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Old 03-3-2016, 12:57 PM   #21
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have characters be featured in other games before their own releases, ie Roy in melee and Corrin in smash 4
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fetch quests all the damn time even though you are a hero of sorts
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Old 03-3-2016, 04:08 PM   #24
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ingGameCliches

full list of the above: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...VTropesVersion

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Old 03-3-2016, 06:03 PM   #25
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yep! already looked at these lists, and even looked at pages for some of my favorite jrpgs. I want more of a personal list, tropes that people are familiar with in some of their favorites as well.
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You can always tell who's an eventual party member because they actually look like they have some effort put into their individual design instead of copy-and-paste x5000000000.
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Old 03-3-2016, 07:49 PM   #27
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-Female childhood friend becomes protagonist's love interest, but they're both pretty quiet about how they really feel

-Protagonist is an orphan or the child of a single parent

-Home town gets ambushed / attacked

-"I know you're trying to save the world and everything, but I'm still going to demand 50000 gil if you want to buy this more powerful weapon equip"

-Enemies become more powerful as you traverse through the world. Man, it's a fucking good thing you didn't start your adventure in some other place where the monsters are tougher, because you'd never make it out alive! Towards the end of the game you are fighting slimes more powerful than the bosses you fought towards the start of the game.

-Somehow people can die to advance the plot, even though you have Revives / Phoenix Down equivalents / etc.

-You're leaving the fate of the world in the hands of a couple kids/teenagers? Wtf are all the adults doing?

-You fight some boss who has all these cool spells, massive HP, and they join your party after you defeat them, aaandd... suddenly all their stats have been nerfed.

-The Chancellor is always a bad guy in disguise. The real one's being held captive in a chest somewhere.
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Old 03-3-2016, 11:27 PM   #28
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>fashion accessories like bracelets, rings, etc. somehow give stat boosts when equipped to characters

>somehow you're able to hold an unlimited amount of money when things like debit and credit cards don't exist in traditional rpgs. where does it all go??????????

>restoring elemental crystals to save the world bullshit

>elemental attack and spell system to add sustenance to a hack-and-slash

>YOU'RE ACTUALLY INSIDE A VIDEO GAME ALL ALONG AND NONE OF IT WAS REAL (re: star ocean 3)

>obligatory underage loli/shota party member(s)

>obligatory dark skinned party member to add racial diversity

>japanese characters that look like white people with crazy hair

>weapons of "legends" are always the strongest equipment in the game (re: excalibur and ragnarok)

>weight does not exist in giant weapons or heavy armour

>skinny characters with a clear lack of strength swinging giant swords around effortlessly

>there is always some kind of war

>npcs that repeat themselves forever

>npcs that walk around aimlessly in circles

>female characters wearing skirts and dresses in cold climate areas and being unaffected

>all shops, regardless of what they sell, are pawn shops that will buy anything from you

>instant cures for poison, blindness, paralysis, petrification, etc. mid-battle

>taking drugs to instantaneously boost stats mid-battle without any consequences

>hacking and slashing without any blood spewing out or with any visible trauma

>mother fucking DRAGONS

>slimes and jellies

>bandits and thieves that always steal your money in battle

>ninja class characters can throw anything in your inventory

>limitless inventory. how and where does it all go?????????

>pitch dark areas that always require some sort of light source in the form of an item or skill in order to progress

>reviving after death like nothing happened. characters never truly die and stay dead

>rescuing someone you just met after they've been kidnapped and held captive

>forcefully and dramatically being separated from your childhood friend early in the game only to be miraculously reunited later on

>meeting random stranger that looks exactly like said childhood friend prior to reuniting with your childhood friend
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Old 03-4-2016, 02:57 AM   #29
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If you want realtime tropes from jrpgs, watching one would not hurt a bit. Binge watching Sword Art Online & Log Horizon can fill those agendas just sayin'.

Or you could just, you know, look at Ragnarok easily one of the biggest jrpgs out there and tally your list on that.


One of the biggest jrpg tropes that I can find that is 100% separate from regular RPGs, is that jrpgs tend to have some other form of leveling besides bulletpoint level in terms of offense & defense. Such as, profession, for example. Like merchant levels, job levels, tailor, alchemist, etc.. jrpgs practically started that trend.
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Old 03-4-2016, 03:23 AM   #30
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it seems like we're starting to just list tropes rather than ones that we find to be the best,
or prolly not - but there's alooooot more here than i thought people would like.

to counter this, imma list tropes i hate
>the less clothes and skimpier the female's outfits, the better their stats are - GD
>"over" sexualization in general
>you're the chosen one
i dont wanna be the chosen one just let me progress and become powerful on my own without some prophecy being made
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Old 03-4-2016, 07:14 AM   #31
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to counter this, imma list tropes i hate
>the less clothes and skimpier the female's outfits, the better their stats are - GD
>"over" sexualization in general
>you're the chosen one
i dont wanna be the chosen one just let me progress and become powerful on my own without some prophecy being made
Actually agree with both of these.

2nd one is just sheer plot convenience for when writers wanna be lazy

but the whole sexual clothing thing

And it's less about "over sexualizing" anyone for me. It's more about explaining how it makes sense.

Like I even see like a female character with their tits out and it's like

ok she has a rack and you wanna show it cool

some tighter lighter armor there would both make more sense, and accomplish the same thing probably

might as well tattoo "aim here since you're looking here anyways" to their chests at that point.

Oh and the heels one

Let me side tangent to anime for a sec, because it applies to both

I'm a megafan of Madoka Magica

but if someone could fucking explain why most of those characters

ARE IN FUCKING HEELS.

I'd love to hear you out, but the sexualization one doesn't work there tho.

I can over look a skirt w/e because I dunno what wearing one is like seems like it might give some better movement, but still reveals more than needed it's dumb to some degree

but I have worn heels and uh, despite being able to walk in them alright

I can't understand why you'd ever fucking wear them in the first fucking place

let alone fight in them

the fuck

/sorry might have gone off topic a little

tldr: Heels and over-revealing clothing on either gender, is stupid. I hate it when it gets overdone.

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Old 03-4-2016, 08:50 AM   #32
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why are zero suit samus and bayonetta wearing heels?


and palutena and peach.

but sheik still overpowers them all.
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Old 03-4-2016, 09:59 AM   #33
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technology for electricity, technology to develop machinery, clear understanding of how engines work, yet none of these motherfuckers have anything resembling cars or modern infrastructure

looking chrono trigger and at breath of fire 3 here, like these people seriously couldn't have reverse-engineered engines of things to create car engines given the already Newton-like competence of female inventors? horseshit
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technology for electricity, technology to develop machinery, clear understanding of how engines work, yet none of these motherfuckers have anything resembling cars or modern infrastructure

looking chrono trigger and at breath of fire 3 here, like these people seriously couldn't have reverse-engineered engines of things to create car engines given the already Newton-like competence of female inventors? horseshit
CT has jetbikes that drive on roads, close enough rite

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You're capable of jumping up 50 feet in the air during spell/attack animations... but if you're just walking around on the map and you encounter a high platform or ledge? Forget about it -- you're taking the long way.

Similarly, you can destroy hugely powerful enemies... but can't plow your way through a normal door or fence.

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it seems like we're starting to just list tropes rather than ones that we find to be the best,
this is perfectly fine

I thought of an idea for a jrpg a few night ago and I can't stop thinking about it so I've decided to slowly start working on it, and I'm pretty sure I've never seen any video game with the same idea I have. I need as many tropes as I can find!
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-The majority of the "biggest town" is unexplorable and is instead relegated to a very pretty wallpaper like scene where nothing moves.

-The goodie twoshoes character in the party has reservations about entering someone's backyard/fenced in area, and makes you get a key/permission to enter a house via some item quest. Once inside the house, has no qualms about looting the place silly.
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I just want to say I much enjoyed reading this thread
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-Obligatory masamune somewhere

-When you defeat a super secret boss, the reward is often useless by this point in the game (e.g. beating Ruby Weapon in FF7 gets you some Desert Rose thing that nets you a Gold Chocobo, which is needed to get the Knights of the Round materia -- but odds are that's the very materia you used to beat Ruby Weapon in the first place)

-One of your party members has royal blood / a special background of some sort, oftentimes revealed partway into the game

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tldr: Heels and over-revealing clothing on either gender, is stupid. I hate it when it gets overdone.
there can be some silly stuff for no reason, there doesnt have to be a reason for anything actually, but outfits like killa kill and gurren lagann(mainly Yoko) is more than unreasonable, it's unnecessary.
You can still do that if ya want, no one can stop you
look at what kojima did to Quiet(Tixijj) in mgsv,
"Quiet wore a minimal amount of clothing at all times because she could only breathe through her skin following parasite-treatment" (WIKI)
bruuuuh why she even need those ripped up leggings we know what you doin dont even try to hide ittt

also, second the masamune thing
you dont even gotta make it an obtainable weapon just throw it in there
what kinda jrpg dont have a masumune?


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