TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

time for another episode of "slip or sarcasm" with your host tsunderplane

Mettaton can't even make that show work

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

maybe I misread something you said then.

It would still stand that you basically gave Napsta a pass at the start of the previous phase for reasons that I don't think are good enough, but Idk

you're fully entitled to not think they're good enough but i hadn't been convinced that they weren't town at that point

now that someone finally pointed out the softclaim posts and all the pr's have been claimed it's looking far more doubtful

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

Mettaton can't even make that show work

harsh

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

napstablook
this isn't a troll, if I throw the game, I'm sorry.

I can literally never see Napsta being town at this point. If I lost to Tsunder+papyrus, then its gg, but I can't see Napsta being town, especially with how the votes went down on him last phase. I've driven myself pretty insane with this game, for what its worth, and I'm kind of done typing essays. I feel like I keep lynching the shit out of villagers and I'm not really sure what to do regarding my play to change this, but I about made up my mind during the last night phase to instantly vote for someone, and I was between all three people at different points.

I'm going back to Sans bussing Napsta. And I'm not changing my mind.

You see this shit Greg, /this/ is why they've refused to kill you. You lose all confidence in yourself, your ability to read and your reads themselves and it makes for a super easy last few phases. Please play smarter than this.

[TWG Napstablook]

Also I'm not a blue, I have nothing to cc..but I'm also not a human so from my pov one of these claims is bogus. Since everyone is reading into my post as softing I'll explain it.

I'm Red Blaster.
I was going to make a bad typical Red Blaster post where I freak out and just scream and cry that I'm a monster annnnnd I didn't want to do that.
Also I didn't debate the whole softing thing in the previous day because I felt it was one of the only things keeping me alive at that point in time.

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Papyrus

if we're both monsters how does nappy plane ever think either:
a) there is no doctor
b) if there is a doctor, it's you

Is this a slip? Doc isn't even in this game
and aren't you claiming medic anyway?

[TWG Napstablook]

Anyway it's looking like it's me vs Dummy, which is a really shit place to be, for today's lynch just due to two uncontested claims and a confirmed Temmie. I'm not a human so I know without a doubt that one of these claimers is not what they claim to be.

I honestly don't buy Plane's claim of trying to draw attention to themselves..as far as I recall your activity this game suggests otherwise and nobody really even remembered anything you did as you were fairly utr until recently.
I didn't. Undyne didn't. Muffet didn't. Pretty sure if I go take a look back I'll find others.

[TWG Napstablook]

Can't really debate Pap's medic claim any further than: why the fuck they ever switch off of Alphys?

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Can't really debate Pap's medic claim any further than: why the fuck they ever switch off of Alphys?

Which in and of itself is pretty damning and I'd like an answer other than "they expected me to be on her so I assumed they'd block her, so I went somewhere else expecting her to be blocked"

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Anyway it's looking like it's me vs Dummy, which is a really shit place to be, for today's lynch just due to two uncontested claims and a confirmed Temmie. I'm not a human so I know without a doubt that one of these claimers is not what they claim to be.

I honestly don't buy Plane's claim of trying to draw attention to themselves..as far as I recall your activity this game suggests otherwise and nobody really even remembered anything you did as you were fairly utr until recently.
I didn't. Undyne didn't. Muffet didn't. Pretty sure if I go take a look back I'll find others.

that's why I said I tried, not that I was successful at it

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Is this a slip? Doc isn't even in this game
and aren't you claiming medic anyway?

1. i use the terms interchangeably because the role is called doctor in EM and most setups we play on here, using semantics as reads sucks m8
2. you missed the point of that post entirely: i was asking dummy hey, if the human team is you and plane, why would you/plane roleblock anyone except me while setting up an alphys kill

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Anyway it's looking like it's me vs Dummy, which is a really shit place to be, for today's lynch

i don't think even you believe that you can get dummy lynched
whatever you are you're definitely not the human roleblocker
i don't know if you have the balls to support this debate once the thread is more active but even so i think you'd say this regardless of which one of dummy and plane is your partner
this post overall, not just this first part i'm taking, plays right into the team being you and plane: you don't want plane to be the alternative to lynching you because you certainly think you'd lose F3 against greg and temmie if she gets lynched, but at the same time you want to scumread plane because undyne already called you out on having too many "safe" people last phase and you don't want to make that mistake again
on the other hand, if your partner is greg then this post makes it really hard for me to make the right choice in an F3 with him and plane. i think any self-respecting human wouldn't bus greg at lylo but i think i'd be giving you too much credit if i assumed the same for you
if you are somehow actually a monster this post of yours makes a little sense. my major holdup on you being a monster based solely on your posts is that you have a lot of anger throughout the game but little paranoia. i've already said i'm okay with losing if dummy/plane are the pair based on their interactions, though

ultimately though i'd rather lynch a "known" vanilla human than an "unknown" roleblocker so if we are seriously going to narrow it down to you and greg, i lynch you every time unless you can come up with something so godlike i have no choice but to accept that mad plane is the human pair
at best greg flips roleblocker which would mean me dying, and i don't trust F3 to go so well without me since apparently temmie can't read for shit (why else would they be focusing on sans ?= charu at lylo). at worst he flips monster and i feel the spaghetti for the next eternity like two days tops. in between those he flips vanilla human and i end up in a nightmare scenario with you and plane

[TWG Napstablook]

Good job ignoring my post mentioning why you would ever move off Alphys.

[TWG Napstablook]

Because a legit medic never never never moves off of another blue going into mylo.

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Good job ignoring my post mentioning why you would ever move off Alphys.

good job ignoring the post where i explained exactly why i moved off her as well as the motivation for not caring about who i chose that i wrote into that post

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

Because a legit medic never never never moves off of another blue going into mylo.

i've done this in livetwg and tilted the maf team so hard that both of them immediately claimed doctor
you need to add "unless it's me" to the end of that statement

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Papyrus

i've done this in livetwg and tilted the maf team so hard that both of them immediately claimed doctor
you need to add "unless it's me" to the end of that statement

funny that you mention this considering we had two claims today.

[TWG Napstablook]

I want Dummy's perspective on this.
also input from Temmie would be nice.

From our, Dummy and my own, pov one of the claims is 100% fake just due to knowing Temmie is a monster and obviously our view of ourself being monsters, so who's the less believable claim in your opinion?

[TWG Mad Dummy]

I have yet to make up my mind, its possible they're both fake.

Dog, I really don't get how I can't interpret those posts as softs, but I guess I can be wrong.

I really don't know how I can't interpret Charu as busing you, but I guess I can be wrong.

Idk man, if Tsunderplane yelled at me like that in their first game back, that was pretty good. I suppose its possible, but like... I don't particularly like any of you.

I hate the fact that Papyrus claims to have not saved Alphys because no matter what his justification is its essentially always shit-tier

I agree with you that I never interpreted anything Tsunder said as softing, and to be honest, her saying "If you lynch me then you lose" over and over is a reason not to believe her.

Idk man

I'm on the worst losing streak of my career (I'd honestly consider last jTWG to be a loss for myself). If it continues, then it continues based on my bad play, but I can't really understand why you've done what you've done with those "I'm a catastrophically bad lynch posts" and whatnot.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

its really, really whatever, because Papyrus can't justify not saving Alphys ever. He had a bad reaction to the claims. He voted for himself after I voted for him when, from his perspective, there's always one between between you and Plane, which is so goddamn awful I can't even believe it happened.

I think we kill him, and if I'm alive tomorrow, literally fuck both you and plane.

If Papyrus isn't human, idk man.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Papyrus had a bad reaction to Undyne posting about both you and Tsunderplane softing*