TWG CLXV - The Wine In Front Of Me - Game Thread

[Litodude]

Originally Posted by Charu

Y'know what else is sad?

You missing that players have already done two of the above three you listed.

I may not be paying my utmost attention this game either (and not reading the setup closely again, oops), but come on dude, what is this post?

100% human

let's talk mechanics before i leave:

at this point, humans have to push for wolves and other people's reads and alignments because i think this is theoretically the second worst case scenario that could happen for us save an ic/tracker kill cycle instead d0/1, and probably the point in the game itself would die and wolves get an auto victory #feelsbatman

so while there's a lack of motivation (hooray coffee'd me)

wolves can do nothing except distance themselves away from anyone else considering there is flips, so while it may not be MeTa to do iso or w/e, posting votes and actions meow would be a good strat mechanically moving fwd and trying to read as much as possible

if the IC gets too much pressure nd chooses to flip, then they do it at their discretion but better to do that then pulla 3 minute eod lightknight and do a NRSFD (Non-Race Specific Fire Drill)

what's a good wolf start?

>stay quiet

>get loud

toss up.

what's a good human strat?

>stay quiet
fuck no

>get loud
https://youtu.be/Q91hydQRGyM?t=12s

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

Oh yeah...



Not as a whole, but I think I heard you say my bussing is pretty black and white before.

will talk more about it later but yeah I haven't noticed anything of the like and I think this is a good look for Charu

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

so am I town now?
another 180 we got a 360 folks lets see if he makes it to the fabled 1080

the kid in me can't help but point out that he's at a 540 right now

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Charu

. . .

Yeah, I think I will.

lightknight924

when Charu is a wolf one of the things that is kind of easy for me to ping him out on is that he tries to get people to do things

the fact that he was ASKED to join the lightknight wagon rather than start on the wagon himself looks pretty good for him as well

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by YoshL

so i rread the "exchange" that sunfan and freezin had

it was sunfan iterating actual points and challenging freezin to refute any of it, giving clear examples of what to refute, and freezin just kind doing his best impression of hakulyte on the side

you're now angry that sunfan got mad because...you might die and sunfan might die because of his push now? are you fucking for real?

i can 100% see conviction in a lot of what sunfan is saying, and hillariously enough i agree with that one part where he says wolfan doesn't get this heated over someone being overwhelmingly dumb. rare case where sunfan peeks over the null line into town territory early game tbh - i'd usually give him the straight up null until later when there's plenty to analyze off of, because i have respect for his twg play

that being said, in the situation where someone is actually pushing with conviction, and hypothetically their push comes up as town, I don't know why you're worrying so much about sunfan's fate. It's as if you can't bring yourself to lie or bullshit your way out of the "really bad push" you made on sunfan (tbh can someone like, quote things i actually don't remember much of a push on sunfan)

travelling a little more today, will be back at a more normal force for eod

once i can go back over freezin's shit and lose more IQ points, i'll probably pop down a vote

if freezin is a wolf, tokzic is a wolf

i'm pretty sure tokzic has made 0 contributions to thread

will also agree w/ shadow in that charu is playing a more straight twg game than i'd say he usually does, which definitely feels off, and will always throw up the matrix 6 alarm bells. I do'nt think it's actually very much indicative of anything this early on though, similar to sunfan but to a greater degree of "i can't read this ho"

this post helped my sanity a bit the following morning
I do think specifically the part where he talks about me peaking into town territory on d0 was worded in a townie way; like he actually was surprised

aside from that I do think that this is probably a NAI post from Yoshl; he was already shitting on Freezin for a while and any kind of interaction with Freezin on this kind of scale (unless it was Haku/Freezin) would probably get a reaction similar to this one

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Slick angleshooting tex

just wanna comment rq that he's allowed to do what he did
since I know its been talked about more than once
was illegal for a little while but its legal now

[AragakiAyase]

Votes from post 1606 to post 1986
Night in 28:17:11
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- inDheart -- Litodude (40), FreezinIce (41), choof (46)
• 2 -- Hakulyte -- YoshL (19), ShadoWolfe (32)
• 1 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (43)
• 5 -- not voting -- Charu (47), inDheart (0), mellonxcollie (19), roundbox (0), thesunfan (91)

[thesunfan]

inDheart (0)
roundbox (0)
less so but YoshL (19)
=(((((((((((((((((((((((((

[Hakulyte]

Vote progression since the beginning of the game for my own reference.
Felt like sharing.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 280
Night in 46:38:48
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- Hakulyte -- Charu (41), YoshL (37), Gradiant (17)
• 1 -- roundbox -- inDheart (18)
• 1 -- FreezinIce -- choof (27)
• 1 -- choof -- FreezinIce (56)
• 1 -- inDheart -- thesunfan (40)
• 1 -- unvote -- Hakulyte (37)
• 5 -- not voting -- Lightknight924 (0), Litodude (0), mellonxcollie (3), roundbox (0), Tokzic (0)

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 988
Night in 11:04:17
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- thesunfan -- Tokzic (7), Litodude (31), FreezinIce (252), Hakulyte (63)
• 3 -- FreezinIce -- Gradiant (109), thesunfan (149), Lightknight924 (3)
• 1 -- roundbox -- inDheart (36)
• 1 -- Lightknight924 -- Charu (162)
• 1 -- Litodude -- choof (59)
• 1 -- inDheart -- YoshL (65)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (5), roundbox (19)

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 1 to post 1073
Night in 6:05:06
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- thesunfan -- Tokzic (7), Litodude (52), FreezinIce (280), Hakulyte (63)
• 2 -- Lightknight924 -- ShadoWolfe (28), Charu (170)
• 2 -- Litodude -- choof (59), Lightknight924 (7)
• 1 -- roundbox -- inDheart (36)
• 1 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (163)
• 1 -- inDheart -- YoshL (67)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (5), roundbox (19)

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 1334
Night in 1:11:58
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- thesunfan -- Tokzic (8), Litodude (75), FreezinIce (328), Hakulyte (82)
• 2 -- inDheart -- YoshL (71), ShadoWolfe (76)
• 2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (205), Lightknight924 (13)
• 1 -- Lightknight924 -- Charu (194)
• 1 -- Litodude -- choof (61)
• 1 -- unvote -- inDheart (49)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (14), roundbox (40)

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 1480
Night in 0:20:24
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- thesunfan -- Tokzic (9), FreezinIce (358), Hakulyte (84)
• 3 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (227), Lightknight924 (15), inDheart (57)
• 1 -- inDheart -- YoshL (72)
• 1 -- Lightknight924 -- Charu (218)
• 1 -- YoshL -- ShadoWolfe (97)
• 1 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86)
• 1 -- unvote -- choof (78)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (14), roundbox (46)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 1521
Night in 0:08:39
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (236), Lightknight924 (15), Charu (225)
• 2 -- Lightknight924 -- ShadoWolfe (102), FreezinIce (360)
• 2 -- thesunfan -- Tokzic (11), Hakulyte (84)
• 2 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (62)
• 1 -- inDheart -- YoshL (74)
• 1 -- unvote -- choof (85)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (14), roundbox (47)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 1533
Night in 0:06:49
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- Lightknight924 -- ShadoWolfe (103), FreezinIce (361), Charu (228), Tokzic (12)
• 2 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (62)
• 2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (237), Lightknight924 (15)
• 1 -- inDheart -- YoshL (75)
• 1 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (85)
• 1 -- unvote -- choof (85)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (15), roundbox (48)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 1555
Night in 0:04:09
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (240), Lightknight924 (16), choof (86), YoshL (77)
• 4 -- Lightknight924 -- ShadoWolfe (105), FreezinIce (362), Charu (231), Tokzic (13)
• 2 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (63)
• 2 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (85), mellonxcollie (18)
• 1 -- not voting -- roundbox (51)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 1587
Night in 0:00:50
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 6 -- Lightknight924 -- ShadoWolfe (106), FreezinIce (365), Charu (235), Tokzic (16), YoshL (79), roundbox (56)
• 2 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (65)
• 2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (244), Lightknight924 (17)
• 2 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (86), mellonxcollie (18)
• 1 -- unvote -- choof (91)

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 1601
It is night
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 7 -- Tokzic -- Litodude (86), inDheart (66), roundbox (57), FreezinIce (366), Charu (237), YoshL (82), ShadoWolfe (107)
• 2 -- FreezinIce -- thesunfan (245), Lightknight924 (18)
• 2 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (86), mellonxcollie (18)
• 1 -- Lightknight924 -- Tokzic (16)
• 1 -- unvote -- choof (93)

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 1606 to post 1986
Night in 28:17:11
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- inDheart -- Litodude (40), FreezinIce (41), choof (46)
• 2 -- Hakulyte -- YoshL (19), ShadoWolfe (32)
• 1 -- thesunfan -- Hakulyte (43)
• 5 -- not voting -- Charu (47), inDheart (0), mellonxcollie (19), roundbox (0), thesunfan (91)

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Litodude

You have no idea how difficult that was to type up please do NOT skip that

gonna stop quoting lito posts for the most part but yteah he has a lot of small little moments like these that I think wolves don't often think to fake

[choof]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

@choof
you know I have a good read on you
you posted about it earlier

I don't see why specifically this game its pocketing when I've never been wrong on you before. As town you know I'm going to read you correctly, so as wolf I'm basically forced into doing the same thing.

town sunfan: one or two posts about me being towny and one "LOCK CLEAR" post

wolf sunfan: making like 10 posts about me being towny, quoting things recently that I made literally at the start of the game

[choof]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I feel like I've hardly interacted with you so I'm not really sure where you got this idea but can you like

yeah and the only interaction has really been you saying "choof town" and me saying "dude stop"

[choof]

on second thought the case will have to wait until tomorrow because I have to be social and that drains me so bad

[YoshL]

every time i want to make a post, hakulyte makes a post that makes me wholly regret signing up for this game tbh

i've been keeping up generally w/ thread as i can.

don't have much to comment on, reads haven't really advanced much? mostly because hakulyte has been kinda the main point of my focus unfortunately, and he's made damn sure to be as stupid as possible. Like, I honestly feel like my enjoyment and actual productivity are instantly quelled as soon as haku makes a post because it makes me feel disgusting knowing that he thinks he's actually being a good part of the game and i get sidetracked as fuck. indheart would have been the other person that i would have liked to actually progress w/ interactions in thread w/ but he's not even here

sunfan being basically the full driving force throughout this phase, even after 2 blues died previously is imo full on WIM sunfan. i do think that sunfan would have an easier time, and i guess, would be much more inclined to sit back after losing 2/3ds of town PRs, although that's in the end just my analysis on what sunfan might do as a wolf in this situation.

lito and mellon look fine from the past bunch of pages.

[thesunfan]

choof
I agreed with roundbox that you might not be as town as I thought you were at the end of D0 you might not remember if you haven't reread because you were drunk

I said that I was going to look at you coming into this phase

I believe I've hardly interacted with u and if you think the difference between my town and wolf games is 9 posts of interactions then I think you're wrong

it bothers me slightly because Yoshl has literally never wavered in his townread of you but you're focusing on me for "pocketing" and this both annoys me and makes me question you a little bit more

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

gonna stop quoting lito posts for the most part but yteah he has a lot of small little moments like these that I think wolves don't often think to fake

This is a good catch.
Solidified townread for Lito
Slight bonus town points for sunfan

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I really like lito's most recent effortpost wow

on a reread it wasn't as impressive as it was to me the first time, would be interested in what you have to say about it now

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

You guys serious?
I must be missing something because it mostly read like a massive Haku insult wall to me?

yeah this is what it felt like to me on a reread

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by roundbox

indheart doesn't look like he's scrambling
which is good

if roundbox is a wolf I'd bet $1 that indheart is his partner for this read

[thesunfan]

like that really FEELS like a townread on a partner to me