Old 04-10-2018, 10:17 PM   #2501
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:11 PM   #2502
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We don't serve ads, because all artist permissions were granted knowing FFR wouldn't make any money off their music. To change that would mean reaffirming permissions with every artist in-game. Thankfully, we don't need to ask for donations, because all costs associated with hosting the site are paid out of pocket by Synthlight.
I don't think you understood what i was saying....below may help you understand better

When you buy advertising your not making money your spending it....

I wasn't talking about you having ads on http://www.flashflashrevolution.com, was saying buy advertising on websites in the gaming niche so the ffr player base can get bigger, doing this would not make you money. Therefore, it would not breach the non-profit contract or agreement you have with the musicians.

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Old 04-11-2018, 07:42 PM   #2503
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I don't think you get it

Buy ads requires money - revenue

FFR does not generate revenue

Many ways that raise revenue can get in the way of being a not for profit site
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:59 PM   #2504
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I don't think you get it

Buy ads requires money - revenue

FFR does not generate revenue

Many ways that raise revenue can get in the way of being a not for profit site
It would still be a non-profit site, even if they use personal funds for advertising.

So what your saying is, the owners can't even advertise thier own website with personal funds? Which is ridiculous.

I understand they aren't allowed to make earnings from FFR.com aka having ad-sense on the site

They should still be able to promote ffr.com on other gaming websites to get traffic to make the game more populated.

I do understand, thinking you may not cause we are talking about too different things here.....

1. ffr.com isn't allowed to earn revenue, which i understand

2. Is ffr.com allowed to use side income from other means to advertising ffr.com on other platforms?. this is what im talking about and should be allowed, because they aren't making money from it only getting traffic to ffr.com which benefits the community cause it makes more people play the game...

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Old 04-11-2018, 08:07 PM   #2505
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It would still be a non-profit site, even if they use personal funds for promotion aka advertising the domain name on gaming sites.
Why would they use personal, hard earned cash on making a website(thats free to use and doesnt generate revenue) more active? FFR is dead man, you're just going to have to accept that. Also, even YEARS ago before the site went down for 10ish months multiplayer wasnt all that active. There would usually be less than 10 people there at a time.

Sure, getting more people to come here would be great but there really isnt a good way to do that at the moment since the site is kind of locked down with the permissions issue. It would be a completely different story if they had permission for ads and such.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:21 PM   #2506
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Why would they use personal, hard earned cash on making a website(thats free to use and doesnt generate revenue)
Well, there are alot of passionate people like the devs who would and if i were the owner would fork out some personal funds to advertise here and thier if it meant making the game more populated

Yeah non-profit site means a website not making revenue, but does this mean they aren't allowed to promote their website with personal income they made with other means aka ( not generated from ffr.com) This is what im wondering and people "TheSaxRunner05", doesn't seem to get that im asking this.

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Old 04-11-2018, 09:16 PM   #2507
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I don't think you understood what i was saying....below may help you understand better

When you buy advertising your not making money your spending it....

I wasn't talking about you having ads on http://www.flashflashrevolution.com, was saying buy advertising on websites in the gaming niche so the ffr player base can get bigger, doing this would not make you money. Therefore, it would not breach the non-profit contract or agreement you have with the musicians.
We simply cannot sustain paying $50 to get around 100 clicks.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:17 PM   #2508
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We simply cannot sustain paying $50 to get around 100 clicks.
I totally understand that , but everyone was saying you guys weren't allowed to spend money out of pocket on advertising cause its a breach of the non-profit agreement, but knew you were allowed because if you were to spend your own money it wasn't money generated by ffr.com so hence it would be fine to do. Some of the players, were calling me out saying i don't understand.

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I see, but you are allowed to do it if you want?
Yes, we are also allowed to have a $CAD payout on the results screen instead of credits.
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Well, there are alot of passionate people like the devs who would and if i were the owner would fork out some personal funds to advertise here and thier if it meant making the game more populated
People generally don't shell out money to run advertisements for things that aren't going to make them the money back.
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Rhythm games are kind of a niche thing anyway. Chances are if you're into them, you'll find FFR eventually.
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Right, I imagine nowadays if we do get newcomers, it would be their love of rhythm games.

I think advertising for a flash-based rhythm game that was made in 2002 is a bit silly.
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We should just be glad that Synth is using his personal money to keep the servers up at all.
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We should just be glad that Synth is using his personal money to keep the servers up at all.
For some reason, I really doubt this is the case anymore.
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Old 04-12-2018, 09:26 PM   #2518
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My understanding for the bulk of the life of the site, was that his hosting costs were free because he worked for the hosting company in some capacity.
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My understanding for the bulk of the life of the site, was that his hosting costs were free because he worked for the hosting company in some capacity.
There was a change a while ago when FFR was getting DDoSed on a daily basis where he was asked to move the server somewhere else. It's currently being hosted at OVH Canada.
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