Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament (COMPLETED) - Page 12

**Tasselfoot** · 01-18-2008, 08:19 PM

wtf. you hadn't AAAd that before dore???

**dore** · 01-18-2008, 08:26 PM

Yup, when it first came out I played it a few times and kept BFing it so I gave up. Hadn't played it since.

jonathanasdf · 01-19-2008, 09:33 AM

hehe.. bit late, but add me in!

**09876** · 01-19-2008, 12:06 PM

Dang it...At about 900 combo or so, I got too excited and hit a boo by accident. Then I messed up at the first 32nd note. I probably won't beat this score though.

**Tasselfoot** · 01-19-2008, 12:55 PM

so, i just re-calculated the scores on the proposed 10 point scale... with each AAA tie giving 10 per person (as opposed to the average of the points for all tied values, aka 9 for each of 3 tied for 1st, 9.5 for 2 tied, etc etc). It isn't even close...

Tass - 87
dabigpig - 77
dore - 76
Fractal - 75
ryan - 72

as opposed to the current system, where everyone is still quite close at the top.

edit: decreasing points on the AAA ties to keep a set number of points per round would bring my score, dore's, fractal's, and ryan's scores down... dabigpig's would stay the same. to give the exact figure... every AAA on Tetris or OLB would give 7.83 instead of 10 (for 6 tied AAAs), Platypus would give 8.2 (for 5 tied AAAs), and GR2R would give 9 (for 3 tied AAAs). which is a total loss to tass, dore, and ryan of 7.14 points. Fractal would lose 2.17. Which would give this top picture:

Tass - 79.86
dabigpig - 77
Fractal - 72.83
dore - 68.86
ryan - 64.86

much closer between myself and dabigpig, as it basically gives more weight to the mental aspect than the FFR aspect.

**RubiedCross** · 01-19-2008, 01:17 PM

Here's some scores. And I might do more puzzles/redo these songs.

**devonin** · 01-19-2008, 01:22 PM

That's an interesting method for song score tabulation. Am I correct in seeing this as
1 - 10
2 - 9
3 - 8
4 - 7

such that a three way tie for 1, means we have levelrank 1, 1, 1, 4 scoring 9, 9, 9, 7 points? I think that's a good way to give good points to everyone who AAAs, but giving -more- points to people who AAA the harder songs (which less people will AAA) But I'm not entirely sure that's what I want to happen. I'm including a fairly wide variety of difficulty levels, but rewarding the harder songs more highly than the easier songs also helps discourage the people who aren't quite as good, even if on the surface it actually brings -down- how many points the AAA'ers get when there are more of them.

**Tasselfoot** · 01-19-2008, 01:39 PM

1 10
2 9
3 8
4-5 7
6-7 6
8-10 5
11-13 4
14-17 3
18-20 2
21+ 1

but, yea. so 6 AAAs would be 10+9+8+7+7+6 = 47/6 = 7.83

and, it does wind up giving "more" points for harder AAAs... but it's all relative. the more people that AAA, the less points each AAA person gets, and those who get less than a AAA will still get their few points, they'll just be closer. like 3 points for 14th vs 7.83 for a 6-way tie for 1st. vs a hard song with no ties, 1st gets their 10, 2nd gets 9, 14th still gets their 3. the overall points given out is identical, just the distribution is a bit different. vs giving 10 points to each of the 6 AAA ties, then dropping all the way to 6 points for 7th. this would be 7.83 for the 6 AAAs and 6 points for 7th. less of a penalty for not AAAing but still being close to a AAA.

regardless, i still do not advocate switching the scoring system this late into the tournament. not that it'll matter.

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**devonin** · 01-19-2008, 01:59 PM

OH no, you're correct in that changing it mid-tourney is a bad call. I'm just assuming (perhaps falsely) that people might actually like this tourney enough to want me to do another one at some point.

**devonin** · 01-19-2008, 02:03 PM

Should all be updated, but I added in a -lot- of info just now, so I'm fully expecting a number or two to be slightly off *grin*

**dore** · 01-19-2008, 03:13 PM

Is the new round tonight?

Also more hard songs pl0x.

**Tasselfoot** · 01-19-2008, 03:24 PM

easier the better.

**dore** · 01-19-2008, 05:56 PM

sssshhhh I need all the help I can get

**devonin** · 01-19-2008, 06:47 PM

New round is tonight yes, and sorry dore, this next one's pretty easy. So far I'd done a 5, 7, 7, 8, 8 and 9 difficulty. This upcoming round's will be the easiest yet, but there's at least going to be a 10 and possibly/probably an 11 or 12 in before the end.

**EDEdDNEdDYFaN** · 01-19-2008, 06:57 PM

Eh.

Can't wait til' the next riddle.

**Tasselfoot** · 01-19-2008, 08:33 PM

see, there ya go dore... at least 2 rounds where you'll gain back 1 point on me. now you just also need to get a few 1sts in mental rounds too.

jonathanasdf · 01-19-2008, 09:22 PM

hehe.. BTW, Tass, could you fix the link for Token 12? It is essential for this tourney..

**i love you** · 01-19-2008, 10:32 PM

Woah, i didnt see this tourny till just now. Omg, sign me up. xD

**EDEdDNEdDYFaN** · 01-20-2008, 01:28 AM

Roller Coaster Ride score

**Tasselfoot** · 01-20-2008, 04:47 AM

01-18-2008, 08:19 PM	#221
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament wtf. you hadn't AAAd that before dore??? __________________ RIP

01-18-2008, 08:26 PM	#222
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament Yup, when it first came out I played it a few times and kept BFing it so I gave up. Hadn't played it since. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

01-19-2008, 09:33 AM	#223
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament hehe.. bit late, but add me in!

01-19-2008, 12:55 PM	#225
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament so, i just re-calculated the scores on the proposed 10 point scale... with each AAA tie giving 10 per person (as opposed to the average of the points for all tied values, aka 9 for each of 3 tied for 1st, 9.5 for 2 tied, etc etc). It isn't even close... Tass - 87 dabigpig - 77 dore - 76 Fractal - 75 ryan - 72 as opposed to the current system, where everyone is still quite close at the top. edit: decreasing points on the AAA ties to keep a set number of points per round would bring my score, dore's, fractal's, and ryan's scores down... dabigpig's would stay the same. to give the exact figure... every AAA on Tetris or OLB would give 7.83 instead of 10 (for 6 tied AAAs), Platypus would give 8.2 (for 5 tied AAAs), and GR2R would give 9 (for 3 tied AAAs). which is a total loss to tass, dore, and ryan of 7.14 points. Fractal would lose 2.17. Which would give this top picture: Tass - 79.86 dabigpig - 77 Fractal - 72.83 dore - 68.86 ryan - 64.86 much closer between myself and dabigpig, as it basically gives more weight to the mental aspect than the FFR aspect. __________________ RIP Last edited by Tasselfoot; 01-19-2008 at 01:02 PM..

01-19-2008, 01:17 PM	#226
RubiedCross FFR Veteran Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 29 Posts: 377	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament Here's some scores. And I might do more puzzles/redo these songs.

01-19-2008, 01:22 PM	#227
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament That's an interesting method for song score tabulation. Am I correct in seeing this as 1 - 10 2 - 9 3 - 8 4 - 7 such that a three way tie for 1, means we have levelrank 1, 1, 1, 4 scoring 9, 9, 9, 7 points? I think that's a good way to give good points to everyone who AAAs, but giving -more- points to people who AAA the harder songs (which less people will AAA) But I'm not entirely sure that's what I want to happen. I'm including a fairly wide variety of difficulty levels, but rewarding the harder songs more highly than the easier songs also helps discourage the people who aren't quite as good, even if on the surface it actually brings -down- how many points the AAA'ers get when there are more of them.

01-19-2008, 01:39 PM	#228
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament 1 10 2 9 3 8 4-5 7 6-7 6 8-10 5 11-13 4 14-17 3 18-20 2 21+ 1 but, yea. so 6 AAAs would be 10+9+8+7+7+6 = 47/6 = 7.83 and, it does wind up giving "more" points for harder AAAs... but it's all relative. the more people that AAA, the less points each AAA person gets, and those who get less than a AAA will still get their few points, they'll just be closer. like 3 points for 14th vs 7.83 for a 6-way tie for 1st. vs a hard song with no ties, 1st gets their 10, 2nd gets 9, 14th still gets their 3. the overall points given out is identical, just the distribution is a bit different. vs giving 10 points to each of the 6 AAA ties, then dropping all the way to 6 points for 7th. this would be 7.83 for the 6 AAAs and 6 points for 7th. less of a penalty for not AAAing but still being close to a AAA. regardless, i still do not advocate switching the scoring system this late into the tournament. not that it'll matter. . __________________ RIP

01-19-2008, 01:59 PM	#229
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament OH no, you're correct in that changing it mid-tourney is a bad call. I'm just assuming (perhaps falsely) that people might actually like this tourney enough to want me to do another one at some point.

01-19-2008, 02:03 PM	#230
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament Should all be updated, but I added in a -lot- of info just now, so I'm fully expecting a number or two to be slightly off grin

01-19-2008, 03:13 PM	#231
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament Is the new round tonight? Also more hard songs pl0x. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

01-19-2008, 03:24 PM	#232
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament easier the better. __________________ RIP

01-19-2008, 05:56 PM	#233
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament sssshhhh I need all the help I can get __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

01-19-2008, 06:47 PM	#234
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament New round is tonight yes, and sorry dore, this next one's pretty easy. So far I'd done a 5, 7, 7, 8, 8 and 9 difficulty. This upcoming round's will be the easiest yet, but there's at least going to be a 10 and possibly/probably an 11 or 12 in before the end.

01-19-2008, 06:57 PM	#235
EDEdDNEdDYFaN FFR Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,118	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament Eh. Can't wait til' the next riddle. __________________

01-19-2008, 08:33 PM	#236
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament see, there ya go dore... at least 2 rounds where you'll gain back 1 point on me. now you just also need to get a few 1sts in mental rounds too. __________________ RIP

01-19-2008, 09:22 PM	#237
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament hehe.. BTW, Tass, could you fix the link for Token 12? It is essential for this tourney..

01-19-2008, 10:32 PM	#238
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament Woah, i didnt see this tourny till just now. Omg, sign me up. xD __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

01-20-2008, 01:28 AM	#239
EDEdDNEdDYFaN FFR Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,118	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament Roller Coaster Ride score __________________ Last edited by EDEdDNEdDYFaN; 01-20-2008 at 03:32 PM..

01-20-2008, 04:47 AM	#240
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tournament __________________ RIP

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