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Old 07-9-2018, 07:05 PM   #21
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Ffr is a weird game also because alot of the charts tend themselves to be manipulated, but when you play them later with the speed to hit them legit, the patterns feel really accurate so it's odd.. It's possible in ffr to SDG things way ahead of your level so idk

At the end of the day, if the issue is "some things are rated too low", I mean, long term your goal should be to be able to play the hardest songs, so any challenge now doesn't really matter, but idk mindset etc etc
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Old 07-9-2018, 07:05 PM   #22
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go play that 41 again and try to aaa it, then try the 50 again and try to aaa it. Which ones harder now?

Looking at your level ranks though, im not sure you can accurately say a 50 is easier than a 41 until you can aaa those difficulties.
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Old 07-9-2018, 07:09 PM   #23
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go play that 41 again and try to aaa it, then try the 50 again and try to aaa it. Which ones harder now?
Ugh

Welcome 2 Omnicore best score 327 - 74 - 14 - 9 - 12- 136

Unpause the heat - 158 - 26 - 1 - 25 - 8 - 135
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Etterna difficulties aren't meant to be in a AAA based game.
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Old 07-9-2018, 07:14 PM   #25
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Ugh

Welcome 2 Omnicore best score 327 - 74 - 14 - 9 - 12- 136

Unpause the heat - 158 - 26 - 1 - 25 - 8 - 135
Please tell me youre trolling?

First off, the first 100 notes alone in unpause are harder to PA than the whole omnicore file. Second off the rest of the file was pretty advanced stuff like fast runningmen. They are fine. Unpause is DEFINITELY way higher than omnicore. The intro alone is tricky as fuk. Oh and also, youre really comparing 25 misses to 9 and saying its easier....WHAT....
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Old 07-9-2018, 07:14 PM   #26
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Ugh

Welcome 2 Omnicore best score 327 - 74 - 14 - 9 - 12- 136

Unpause the heat - 158 - 26 - 1 - 25 - 8 - 135
Ok now I double dog dare you to go play a level 60 song !!!
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No but seriously, i dont see anything wrong with these files? Or is it just me. I just played them both and the first 100 notes of unpause was harder to PA than the whole omnicore file. Tell me again how its easier? If you can PA unpause you should be able to SDG omnicore.
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Ok now I double dog dare you to go play a level 60 song !!!
I did a 73 song and got - 432 - 53 - 18 - 12 - 12 - 308
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No but seriously, i dont see anything wrong with these files? Or is it just me. I just played them both and the first 100 notes of unpause was harder to PA than the whole omnicore file. Tell me again how its easier? If you can PA unpause you should be able to SDG omnicore.
I just can't do Onmicore for some reason not sure, i find it harder....
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You can't gauge the whole difficulty of a 900+ note file by playing less than 200 notes
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You can't gauge the whole difficulty of a 900+ note file by playing less than 200 notes
who, me? Ive already aaad both. I was just refreshing my memory of what the charts were haha
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You can't gauge the whole difficulty of a 900+ note file by playing less than 200 notes
The thing is length shouldn't be a factor on the level of the song in my opinion
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I just can't do Onmicore for some reason not sure, i find it harder....
So because you find it harder the difficulty on it is wrong?

Also, length should absolutely be a factor. A key factor at that
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The thing is length shouldn't be a factor on the level of the song in my opinion
Why ?
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So because you find it harder the difficulty on it is wrong?
Yes cause the higher level songs should be harder right? not easier i played 1 51 song and 72 song which were easier then the 41 song.....
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So because you find it harder the difficulty on it is wrong?

Also, length should absolutely be a factor. A key factor at that
everyone is subject to there own opinion
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The thing is length shouldn't be a factor on the level of the song in my opinion
Bruh

I have a mental deficiency that makes me incapable of AAAing something over 2 minutes long, no matter the rating
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who, me? Ive already aaad both. I was just refreshing my memory of what the charts were haha
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The thing is length shouldn't be a factor on the level of the song in my opinion
Length isn't the point here unless the song is super long. 200 notes out of a 900+ isn't even halfway through. There might be harder parts before or during the middle, or closer to the end. You can't gauge difficulty by only playing the intro of a song that isn't even 2 minutes long.
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Yes cause the higher level songs should be harder right? not easier i played 1 51 song and 72 song which were easier then the 41 song.....
Im sorry but im going to call bullshit on this. I think you need a better understanding on how this game works, clearly. You cant half ass 3 songs and say the harder ones are easier. If they were they wouldnt be rated higher.
Ill state this again, go try to aaa both the 41 and 51 and tell me which ones harder?

Edit: Omnicore is pretty straightforward, no way in hell a 70s song was easier.
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99% of songs drop towards the middle or the end lol, play stepfile this or something, if u judged it by the first 200 notes then there's no point
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