TWG Turbo V: Everyone Pretend to be the Seer Postgame

[thesunfan]

Players
1) danceflashrevo Vanilla Town, Killed n2
2) juckter1 Seer, Won at endgame
3) AragakiAyase Wolf, Lynched d1
4) Precarious Wolf Lynched d2
5) R.E. Aryxi Vanilla Town, Won at endgame
6) James May wineandbread Vanilla Town, Won at endgame
7) MixMasterLar Vanilla Town, Won at endgame
8) ShadoWolfe Vanilla Town, Lynched d0
9) Hakulyte Vanilla Town, Killed n1
Replacements
1) wineandbread
2) _Zenith_

More from me when I get back from class

[AragakiAyase]

dfr get rekt

[Charu]

Ya did it town. Ya got your first turbo win.

[Charu]

One immediate thing.

I see what you were going for Pre, but I think the better option would be to either vote for your partner or don't vote at all (Or leave it where it was at).

[Charu]

Other than that, I think you were acting too much like the previous cancelled game.

[Charu]

Oh, and for town:



Ya did it

[Charu]

PS, James May, you're dumb, LOL

[botchi246]

wheee go town

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Charu

Other than that, I think you were acting too much like the previous cancelled game.

i got this vibe a ton as i followed along, though i had a tougher time finding AA until the end of that second day there

this game was very funny to read for me after prec looked red again. real life me is very glad i was not in this though

[juckter1]

Why kill dfr tho?

[AragakiAyase]

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=145654

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i got this vibe a ton as i followed along, though i had a tougher time finding AA until the end of that second day there

this game was very funny to read for me after prec looked red again. real life me is very glad i was not in this though

lol I imploded day 2, I actually thought MML was pretty towny (obviously I knew), but juckter put it pretty well when he said I was grasping at straws

I should've pushed on arxyi or james

[Charu]

James would've been easier, he wasn't even here

[Charu]

Oh, one other thing (Sorry for posting a lot, SHIET).

I think the lynch on Shadowolfe was kind of garbage tier and I want all of you to look back on that phase and understand why it was a garbage tier lynch.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Precarious

Some general observations:

EoD was a disaster that largely came about because I was busy periodically throughout the day and made mistakes trying to catch up and compress too much stuff into the last few minutes. Essentially what happened was that I caught the kitb situation with about 30 seconds to go. I was hesitant to bus AA under the circumstances (the math just doesn't work out), I had been too aggressive on the town MML front previously to vote him without making it obvious what was going on, and I saw a red James higher up on the page, so without time to check I voted James, conceding in effect that I wasn't actually the seer. This was a bad enough situation even before RNG capsized our wolven ship. (But we were taking on water anyway, so...)

In the future, I'll probably just do regular games and only periodically turbos; the timeframe becomes really problematic for me unless I have absolutely nothing else going on, since my playstyle doesn't really lend itself to the one sentence posts that are kind of necessary to keep up with the thread in 12 hour days.

I will say that I don't think the format is entirely balanced; I'm not sure it's been realized just how incredibly gamebreaking the mass seer claiming is. What that allows town to do is guarantee that the seer results are available without actually outing the seer. It's a very powerful role (and thus a very powerful tactic) in such a small game; there's no elbow room, because even green results are especially meaningful when there are so few players. That doesn't even account for how trapped players can get by their false reads. I can't speak to past turbo games here (where it sounds like the seer got killed D/N1 a lot somehow), but eliminating the N0 check would probably help out a lot. That seems better than banning the tactic altogether imo.

Anyways, apologies to AA for how the day ended yesterday. Good game town.

Gonna answer this here because yeah.

Just want to point out to our good pal Pre here that wolves, before this win, have always won this setup. However, this was a first that everyone claimed (or said something of the fact).

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Charu

Oh, one other thing (Sorry for posting a lot, SHIET).

I think the lynch on Shadowolfe was kind of garbage tier and I want all of you to look back on that phase and understand why it was a garbage tier lynch.

hella hedging there, snivy - it was really bad

AA did a great job playing the skeptic, but gg town if AA had to do it

e: i read shado's snippet of deadchat - "Precarious wolf, yes?" hehu

[ShadoWolfe]

lols this game was a trainwreck that got compounded into a bigger trainwreck. Shoutouts to Juckter and the RNG gods, you're the Heroes of the Hour!

[ShadoWolfe]

Oh. Here's two relevant parts of a longer rant in deadchat, which is pastebinned here: http://pastebin.com/gsVmw4x4

Everyone should read the above pastebin, but MML most of all, because he's trigger happy, tunnels way too hard, and made a couple of shit plays this game. Also, he needs to get his memory checked:

From BOATS OOTC:
"[2:13 AM] MixMasterLar: Lemme ask you something, this time.
[2:14 AM] Wolfe: Go for it.
[2:14 AM] MixMasterLar: Why do you prefer being a wolf? what's the best part of it?
[2:14 AM] Wolfe: Well, you have to understand that most of my experience is IRL
[2:14 AM] Wolfe: IRL, wolf is just absolutely the funnest role
[2:15 AM] Wolfe: Village townie is totes boring irl. Here, I'm actually enjoying it because there's so much discussion
[2:15 AM] Wolfe: IRL it's like, BAM phase over BAM phase over BAM phase over
[2:16 AM] Wolfe: so cop and mafia are funnest because you get to actually engage
[2:16 AM] Wolfe: Idk what wolf is like online, I've never played one in MafiaScum and I'm not one here
[2:16 AM] MixMasterLar: Word
[2:17 AM] Wolfe: So yeah, when I said, "I wanted to be wolf"
[2:17 AM] Wolfe: It's definitely true because I wanted a special role
[2:17 AM] Wolfe: but like, the more I play this with y'all
[2:18 AM] Wolfe: every single person is equally important, and it's fascinating to see the interplay of actually discussion and logic, as opposed the bullshit I was exposed to on mafiascum and the significant loss of content that comes with fast-paced IRL games
[2:19 AM] Wolfe: Idk if that makes sense to you, but I tried to explain it as best I could
[2:19 AM] MixMasterLar: No it makes sense
[2:19 AM] MixMasterLar: I agree, it's a fresh game experience for sure"

From BOATS main game thread, shortly after my introduction:

[2:06 AM] Wolfe: Oh, further reference for the amnesiac twat:

[2:08 AM] Wolfe: Initial XelNya probe into my experience:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=148

Initial response:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=157

MML chiming in (seriously stop smoking so much dank weed and your memory will get better, ya twat):
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=159

My response to MML, referencing my IRL games and lack of online experience:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=160

XelNya's response, saying that I shouldn't play the noob card and expect to get away with it:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=161

Read the pastebin!
Or read the whole deadchat, but making that public isn't up to me.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by inDheart

hella hedging there, snivy - it was really bad

AA did a great job playing the skeptic, but gg town if AA had to do it

e: i read shado's snippet of deadchat - "Precarious wolf, yes?" hehu

You read the full thing? Wow, and you weren't even in the game :O
You're playing in AA's game, right? Town missed ya this game >.>

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

One immediate thing.

I see what you were going for Pre, but I think the better option would be to either vote for your partner or don't vote at all (Or leave it where it was at).

Precarious played well, although semi-robotically. My issue with his vote on james was that, if he was avoiding voting MML to avoid a vote on his green check, then he would've remembered that James was his green check the day before!