TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[tiloco217]

I don't really have an opinion on soundwave but that's probably enough of a good reason for him to be put under pressure.

[inDheart]

oh there's 2 more pages ok maybe something happened

i'll be missing eod because i'm going to see a late night guardians of the galaxy vol 2, and may only get a chance to pop in a few hours ahead of time (before it starts) so yeah

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by XelNya

do more

but you don't need to hurry

passive aggressive hnnnnnnnng

this was originally a raeko post but thanks for capturing what i thought about it when i read it too

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I need to create a scenario where the majority vote will fall on wolves.

Me being the spotlight of this phase will not accomplish this.

Creating content and information to give town the tools to figure out who doesn't care about this game because they know the entire setup will do that.

It's not a matter of believing in myself, it's a matter of moving the game forward.

tl;dr: I just feel insulted at how easily I'm getting town read.

i am usually more than willing to give a pass to people i see trying, especially d0, and i think you should embrace that. your alignment's yet to be seen this game but if you can have a true wolf game like this then you'll go places, man

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I think Raeko is okay so far based on her iso. It's not strong, but I sense some carefree genuine semi-frustration from game state with that.


I wouldn't clear her yet tho because that's fairly easy to say, but it's a good sign.

Raeko, please describe what seems weird with Xiz / Manti if you read this.

did you pick raeko to iso for a particular reason?

[tiloco217]

still don't know what iso is

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

still don't know what iso is

isolation, pretty much reading the posts of a single person and offering thoughts on them

you can Search This Thread to view the posts made by a particular person and click through them all that way

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I'll leave a reads list to make up for it tho.

wow this post is fucking long and makes me think word salad when i thought you'd already called someone out on that

thing is, you just end up with a lot of nulls anyway, which like...then your post could just be the reads you have, y'know? that would probably be a lot easier to write and take up less of your precious time

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by inDheart

did you pick raeko to iso for a particular reason?

Xel asked me why I wolf read DBP and town read Raeko.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

I like manty a lot more than I feel like I should. I'm not even sure why tbh. Gonna look back over it when I have more time but he feels town to me.

Content like this scares me because I can't put myself in your shoes and describe why I would post that to help town understand my headspace.

It's like you're backpedaling in your own thought. You're giving us the impression that you think he's not as towny as he should be, but you just go up and say that he feels town to you.

What was the point of that post?

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

How about you cut the theatrics and move on with the game

surprisingly less chaos from you this game, not that i ever expect you to 500 post or whatever in a game again but i would think you'd at least try to post some shit and see if it sticks

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Just want to point out that try-harding with a huge readslist like MML has done so early in the game is usually more wolfy than not... just my two cents. Many of the people he included in the list are just null to him so why even include them? I always do a big reads list like that as a wolf

my pony is dead on responding to that reads list apparently

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

I answered him, then answered you, then you went on this little tangent of yours trying to call me out on your shit ass game play

not w/w. i know haku can distance but i almost feel like this would be beneath him

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I understand it's d0. You don't have to pull out all the stops. Killing the person who is suspicious by poe and consensus has never worked to find a wolf d0 in my entire playing career here

Because wolves are part of consensus and can influence it, steering towards favorable outcomes for scum.

In short, nobody should be off the table, especially not from single digit interactions with other people in a 17 person game

no, people are allowed to be off the table. this is a weird post. they'll be alive after d0. it's not the only day of the game with like, very high probability. not wanting to find fellow townspeople and clear them (and take them off the table) is not a towny mindset

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

this is a really suspicious reaction to a simple, common sentiment

this man gets it

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

Backpack I think Freezin is making perfect sense and I don't understand why you're trying to nit pick at his analysis as if there's something fishy about it. Just read it at face value, it makes game mechanic sense to me.

lightknight

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Honestly soundwave' post feels like a wolf trying to dismiss being spotted, while giving out free town points in the process.

man that means i glazed over everything he said so the "not being spotted" thing sure worked

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

Not going to throw it to T/T yet.

It seems really non-organic, like it could be a T/T post up, or it could be a
W/W construction, but I don't see any world where what we just saw is T/W.

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

Aww man, why everybody woof reading me already.

Is it because I've never rolled town?





:^)

this is not even close to the response i'd expect to people's reads on you

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I only have one question for Soundwave- right now.

What made you post that?

and this is a really good question

soundwave wagon could be an idea but i'll go read the rest of his oeuvre

[tiloco217]

Having town reads that I don't actually think I should have is rather important imo. I don't really know how important it is to share but if one person has a read it's pretty likely others have the same read so possibly they can help me understand where the read came from.

[tiloco217]

usually I trust my instincts so I still believe he's town and that's the angle I'm going to evaluate the game from but it's a read that I have to be cautious of

[inDheart]

manti already dug into post 1 and i just caught the most recent post

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

Who said anything about positivity?

this doesn't explain anything about anything though

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

How to explain Haku's meta:

This is normal.

If it's not normal, then we're fucked anyways.

Look somewhere else.

one of two total game relevant comments to say haku's in his range and not a d0 lynch candidate, but unhelpful on actually explaining haku meta when manti wanted people to talk

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

There was no guessing, I saw that.

The operative phrase was "absurdly stupid".

As in wasn't even trying to toe the line.

Just some inferencing from sunfan's phrasing, but maybe I'm too hard on flash.
B)

Good job on that spotting though, you get some karma in my book.

i don't know what karma is supposed to mean but context would say it's another townread

irrelevant post count: 3
self-meta post count: 1

game relevant comments are rather safe, measured; i would want to see more from him but i don't see anything overtly wolfy, other than perhaps pushing aside questions pointed in his direction like haku's

[Hakulyte]

FreezinIce is abnormally quiet and his iso doesn't lead to anything that is letting me believe he really cares about the game. It's mostly just principles with minimal interactions.

It's very similar to Turbo XIII if any of you were in that game. It makes me believe he has bad luck with rolls and got wolf again. (He rolled wolf in both the Turbo XIII and Fall of An Empire.)

I agree that LightKnight does feel weird supporting him in that situation.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Does this post bug anyone else? It bugs me.

Soundwave says he knew and had read sunfan's post, then turns around and says "good job on that spotting though".

My spotting was in reference to him trying to enter the thread on the topic of flashflash's death, and ignoring sunfan's previous post.

He then townreads me for my spotting.


This seems like a dichotomy in rational. I don't see how you can say "I did read sunfan's post, but I'll give you points for pointing out I didn't"

well i think he's saying he read the post but he can understand why his post can come off like he might not have

are you taking issue with him using the word "spotting"?

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

Having town reads that I don't actually think I should have is rather important imo. I don't really know how important it is to share but if one person has a read it's pretty likely others have the same read so possibly they can help me understand where the read came from.

you're referring to your read on manti? i have him as light town for having perceptive things to say about haku and soundwave, without feeling like he's zoning in too hard on them. especially the haku part is useful when several others may cast him aside for already seeming towny enough

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i don't know what karma is supposed to mean but context would say it's another townread

irrelevant post count: 3
self-meta post count: 1

game relevant comments are rather safe, measured; i would want to see more from him but i don't see anything overtly wolfy, other than perhaps pushing aside questions pointed in his direction like haku's

This is relatively normal for him based on his recent game @ Fall of An Empire.

FreezinIce/LightKnight/mellonxcollie/tokzic/Dabackpack/roundbox were also in that game and had the opportunity to play with him aside from me.

He's worth keeping an eye on, but he's kinda tricky to evaluate right. I needed a lot of time with him to get a clue that he was actually town in this game and I've been mostly wrong about him by reading by activity/actions/intentions.

What kept him in the game was the activity/game solving intentions, but it's like he was stuck in a bad situation. Well, he can probably explain his own game better himself if that matters.

tl;dr: He's hard to read imo.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

FreezinIce is abnormally quiet and his iso doesn't lead to anything that is letting me believe he really cares about the game. It's mostly just principles with minimal interactions.

It's very similar to Turbo XIII if any of you were in that game. It makes me believe he has bad luck with rolls and got wolf again. (He rolled wolf in both the Turbo XIII and Fall of An Empire.)

I agree that LightKnight does feel weird supporting him in that situation.

or turbo XI minus the part where he reminds us of his usual d0 policy

"bad luck" is never the type of read i like to hear or make though

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

He's worth keeping an eye on, but he's kinda tricky to evaluate right. I needed a lot of time with him to get a clue that he was actually town in this game and I've been mostly wrong about him by reading by activity/actions/intentions.

What kept him in the game was the activity/game solving intentions, but it's like he was stuck in a bad situation. Well, he can probably explain his own game better himself if that matters.

tl;dr: He's hard to read imo.

i'm basically going to ignore that like 2-game meta or whatever so if it's hard, it's hard

assuming he was town there since you call it "normal" though?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Wolf team was: FreezinIce/DBP/Evanescence(master wolf)
I was Seer.
DFR was Psychic.
Rest VT.

@Fall of An Empire.
Quoting this because this game doesn't have post game info, but there's enough players from that game in this game to confirm this.

Yeah, Soundwave- was VT.