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[orlando2k7]

i fc'd TGWP 4 :]

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...eplay/5708312/

[skishmonkey72]

Originally Posted by devonin

So you're wanting to make the tier point system, but only for one-handers.

*sigh* This is never going to just go away is it.

Didn't intend for it to turn out that way, but it just turns out so well. And there is a major fundamental difference: the original tier point system doesn't single out specific arrow patterns.

[devonin]

This just keeps reminding me of the completely ridiculous stats that sports commentators are always bringing up.

"Oh, he's batting .400 against left-handed pitchers, on tuesdays, after two in the afternoon"

[Redorigami]

Originally Posted by skishmonkey72

So... first off, how many difficulties for each section....? And where should we set the lowest and highest? IMO, lowest should still be high enough so that only the top people get at least one point, not the people with 10 000+ average rank. And highest should be high, but not so high that none of us have a chance of achieving it.

We could also start making a list of songs that fit best in each category (not worrying about difficulty yet):

Streams: I have no idea, other than obvious harder songs like Caprice and Silence. Which reminds me, Caprice is FGO, except that with a little more practice and getting better at mini-jacks, I might even FC it, but I'm nowhere close to Silence. Anyways...

Rolls: The immediate one that comes to mind is Coat Czech and Gaussian blur, although Gaussian blur is also stream-heavy, and after the beginning, there's like almost no rolls. So... maybe one of TGWP?

Trills: Definitely Max Forever... there's several that are on the tip of my tongue but I can't remember...

Jacks: AIM anthem as the very top one, maybe? Or is it too hard, or what? I have no idea because I'm not at that skill level yet. The only other one I can think of is Devotion and Desire.

Jumpstream: Hehe, lots of hard jumpstream songs, including silence. Is EHHS too hard to be the top one on the list or should Silence be the top, or what?

Yeah, I'm not a song expert... help?

EDIT: Forgot Prototype and {Blaze} for streams.

Picking things out in the order they come to mind.
Streams-Blaze is a yes. Rose maybe. Red Alert might be a good one for the lower points because of the speed of the first bit whether its long or not. Gradeus? Summer? Neon-213? Air!?
Rolls-Coat Czech is a yes. I think...maybe...Nice Nice noise?
Trills-Max, Klung Kung, ASB I think has a few, Hyper Hyper with the up-down ones? (idk which it is its Kaw vs Smiley vs Inspector K)
Jacks-Aim, Norgers? Stalled out and sushi bars?GGC?
Jumpstream-Etude, EHHS? Silence, Love Cheat/Sympathizer/Dream of Scarlet for JUST jumps(TGWP4 too), Robotix? LOL I FORGOT SEVEN =O Frozen? Firestorm for an easier one? Aztec Templing?
And runningmen-Klung Kung and CI are all that come to mind.

[skishmonkey72]

Originally Posted by Redorigami

Picking things out in the order they come to mind.
Streams-Blaze is a yes. Rose maybe. Red Alert might be a good one for the lower points because of the speed of the first bit whether its long or not. Gradeus? Summer?
Rolls-Coat Czech is a yes. I think...maybe...Nice Nice noise?
Trills-Max, Klung Kung, ASB I think has a few, Hyper Hyper with the up-down ones? (idk which it is its Kaw vs Smiley vs Inspector K)
Jacks-Aim, Norgers? Stalled out and sushi bars?GGC?
Jumpstream-Etude, EHHS? Silence, Love Cheat/Sympathizer/Dream of Scarlet for JUST jumps(TGWP4 too), Robotix?
And runningmen-Klung Kung and CI are all that come to mind.

Just making a more organized list so I can read it better, lol, no offense.

Streams:
Blaze
{Rose}
{Red Alert}
Gradeus
The Prototype

Rolls:
Coat Czech
Nice Nice Noise

Trills:
Max Forever
ASB
Klung Klung
Hyper Hyper

Jacks:
AIM Anthem
Norgers
Stalled Out and Sushi Bars
Devotion and Desire (has a few jumps too if I recall correctly)
GGC

Jumpstream:
Which Etude? Revo, Dragon, Legendary? lol
EHHS
Silence
Love Cheat
Sympathizer
Dream of Scarlet
Robotix

EDIT: Forgot Jumps.
World of Dreams
Forza Azzuri (uh oh, token. *gasp*)
TGWP4
Faces
And I don't have Love Cheat yet I don't think, so I don't know.

Oh, and for no reason, you reminded me. Crossovers are SO fun one-handed. Almost orgasmic. Well, not really, but they're still fun.

[Redorigami]

Originally Posted by skishmonkey72

Which Etude? Revo, Dragon, Legendary?

Lol my bad. Typically it's Revo when I mean revo and I forgot Legendary existed so I assumed you would assume Dragon. Grown to love that song after 2 weeks of tryin to AAA so I sometimes consider it THE etude XD
Trills- maybe add Take Me Back? I'm playing it now to check.
EDIT-Ya it's got three hellish trills but I don't know if they alone are enough for anything.
Jumpstreams-Unknown Girl

[skishmonkey72]

After this we might need to take some out because they're about the same difficulty, and therefore redundant. Then again, I think we're also missing some difficulties too...

Lol, the only ones here I've actually FC'd are Stalled Out and Norgers... I'm really close to FCing a lot of the Challenging ones though... I'm at that stage where I have the skill to do it, but I just can't fricking do it. I combo each section of the song, but not in the same game.

@Zag: Sorry, looks like we partially hijacked your thread... It still is about top one-handers though... so not really I guess. At any rate nothing is concrete yet, so it's still all yours, lol.

[Redorigami]

Have to add some songs to test endurance too. (psst FFLBF FTW)

[Zageron]

Jesus! Guys this **** is awesome! >.< (I heart you guys)
Edit:
I... wait on me a bit xD

[Redorigami]

Streams:
{Red Alert}
The Prototype
Tension/{Blaze}
{Rose}
Gradeus

Rolls:
Coat Czech
Nice Nice Noise

Trills:
ASB
Hyper Hyper
Max Forever/Klung Klung


Jacks:
Devotion and Desire (has a few jumps too if I recall correctly)
GGC
AIM Anthem

Jumpstream:
Etude to a Dragon
Robotix
Silence
EHHS

Jumps:
World of Dreams
Forza Azzuri (I'll have to check this one)
TGWP4/Dream of Scarlet(Also moved)
Faces
Love Cheat!/Sympathizer(moved because it's more jumps than streams)

Rough placement of the songs. Also for this we may need to add runningmen as well as stamina and sightreading.

[AOD_ELEMENT]

all my ranks are from 1 hand...

[Zageron]

kung klung is good runningmen as well as classical insanity.

+ That other song from Dimrain has streams. uhm..

[Redorigami]

Originally Posted by Zageron

kung klung is good runningmen as well as classical insanity.

+ That other song from Dimrain has streams. uhm..

Note to self Unknown girl for jumpstreams and VBETA for streams or maybe even trills.
Infernoplex? Also, I mentioned those earlier for runningmen but I don't know what happened. Never made it to the list? idk.

[Zageron]

Kay. Updated first post.

Interestingly complicated idea. :P

Edit: Edited First post again.

[skishmonkey72]

Streams:
{Red Alert} (1)
The Prototype (2)
Tension/{Blaze} (3)
{Rose} (4)
Gradeus (5)

Rolls:
Coat Czech (1)
Nice Nice Noise (2)

Trills:
ASB (1)
Hyper Hyper (2)
Max Forever (3)
Klung Klung (4)


Jacks:
(Something here, yes or no?)
Devotion and Desire (has a few jumps too if I recall correctly)
(We definitely need one or two here)
GGC
AIM Anthem

Jumpstream:
Etude to a Dragon (1)
Robotix (2)
Unknown Girl (3)
Silence (4)
EHHS (5)

Jumps:
World of Dreams (1)
Forza Azzuri (2)
TGWP4/Dream of Scarlet (3)
Faces (4)
Love Cheat!/Sympathizer (5)

Note: For these requirements, you have to display proficiency with the specific note pattern for the song, not necessarily FC it, although for many songs an FC may be required.

Fixed.

[Arcsynth]

I lowered my avrank by 3000 just now. =D

[chopperdudes]

i think you should totally add CIA Rave as stamina... like srsly i fc'ed max forever and also CIA, but i can assure you how much more ****'ed up my hand was after CIA than max forever. too much left right rolls kills one handers... can't slide...

edit: what do you mean by stamina when you put pants and VB there? like if we pass the song we get points? cuz no1's gonna rack up a sizable combo on them... especially pants...

and i kinda know it's needed, but jumpstream songs are very unfair for ppl with keyboards that only reads 2 keys at a time...

edit2: for some different names you might consider "class", or "grade"? and i think red alert has jumpstreams in it... definitely cuz i know i can fc the stream part but my kb just beeps when it comes to jumpstreams

and also can i suggest GO! for jacks... it's got mini jacks everywhere...
rolls: that huge wall of rolls in For FFR, and those impossible reverse rolls in Torinouta (noise rave mix)

[Redorigami]

First of all it is possible to rack up decent combos on those songs, but we are going to judge by a replay and see how well we consider you're abilities on the challlenge in the song is. Sure racking up a sizeable combo on VBETA or something would get more points, but as long as you show proficiency at the streams and are not struggling to keep a fair PA and a small combo then you might still earn points.

And my keyboard only reads 2 keys at a time, no problems here. I don't see what you mean.

EDIT- o ya I forgot about how fun those rolls in tourinouta were.
Add http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...eplay/6457974/ to stamina plz?

[skishmonkey72]

Originally Posted by chopperdudes

i think you should totally add CIA Rave as stamina... like srsly i fc'ed max forever and also CIA, but i can assure you how much more ****'ed up my hand was after CIA than max forever. too much left right rolls kills one handers... can't slide...

edit: what do you mean by stamina when you put pants and VB there? like if we pass the song we get points? cuz no1's gonna rack up a sizable combo on them... especially pants...

and i kinda know it's needed, but jumpstream songs are very unfair for ppl with keyboards that only reads 2 keys at a time...

edit2: for some different names you might consider "class", or "grade"? and i think red alert has jumpstreams in it... definitely cuz i know i can fc the stream part but my kb just beeps when it comes to jumpstreams

and also can i suggest GO! for jacks... it's got mini jacks everywhere...
rolls: that huge wall of rolls in For FFR, and those impossible reverse rolls in Torinouta (noise rave mix)

My keyboard only hits 2 arrows at a time, but I don't have problems with it on jumpstreams.

As for stamina, I think we're looking more at maintaining the same level of skill (PA, and maybe comboing as well), not necessarily a FC.

And as for CIA Rave, it doesn't tire me out at all. It's about as tiring for me as half the VD songs. Thinking Different is worse for me, and it's not even bad. Maybe you need to work on your streams lol.

*looks at post* lol, sorry, I didn't mean to kill your post. You made a good contribution to the thread nonetheless.

[Redorigami]

BB evolution/revenge should be added to stamina as well. And by the way I was thinking of Duality instead of Hyper Hyper can't believe nobody noticed that.