Stealing....Yay or Nay?

Hamsterbeat · 07-7-2004, 10:29 AM

Quite frankly in my persecptive, stealing is not that bad. It really depends on what you steal. I take over-priced manga and snacks, while others steal large amounts of stuff. Some of my friends, like Lupin aruge that stealing is in fact a stupid thing.

The only waya stealing is stupid is if u get caught. Then your stupid. If u don't get caught, then its the damn bookstores fault that they don't have a tighter security system. All in alll, I just wanted to hear your ideas on this......

~Mr.Hamsterbeat

dmleet · 07-7-2004, 11:02 AM

I'm neutral to it. I steal when someone stole from me first. I get it back by stealing what's mine, and possibly beat the guy up for stealing from me. I've done this same thing a lot of times, but I have never started the stealing.

Belgarion · 07-7-2004, 11:07 AM

Not really a big fan of stealing. I've stolen before, and it just makes me feel guilty. IMO it will all catch up to you at some point.

qualy · 07-7-2004, 11:15 AM

I don't just because it forces me into a huge guilt trip.

scorpio1690 · 07-7-2004, 11:44 AM

I steal things to get back at the person, I won't go out of my way to steal something, I use to steal candy from the corner store but then I just stopped.

**Specforces** · 07-7-2004, 11:53 AM

Don't be such a klepto. Stealing things is stupid, if you are too poor to get things, die, or get a job.

**Freak83** · 07-7-2004, 12:04 PM

^ Right on.

CyanoticXtC · 07-7-2004, 12:07 PM

Agreed with Spec..

ananana · 07-7-2004, 12:08 PM

It makes the prices go up.

Oh, and..

Quote:

The only waya stealing is stupid is if u get caught. Then your stupid. If u don't get caught, then its the damn bookstores fault that they don't have a tighter security system.

No, it's all your fault. You have a brain. Use it.

blitzmage · 07-7-2004, 12:27 PM

All you damn cheap ass stealers make us pay more. =(
Kids don't steal, get a job, get some money and buy the items like you should.

QreepyBORIS · 07-7-2004, 12:39 PM

*Yea
*Nae (Maybe it's Nea, too, but I don't think so...meh).

Depends what you steal, from whom.

IAMTHEEVILBEAN · 07-7-2004, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamsterbeat

Quite frankly in my persecptive, stealing is not that bad. It really depends on what you steal. I take over-priced manga and snacks, while others steal large amounts of stuff. Some of my friends, like Lupin aruge that stealing is in fact a stupid thing.

The only waya stealing is stupid is if u get caught. Then your stupid. If u don't get caught, then its the damn bookstores fault that they don't have a tighter security system. All in alll, I just wanted to hear your ideas on this......

~Mr.Hamsterbeat

You are an idiot.

Stealing just proves that you are goig to be a lazy good for nothing when you grow older. You can't even work for things.

evilbutterfly · 07-7-2004, 03:21 PM

I think it's funny that a lot of you say stealing is bad and terrible, but many of you have downloaded songs for Stepmania that you don't own. That's stealing, too. I bet 99% of you have something on your computer that isn't free that you downloaded for free. I'm guilty of it, and so are most of you.

As for stealing things like, from a store, I wouldn't do it. Too easy to get caught, it drives up prices, it makes me feel bad, etc etc. Bootleg games and music so much better, really. It doesn't drive up the prices, it's easier to do, and it doesn't seem as bad, so you aren't guilty.

And for the record, the games I download don't get played that much. I played the UT2004 demo just as much as I played the full UT2004 game. I might go out and buy it one day so I can play online, but I don't play any one game enough to make a major investment. Some games, such as Half Life 2, I download and then say "Wow, this game is awesome. I HAVE to get this game!" So I'm not stealing from the company, I'm trying before I buy. What I do now is comparable to having a friend who owns the game and you borrow it until you beat it, then you give it back and uninstall from your computer.

**Moogy** · 07-7-2004, 03:28 PM

Why bother buying something if it's already downloaded? PC games suck anyway, might as well not spend any money on them.

BluE_MeaniE · 07-7-2004, 03:33 PM

No, I do not steal. And I think stealing is a terrible idea.
Now, like Evilbutterfly said,

Quote:

I bet 99% of you have something on your computer that isn't free that you downloaded for free. I'm guilty of it, and so are most of you.

But the fact is, that is generally more accepted in society. Which, of course, does not make it any more wrong, but there's much more of a debate to that. And I do, often, feel bad about that. But again, that doesn't make it any better.

But stealing from bookstores and stealing candy? Jeez, I don't get how there's even a debate. I would never steal from there, and in my mind, it's just clearly and undeniably wrong. But I guess it's not the same for everyone.

Stealing? Nay.

evilbutterfly · 07-7-2004, 03:41 PM

Well, sometimes I'd buy because I can't play them online unless they're legit, and usually playing online is what adds all the replay value.

And here's a fun thing to think about: Illegal downloading now is as common and accepted as illegal drinking was back during prohibition.

Afrobean · 07-7-2004, 05:28 PM

Stealing from "Big Business" is acceptable in my book. Examples of this include: bootleg movies, bootleg games, and illegal mp3s. I'd never actually steal form a store or something though.

BluE_MeaniE · 07-7-2004, 05:52 PM

What about a big chain store that sells movies and/or games and/or music?

That seeems the same to me.

**Squeek** · 07-7-2004, 05:56 PM

Leeching on torrents is just as bad as stealing.

If you leech without seeding later you should be shot.

~Squeek

PS - Stealing REAL things? No man. What goes through your head that makes you think it's OK? GET MONEY...LEGALLY.

Lupin_the_3rd · 07-7-2004, 06:33 PM

hamsterbeat, there is a distinct difference between stealing from a main store and stealing from tiny privately owned business. Syntaxcrash (you probably don't know) stole a bunch of stuff from a store in appalachia while we were working as part of a program to fix up houses down there (how ironic). For gods sake...they're worried about having enough one dollar bills, nevermind having items stolen from them.

There is also a difference for when you steal to survive or support your family and to steal, seeking attention. I bet nobody here has ever stolen something they actually needed.

if you think cheating on a test isn't fair, neither is stealing. it's a way to get more in life without earning it.

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07-7-2004, 10:29 AM	#1
Hamsterbeat FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The basement of the rest of your life Posts: 131	Stealing....Yay or Nay? Quite frankly in my persecptive, stealing is not that bad. It really depends on what you steal. I take over-priced manga and snacks, while others steal large amounts of stuff. Some of my friends, like Lupin aruge that stealing is in fact a stupid thing. The only waya stealing is stupid is if u get caught. Then your stupid. If u don't get caught, then its the damn bookstores fault that they don't have a tighter security system. All in alll, I just wanted to hear your ideas on this...... ~Mr.Hamsterbeat

07-7-2004, 11:02 AM	#2
dmleet FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Where I'm at. Posts: 443	I'm neutral to it. I steal when someone stole from me first. I get it back by stealing what's mine, and possibly beat the guy up for stealing from me. I've done this same thing a lot of times, but I have never started the stealing. __________________ You cannot possibly have a room any better than this.

07-7-2004, 11:07 AM	#3
Belgarion FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 35 Posts: 66	Not really a big fan of stealing. I've stolen before, and it just makes me feel guilty. IMO it will all catch up to you at some point. __________________

07-7-2004, 11:53 AM	#6
Specforces Yes Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 5,028	Don't be such a klepto. Stealing things is stupid, if you are too poor to get things, die, or get a job. __________________ Check Out My Music

07-7-2004, 11:15 AM	#4
qualy FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Age: 34 Posts: 864	I don't just because it forces me into a huge guilt trip.

07-7-2004, 11:44 AM	#5
scorpio1690 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: canada eh? Age: 33 Posts: 4,817	I steal things to get back at the person, I won't go out of my way to steal something, I use to steal candy from the corner store but then I just stopped.

07-7-2004, 12:04 PM	#7
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	^ Right on.

07-7-2004, 12:07 PM	#8
CyanoticXtC FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Aviano, Italy Age: 38 Posts: 259	Agreed with Spec.. __________________

07-7-2004, 12:27 PM	#10
blitzmage Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 34 Posts: 506	All you damn cheap ass stealers make us pay more. =( Kids don't steal, get a job, get some money and buy the items like you should.

07-7-2004, 12:39 PM	#11
QreepyBORIS FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: It is a mystery. Age: 33 Posts: 7,454	Yea Nae (Maybe it's Nea, too, but I don't think so...meh). Depends what you steal, from whom. __________________ Signature subject to change. THE ZERRRRRG.

07-7-2004, 03:21 PM	#13
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 37 Posts: 5,784	I think it's funny that a lot of you say stealing is bad and terrible, but many of you have downloaded songs for Stepmania that you don't own. That's stealing, too. I bet 99% of you have something on your computer that isn't free that you downloaded for free. I'm guilty of it, and so are most of you. As for stealing things like, from a store, I wouldn't do it. Too easy to get caught, it drives up prices, it makes me feel bad, etc etc. Bootleg games and music so much better, really. It doesn't drive up the prices, it's easier to do, and it doesn't seem as bad, so you aren't guilty. And for the record, the games I download don't get played that much. I played the UT2004 demo just as much as I played the full UT2004 game. I might go out and buy it one day so I can play online, but I don't play any one game enough to make a major investment. Some games, such as Half Life 2, I download and then say "Wow, this game is awesome. I HAVE to get this game!" So I'm not stealing from the company, I'm trying before I buy. What I do now is comparable to having a friend who owns the game and you borrow it until you beat it, then you give it back and uninstall from your computer. __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

07-7-2004, 03:28 PM	#14
Moogy 嗚呼 Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 34 Posts: 10,303	Why bother buying something if it's already downloaded? PC games suck anyway, might as well not spend any money on them. __________________ Plz visit my blog ^^^ vintage signature from like 2006 preserved

07-7-2004, 03:41 PM	#16
evilbutterfly FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Small town, TN Age: 37 Posts: 5,784	Well, sometimes I'd buy because I can't play them online unless they're legit, and usually playing online is what adds all the replay value. And here's a fun thing to think about: Illegal downloading now is as common and accepted as illegal drinking was back during prohibition. __________________ So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =( In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz. So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright. And I write the blog for their website. Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

07-7-2004, 05:28 PM	#17
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Stealing from "Big Business" is acceptable in my book. Examples of this include: bootleg movies, bootleg games, and illegal mp3s. I'd never actually steal form a store or something though. __________________

07-7-2004, 05:56 PM	#19
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Leeching on torrents is just as bad as stealing. If you leech without seeding later you should be shot. ~Squeek PS - Stealing REAL things? No man. What goes through your head that makes you think it's OK? GET MONEY...LEGALLY.

07-7-2004, 06:33 PM	#20
Lupin_the_3rd FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,665	hamsterbeat, there is a distinct difference between stealing from a main store and stealing from tiny privately owned business. Syntaxcrash (you probably don't know) stole a bunch of stuff from a store in appalachia while we were working as part of a program to fix up houses down there (how ironic). For gods sake...they're worried about having enough one dollar bills, nevermind having items stolen from them. There is also a difference for when you steal to survive or support your family and to steal, seeking attention. I bet nobody here has ever stolen something they actually needed. if you think cheating on a test isn't fair, neither is stealing. it's a way to get more in life without earning it.

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