TWG CI: Fiction's Birthday Party

[FictionJunction]

AND HE DIES IF HE LANDS ONE. WOLVES STILL GET A KILL.

OHMYGOd

[FictionJunction]

pntballa for masking a reckless use of our resources as a potential gain for humans and for basing his entire read on danceguy on something most of us who have played with danceguy have disregarded as a harmless departure from his typical playstyle.

[FictionJunction]

like, seriously, there are two reason why wolves fake roles:

1) they're willing to counterclaim to trade a red for the role they're faking.

2) they're replacing a dead role to control the outcome of the lynching process by establishing a red as a trusted human player.

#2 is IMPOSSIBLE right now

[FictionJunction]

the procedure is when two players claim the same role you kill both. Thankfully for us we have cardflips.

This is obviously a trade situation and there won't be a counterclaim because the trade is not really worth it, effectively solidifying dance as the clown.

[pntballa18]

Originally Posted by FictionJunction

this is like such a waste of resources

I know it is, but we can't be sure which is telling the truth otherwise. That's part of the reason why I don't think faking a role in this situation is such an absurd idea. The wolves benefit in two ways, they A)find a blue, and B)use up the tattle tale ability(or, alternatively, find the seer).

I get what you're saying about the clown specifically being a bad role to fake. The only role that would be worse to fake is the tattle tale, since they could get rid of his ability by faking a different role anyways.

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by pntballa18

I know it is, but we can't be sure which is telling the truth otherwise. That's part of the reason why I don't think faking a role in this situation is such an absurd idea. The wolves benefit in two ways, they A)find a blue, and B)use up the tattle tale ability(or, alternatively, find the seer).

I get what you're saying about the clown specifically being a bad role to fake. The only role that would be worse to fake is the tattle tale, since they could get rid of his ability by faking a different role anyways.

if the wolves really wanted to trade a role they would counterclaim a more powerful blue. really the only use for the clown is when another PR is forced to claim and if the clown is alive then they will die at night and prolong that PR one more night and get one more action off

otherwise it would be an lolbad wolf play and clown will counter and dance will get got

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by pntballa18

The wolves benefit in two ways, they A)find a blue, and B)use up the tattle tale ability(or, alternatively, find the seer).

I get what you're saying about the clown specifically being a bad role to fake. The only role that would be worse to fake is the tattle tale, since they could get rid of his ability by faking a different role anyways.

THE CLOWN IS BASICALLY USELESS because HE DIES IF HE'S SUCCESSFUL. WOLVES DON'T GAIN ANYTHING THEY WOULDN't HAVE GAINED OTHERWISE. And his success depends on knowing who the wolves will target (IMPOSSIBLE AT THIS STAGE) and whether or the target is worth sacrificing himself for (IMPOSSIBLE AT THIS STAGE and very hard regardless of phase).

And the tattle should NOT use his ability on this. This is a waste.

We find out who they both are if we even get a counterclaim (and we won't because THE TRADE IS BAD because the bodyguard is VIRTUALLY USELESS) by killing BOTH given that our FIRST CARDFLIP is BLUE.

[FictionJunction]

I'm going to have aneurism

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by pntballa18

we can't be sure which is telling the truth otherwise.

You kill one. Cardflip game. There, mystery solved.

And there aren't any counterclaims. And this is the time to come out and counterclaim.

[j-rodd123]

now that I don't need to peek danceguy im going to peek fiction

[FictionJunction]

but.. we're masons..

[j-rodd123]

I know I know but ive been hurt before man, depends on the lynch and cardflip tho

people not getting off dance is a bit worrysome

[FictionJunction]

manti please weigh in

[j-rodd123]

another reason to believe danceguys claim I thought of

he definitely acted different,there is no denying that. my initial thought was wolfy too, but this was probably just to generate a bit of suspicion so that he can survive the night and have his claimable role still alive another day

[DarkManticoreX2]

My head is about to explode from all the stupid questions about what the blues should do.

Until a time comes when it's beneficial for blues to come out and team up, only each blue knows what they're going to do. Let them make their decisions and lets find a target other then danceguy because killing the Bodyguard without a secondary claim on D1 is stupid.

If dance was a wolf, the true BG/clown would come out and we'd lynch the wolfier one. the cardflip would tell us if we were right or wrong and we'd make our next decision from there.

I'm still working on wolf candidates. J-rodd and V are annoying me though.

[FictionJunction]

can't we just move all of danceguy's vote on pntballa

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

My head is about to explode from all the stupid questions about what the blues should do.

Until a time comes when it's beneficial for blues to come out and team up, only each blue knows what they're going to do. Let them make their decisions and lets find a target other then danceguy because killing the Bodyguard without a secondary claim on D1 is stupid.

If dance was a wolf, the true BG/clown would come out and we'd lynch the wolfier one. the cardflip would tell us if we were right or wrong and we'd make our next decision from there.

I'm still working on wolf candidates. J-rodd and V are annoying me though.

maybe if you interacted with people more you could form better reads

[j-rodd123]

or any reads for all that's worth. theres a ton of frozen people right now btw, charu/yoshl not posting, seen yoman viewing the thread today, same with netjet, james popped in and didn't change his vote yet but he says he will tonight.

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

maybe if you interacted with people more you could form better reads

[j-rodd123]

I love manti tho, and it's gonna be funny because I bet that comment from me legit made him mad