be flash based, or .exe based? cuz i can't run exe files on mac
Sadly this is going to be Windows only since I have almost zero experience programming for Mac and I can't fucking stand XCode so it makes it even harder for me to want to learn.

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This actually sounds like a really awesome project, and I'd love to try it out when it becomes usable.

Although this project implies storing scores locally, could there be any sort of way to connect to some sort of make shift leaderboard, or share and compare raw score files with others? I mean if I could do something like that, it would pretty much be like raw scoring was a thing, and the community could all compete to strive for great scores together. It would be a great way to see the actual skill of players when they attack tougher files.
You know, I've considered that but setting up a server/client relationship is rather hard and increases the workload exponentially so I'm not sure if I have the motivation to get that crazy. Maybe if I get the rest of it put together quickly enough and run out of things to do I'll give this more consideration.

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Eh, just be ready for it to be obsolete at some point.
I'm perfectly fine with that :P I have an itch to program something so this is what I'm doing.
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You know, I've considered that but setting up a server/client relationship is rather hard and increases the workload exponentially so I'm not sure if I have the motivation to get that crazy. Maybe if I get the rest of it put together quickly enough and run out of things to do I'll give this more consideration.
Awesome. Though even if it is too much of a bother to do something like an actual server setup, it could be as basic as allowing people to give others their raw score files, and have the program compare the files you've imported with your scores on songs. Wouldn't be nearly as efficient or effective, but it would be a step towards mass raw score comparing.

Also, if this program is fully realized, I can expect it would be quite a long time before it ever became obsoleted by FFR converting to raw scoring itself.
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Also, if this program is fully realized, I can expect it would be quite a long time before it ever became obsoleted by FFR converting to raw scoring itself.
Honestly, I'm reaching the point where it might just randomly happen any day now because combo scoring is useless.
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Honestly, I'm reaching the point where it might just randomly happen any day now because combo scoring is useless.
yessssssssssssssssss

Who actually started combo scoring in the first place? I want to retroactively punch them in the face.
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that'd be synthlight
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I laughed. He probably never really thought about it or even expected the game to get popular when he first decided the game mechanics.
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Honestly, I'm reaching the point where it might just randomly happen any day now because combo scoring is useless.
By all means, surprise me one day. If I came on FFR and suddenly raw scoring was the main scoring method, I would probably shit myself. It'd feel so good to finally not have to feel like I have to mash to win.

Also in regards to combo scoring, when FFR first came out, boos actually broke your combo. In order to get a good score, you had to be extremely accurate (1 frame perfect window), have a high combo, and not get any boos. So at least then if you had a high combo / score, you were most likely really good at the song.
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This'd be noooice
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