Ingame Songs/Stepfiles Discussion Thread

[t-rogdor]

Originally Posted by bluguerrilla

I feel like I'm following you around telling you 'no'.

What are you, my internet dad?

[Quasar889]

So I just played Kommissario's Master Maid file (purchased) and I have a few comments:

One: Are the 32nd rolls really necessary? Those were basically the ONLY place I lost combo, and it was really frustrating.

Two: There were some challenging patterns (notably the section with the 24ths interspersed (drum break-ish) ) that I really enjoyed

Three: It's a great song, but parts of it are pretty hard compared to others. There are two sections of jumpstream where I was literally banging my head against my desk when I missed a note or two...

I don't think it's off-sync, I just think parts are over-layered.

Great song, well worth the 2500 creds, so get playing!

[robertsona]

Toxiferious was a nice debut, even if he had a file under debit13.
The patterns flowed REALLY nicely, probably because he's a good player and knows what feels right.
The patterns and rhythms seemed correct.
The song was a little sucky but nice file overall.

[Shashakiro]

finally, my summertime files are all released

Holy Orders, Momentary Life, Brandish Headless...what did y'all think of them? Always interested in feedback, especially for these which were all done after my GH obsession, haha.

p.s. SSH is still god.

[robertsona]

**** sux ***


JK LUV IT

[dragonruler12128]

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

I don't get why people think keeping the "proper" full song is preferable to not getting bored while playing the game (for widgets of course it's necessary but otherwise not really at all).

By the way, aside from that I will say that from what I've played it seems like most of the newer files are extremely well made, especially the 10's and 11's, so the judging process is still as great as it ever was (although I'm sure people are still whining constantly about it, just like when I was a judge).

Look to answear why you don't get it. Is simply because people actually want the full songs because that is what they listen to in real life. They don't want no cut up hack job of a song that can't do the original justice. All that personal feelings crap aside. Dance music is ment to be very long in general. Trying to shorten a dance song is like wrestling an alligator. You MIGHT MIGHT win but in the end your not leaveing without bumps, bruises, and cuts, etc etc etc. So dont insult the original artists and play the full length song. Another thing about you personally. Your lame as hell if your gonna get bored playing the same song for more then 4 minutes. What is 3 and 1/2 minutes fine and exciteing but 4 which is just another 30 f''in seconds longer just too long. I absolutely dispise people like you. I bet you get pissed off at your microwave whenever it takes longer then 30 secondes to cook ya hot dogs. roflmao. When you mature enough to realize 5 mintues isn't 5 hours you can post again on this forum. Untill then stop whinnin like a lil baby and go get some ADD and ADHD medicine.

[Patashu]

nice first post

retort: most dance music also repeats itself, so if you make a cut such that every unique facet of the song is included you lose nothing

[t-rogdor]

Hey guys, FFR Needs more files like I Hate The 80s; kthnxbai.

Edit: Crisco Disco or Face Blast would be good.

[Shashakiro]

Originally Posted by dragonruler12128

pretty amusing post

1. You quoted a post that's around half a year old, way to go.
2. I stand by my point from back then anyway. FFR is a game first and a showcase of musical artistry second. Games are less fun when they're repetitive. Cutting repetitive songs makes the game less repetitive, and thus more fun.
3. Many of my favorite songs are in the 5-10 minute range. That doesn't mean I think they're good for FFR (though most of them aren't repetitive anyway).
4. You're telling me I can't post here with your first post. It's not like me to be pompous, but that's pretty damn ironic.

XD

[spEXartELITan]

dragonruler there is a difference between reading about quantum mechanics for five hours and watching grass grow for five hours. then again the similarity that they share is that theyre both hard to do. the beauty of a microwave is you can do something else while you wait for ya hotdogs, unless you prefer to for some reason simply watch and waste your life

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by robertsona

Toxiferious was a nice debut, even if he had a file under debit13.
The patterns flowed REALLY nicely, probably because he's a good player and knows what feels right.
The patterns and rhythms seemed correct.
The song was a little sucky but nice file overall.

Thanks.

Now someone teach me to layer instruments better, cause I can't do it. Pad step-artist + layering = doesn't coincide well. =.=

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Thanks.

Now someone teach me to layer instruments better, cause I can't do it. Pad step-artist + layering = doesn't coincide well. =.=

how do I layer instrument???

Step One: Pick the instrument with the most PR or column sensitive potential and step that.
Step Two: Pick the next one or two prominent instruments and add in arrows on top of the first instrument where they appear. Re-arrange patterns if they are cumbersome (flood over onto one hand too much, repeat the same kinds of patterns/jumps too much, create 16th minijacks or create 8th jacks in one column needlessly)

As an example of how you'd post-arrange sounds, the main melody might be descending so you'd go:

...4
..3.
.2..
1...
...4
..3.
.2..
1...
...4
..3.
.2..
1...
etc

and there's also a snare on every beat so you layer that in:

1..4
..3.
.2..
1...
.2.4
..3.
.2..
1...
.2.4
..3.
.2..
1...
etc

But you're not pleased with the feel it creates (the 123212321 pattern it's forming) so you re-arrange it to give a sense of descending while keeping the layering intact:

1..4
..3.
.2..
1...
..34
.2..
...4
..3.
1..4
..3.
.2..
1...

or

1..4
..3.
.2..
1...
..34
.2..
..3.
1...
.2.4
..3.
.2..
1...
..34
.2..
..3.
1...
.2.4
..3.
.2..
1...

Common situations where you'd have to rearrange a PR melody to better layer with is when you throw in a triplet on top of a constant stream and have to re-arrange it to add or remove minijacks as is appropriate or if you want to add a minijacking instrument in without anything running into anything else needlessly.

You'll probably get the idea of how to layer things smoothly as you practice it

[TC_Halogen]

Ah. Now I get the general gist of it. I understand PR, but layering instruments is something I really need to practice.

Also: I just played I Hate the 80's...goddamnit I hate those LR DU LR 16th notes...if it weren't for those, I could probably FC and AAA. =(

[robertsona]

i hate the 80s was bad :FILE: 2 HARD

[robertsona]

Originally Posted by dragonruler12128

roflmao.

roflmao.

[sc979]

PR in this file is bad

Every BPM change was done by ear. Had to use a couple of high BPMs simply to keep the downbeat on a red note; those BPMs were annoying to find. Highest used was 322. The longest I went without using a BPM change was 14/16ths of a measure.

[roundbox]

I Hate the 80s is FGO goodnight

[t-rogdor]

sc man, what the hell is that song?

[gnr61]

im gonna go ahead and guess "A world of piano"

[Choofers]

It says it on the right. And that song was made in Fruity Loops or something because I have that exact same soundfont hahaha.

Props to Patashu, Thrash was really fun. It could've been so much harder though. But then again, this is FFR. I'm trying to step it for StepMania right now x]