Stepping songs at .1x speed rate or less?

[N.T.M.]

.3x has always been slow enough for me, however right now I'm stepping a synthesized song so all the notes remain crisp regardless of the speed reduction. Some of the really fast bursts are kinda tough to assign notes to though . Is there any way to play a song at .1x or less? Maybe even .05x?

Thanks, guys!

-NiCk

[dandandamdandan1111]

you could possibly edit the metrics.ini

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by dandandamdandan1111

you could possibly edit the metrics.ini

Sounds tough . Would it be?

Seems so weird to me that going down to .1x isn't just standard =/.

[Xandertrax]

You can. You need to edit the Metrics.ini and the english.ini.

this is what I have:
In metrics:
Rate=18,together
RateDefault=
Rate,1=mod,0.15xmusic;name,0.15x
Rate,2=mod,0.2xmusic;name,0.2x
Rate,3=mod,0.25xmusic;name,0.25x
Rate,4=mod,0.3xmusic;name,0.3x
Rate,5=mod,0.35xmusic;name,0.35x
Rate,6=mod,0.4xmusic;name,0.4x
Rate,7=mod,0.45xmusic;name,0.45x
Rate,8=mod,0.5xmusic;name,0.5x
Rate,9=mod,0.6xmusic;name,0.6x
Rate,10=mod,0.7xmusic;name,0.7x
Rate,11=mod,0.8xmusic;name,0.8x
Rate,12=mod,0.9xmusic;name,0.9x
Rate,13=mod,1.0xmusic;name,1.0x
Rate,14=mod,1.1xmusic;name,1.1x
Rate,15=mod,1.2xmusic;name,1.2x
Rate,16=mod,1.3xmusic;name,1.3x
Rate,17=mod,1.4xmusic;name,1.4x
Rate,18=mod,1.5xmusic;name,1.5x

In english: (basically just make it match)

0.15x=0.15x
0.2x=0.2x
0.25x=0.25x
0.3x=0.3x
0.35x=0.35x
0.4x=0.4x
0.45x=0.45x
0.5x=0.5x
0.6x=0.6x
0.7x=0.7x
0.8x=0.8x
0.9x=0.9x
1.0x=1.0x
1.1x=1.1x
1.2x=1.2x
1.3x=1.3x
1.4x=1.4x
1.5x=1.5x

You should be able to find those places, they aren't that hard to find.

Stepping stuff at <.3x isn't very much help though. the song quality just gets too shoddy. Personally, if there are some syncing issues, I stick around .4x. If it's a rhythm problem, then just guess, check with assist tick at .4, fix, repeat.

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by Xandertrax

Stepping stuff at <.3x isn't very much help though. the song quality just gets too shoddy. Personally, if there are some syncing issues, I stick around .4x. If it's a rhythm problem, then just guess, check with assist tick at .4, fix, repeat.

That's why I specified synthesized songs cuz I know things can get severely distorted at just .3x with band music, etc.

Anyways thanks, dude! I'll try to find that.

[Xandertrax]

It's that far down, if you're still looking. The english is pretty short, you can probably find that easily.

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by Xandertrax

It's that far down, if you're still looking. The english is pretty short, you can probably find that easily.

Thanks, dude. I appreciate it.

[DigitalS3r4ph]

idk if it's just me but I think that's pretty bad if you can't tell what type of note a sound is at .3x rate >_>

[Oni-Paranoia]

Originally Posted by DigitalS3r4ph

idk if it's just me but I think that's pretty bad if you can't tell what type of note a sound is at .3x rate >_>

For one, that's True. I commonly can find the right notes at regular rate, and if its a difficult random burst of sh!t like Venetian Snares music, 0.5x works.

For two, editing the metrics.ini wont lower the rate anymore. Its a set system and SM wont allow anything below 0.3x to be used (Zero told me that years ago)

For three, IF your stepping songs at that speed, you realy shouldnt be stepping at all. Unless your file is 'OMG-WTF-AMAZIN-GOODNESS'

[[TeRa]]

There's no need to go down to .3x, you'll just be hearing things you can't even hear on 1.0x.

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by DigitalS3r4ph

idk if it's just me but I think that's pretty bad if you can't tell what type of note a sound is at .3x rate >_>

it could be a live song (or use live samples) and you might be really, really anal about exact 192nd placement

it can't hurt anyway

[who_cares973]

ctrl F xandertra, ctrl f


also DDReam goes down to .1 which is pointless pretty much

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by DigitalS3r4ph

idk if it's just me but I think that's pretty bad if you can't tell what type of note a sound is at .3x rate >_>

You guys need to read the OP.

I'm referring to applying this to a synthesized song in which case extreme speed reduction like that exceeding .3x wouldn't distort the song or permit "ambient" sounds from interferring.

Also the song wouldn't just be stepped at .3x. 1x speed would eb used to find PR.

Holy fuk, you guys need to read before posting.

[PMS~dballin4]

slow the song down in audacity then step the slowed down song. adjust to regular speed when ya done

ps: going past .6x makes everything sound like **** to me and is counterproductive imo

[Patashu]

Originally Posted by PMS~dballin4

slow the song down in audacity then step the slowed down song. adjust to regular speed when ya done

ps: going past .6x makes everything sound like **** to me and is counterproductive imo

depends on the song

if it's a good quality mp3/ogg and there's not too much noice lower rates sound fine

[PMS~dballin4]

maybe that's it. I never bothered using high quality mp3s cuz its stepmania and lol who cares. also, i never cared about stepping every sound in a song cuz im a stepmania geezer and we didnt do **** like that.

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by PMS~dballin4

maybe that's it. I never bothered using high quality mp3s cuz its stepmania and lol who cares. also, i never cared about stepping every sound in a song cuz im a stepmania geezer and we didnt do **** like that.

It's not so much about stepping every sound as it is stepping everything accurately. It also depends on what part you're stepping. You also have to find an optimal speed for whatever part it is. If it's drums you can usually step them at .3x perfectly, but if it's guitar it'll usually sound like a skittle-note fest mostly composed of inaudible sounds at 1x speed. I usually step guitar at .7x unless they're isolated notes.

[PMS~dballin4]

this is also why I used to finish file for a 2 minute song in less than an hour

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by PMS~dballin4

this is also why I used to finish file for a 2 minute song in less than an hour

Synthesized? Even then that's extremely short. I usually put a few hours into every file of mine.

[Shashakiro]

Precise technical accuracy is almost completely pointless at that speed. If you have to go lower than .3x just to figure out what the right note value is, then the section is either too fast for anyone to play without mashing, or too short for it to matter.

If you're going to spend serious time on a file, your time is much better spent testing it and improving the general fun factor, patterns, etc, than making sure that none of your arrows are a thousandth of a second off.