TWG CLXXIV - Sounds Like You've got a Problem. - Game Thread

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by TWGma

Bolded is correct. Obviously sunfan hadn't yet outed as the D, nor Raeko flipped as Roleblocker, but that doesn't really effect much.
I'm intrigued to see where you're going with this though.

yeah i'm thinking from the pov of you, wolf, knowing what's on your team and having a guess at the actual number of Ts

so in a godfatherless game you speculating on extra other letters isn't really as bad as however i thought it was before? like it may still be a little weird but it would involve you lying about what you knew about the game state

and of course lying is part of the game, i just don't know why you stick your neck out there otherwise on something that turns out to be wrong anymore

[inDheart]

box/ben seems less likely to me from ben's multiquote in 1011

[inDheart]

is it like

wab/haku?

that makes wab's kinda weird clear of ben that i quoted seem important

is roundbox involved after all and haku's not?

[Wineandbread]

Cake's here, be back in a bit

Here's some fast thoughts from me:

Hakuben: despite voting him in the kitb I only did it to save raeko and now I have to pit my scum lean of his posts on the wagon logistics, and the wagon logistics are mostly winning since I've lost confidence in my reading this game
(to be fair, I don't feel like Haku's posts have been scummy)

I really don't feel like inD would land a hit, but I've been wrong every vote so maybe if I just do the opposite it'll work out?

So I'm basically down to rb/T-Force then, and I would probably lean T-Force between the two first. I encountered some weird vibes iso-ing him just now when he put out that hot take, which I'm now beginning to think could have been a calculated play to disrupt the conversation flow between inD/star

Just tinfoiling I suppose

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Wineandbread

I really don't feel like inD would land a hit, but I've been wrong every vote so maybe if I just do the opposite it'll work out?

please don't actually, you're right the first time on me

[TWGma]

The wait for someone to break the voting ice is agonizing...

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by TWGma

The wait for someone to break the voting ice is agonizing...

i'm actually waiting for roundbox to say w/e before i do anything

also still reading forward again

[inDheart]

if wab is involved then i think roundbox makes the most sense to me as his partner now

he'd have to have named both other wolves in his d2 lynch pool if box wasn't his partner, although neither would be his top lynch candidates

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I'm comfortable voting lar today, maybe ben? they've both been doing setup ThEoRyCrAfTiNg. unfortunately I only think one of these two could be a wolf, I don't really see two wolves trying to be confusing and spout night kill confusion

see this was a thing wab was kind of doing too at the prompting of mml but he doesn't get a mention here

[TWGma]

I just can't see a wolf box putting in that much work and effort on D3 when he'd gotten by coasting (for the most part) previous days.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by TWGma

The wait for someone to break the voting ice is agonizing...

don't say this please

crouching wolf hidden voterush??

also I'm almost done with my post. want me to post what I have now and keep going or what?

[inDheart]

t-force/ben means t-force is attempting some kind of superbus game
box/ben i think their interactions clear
wab/ben possible
box/wab possible
wab/t-force less likely?
t-force/box ... not sure i read into this pair specifically tbh, maybe i need to, but it would also be toward superbussing from t-force's angle

[inDheart]

god

is it t-force/box and i'm getting fooled by my own reading

every reversal i notice as i read forward looks sus to me now

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by inDheart

god

is it t-force/box and i'm getting fooled by my own reading

every reversal i notice as i read forward looks sus to me now

no it's not (from early d3)

aaaaaaaaaa

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by TWGma

I just can't see a wolf box putting in that much work and effort on D3 when he'd gotten by coasting (for the most part) previous days.

i can because he kinda said he'd have the time
also mml wanted him dead a lot

[inDheart]

wab wondering about an SK for so long is wolfy but it's like, in the zone of rather obviously wolfy imo

i don't know what he thinks it gains him

[Hakulyte]

Back home from being at friend's place.

Should be fully here until something happens.

[TWGma]

Originally Posted by inDheart

wab wondering about an SK for so long is wolfy but it's like, in the zone of rather obviously wolfy imo

i don't know what he thinks it gains him

I think another point to add to this is that he suggests it multiple times and in multiple days, iirc.

[inDheart]

haku, how are people's responses to you working out for you?

[roundbox]

fuck it I'm just posting what I have
I haven't seen anything wholly indicating ind is town

366 - inD backs off wv and onto tforce, stating a pretty solid reason for voting him with progression. this removes wv from the lead and places him into kitb with wabby
410 - retroactive mindmeld on the game where blind caught MML. reasoning was shaky, but MML did collapse under blind's pressure. fwiw I don't feel too bad for lynching blind this game

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439 - inD returns to t-force at the beginning of day 1, mostly for same reasons as before
539 - states he has no care for the game, and no reads to boot. I'd say this is pretty accurate for an evaluation of his state. townreads wnb and MML here
star's exchange with ind didn't feel like it was awk at all for either participant, obviously not for star because she's town but it's a good look for inD that she didn't go down gunning for his lynch (she went to ben and ended up unvoting before blind became the lynch). I give this read EXTRA sheep points because she was just a hydra partner with him. I know I sucked at reading raeko but fight me
653 - I still disagree with your evaluation of my post on sunfan. I thought it was a hot toneread
654 - weird shading of sunfan about his posts? or not shading? really wishywashy and I'm not really a fan of this post
658 - posts additional reasoning on t-force, citing his d0 being the culprit here for his scumread and d1 posts being lacking, but not terrible in nature. later questions this read, calls t-force possibly aimless and coasting, later ties it to tforce wolf meta. I disagree that the fg thing is speculation, I really don't believe tforce would have made that kill there
669 - posts some reads, puts mml and wnb on top of town list. consistent with before. sunfan, myself, and star are below him. makes a little sense, I would expect star to be a bit higher based on how he's responding to her ("instead of talking to me she would just post her thoughts in thread... I'm seeing this here" etc.). raeko, blind, and tforce to follow with ben being the lowest of the low. read on me is kinda weird compared to everyone else. not really a pockety read though?
694 - vote on ben for being absent I'm guessing. had like no posts at this time
748 - big hated post on tforce for wanting to commit to his tinfoil of star/sunfan/ind
777 - villagery concern about wagon forming on blind. blind is a bit low on his list so I'm guessing his only problem is that this lynch is too easy
819 - chooses tforce over ben

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it seems like ind had as productive of a d2 as me. I identify with this
just kidding he started a reread
999 - not sure what effen theorem is
1006 - some reread points show him trending t-force down and wabby down too
1030 - SELFISH READ: did you not want to push me more for putting all three of the non-voters into potentially policy territory for some reason?
1047 - more dislike of wabby and ben, ben for Not Voting While Around
1091 - big raeko vote. too early to be bussy, imo. this is especially interesting when paired when he was discussing with MML that the wolves don't likely know the setup which led to star and fg being killed. him icing his own roleblocker after admitting him and his own wolves don't know the setup is ?????????? tier gameplay. I don't think a wolf PR bus looks like this
1146 - "mate I'll fight you"
1180 - should have listened to your take on MML

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1229 - very happy that mml's vote on ben didn't go through. was this a fliparound on ben's alignment?
1300 - does a better raeko dissection post than me