If humans could make dogs immortal, should we?

[Wayward Vagabond]

Oops it's co not co2

[choof]

Originally Posted by QueenAshy

I feel like my life has become a modern day retelling of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

[Charu]

Ayy...

I feel like that was me ages ago. I'm pretty nasty when I get angry, and I just don't like showing it.

[the sun fan]

jesus christ on a cross
EDIT: I could've done it. I really, really could've made it until you said you were complicit with eating meat, but also compared butchering turkeys to the Holocaust. I really, really could've handled it up until then.

You experience reality on a different plane than everyone else, or something, Ashy. The lifespan of dogs is not a problem that needs to be addressed. For whatever fucking reason on this planet, they live as long as they do. Humans do not have an obligation to increase their lifespan, and if we attempted to, it would fail. Dogs are meant to live as long as they do, its very clear. I cannot explain this concept further.

I can understand not liking euthanasia. I respect someone who makes an educated reason for not liking it. I even think I understand why you don't like it.

But

Don't you ever fucking dare impose those beliefs on someone else. Don't you ever fucking dare post that kind of comment to someone that's lost an animal very dear to them that same day. I literally don't think you can comprehend what I'm saying but that was all kinds of fucked up. They loved them, they took care of them for many years, and they couldn't bear to see this animal that they loved suffer. Respect that decision, don't bitch about it on reddit. That person is not a murderer, nor is/are the vet(s) that euthanized that animal.

I debated writing a longer paragraph about my (limited) experience working with animals where there was no hope, I've decided to go a little shorter here; when there is no hope, euthanasia makes sense to me. Watching a frail animal that doesn't understand why it can no longer fly or so in pain that it cannot behave how it normally would; its sickening to see. Releasing an animal back into the world is exactly what you want it to be; a happy image where you shield yourself from the reality of the situation with the Shield of Ignorance giving you the bliss you want. Watching an animal die slowly is incredibly, incredibly selfish and the comfort you gain from keeping an animal you care about alive is nowhere near worth the suffering they go through. You said it yourself; turkeys have feelings too. They feel pain too.

The animal released into the wilderness will not enjoy being in the wilderness. Most domesticated animals are imprinted on humans, a few animals can make it, its not an important distinction, so I'll grant you that somehow, someway, these pets would normally be alright in the wild and aren't imprinted on humans.

They're still in pain and they're still dying. Think about what happens to sick and dying animals in the wilderness, eh? Do they live happy lives and enjoy the rest of their days? They are lucky to die a quick death. The cat/dog/whatever dying of cancer will, in addition to being sickly, frail and in pain, will also spend the short amount of life they have remaining terrified of this new environment, and will be killed very quickly.

All of this is forgivable.

And then you compared slaughtering turkeys to the holocaust based solely on number of animals killed lmao.

I guess I'm happy I can shake my head and laugh at that.

[QueenAshy]

Originally Posted by Charu

Ayy...

I feel like that was me ages ago. I'm pretty nasty when I get angry, and I just don't like showing it.

I’m scared now…

Please do not show me…

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by Charu

Right, because I'm a sentient being.

Birds are not sentient. Heck, some of 'em don't have the mental capabilities to feel what you think some animals feel in the same context.

I thought you were a bird

I have several questions

[QueenAshy]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

jesus christ on a cross
EDIT: I could've done it. I really, really could've made it until you said you were complicit with eating meat, but also compared butchering turkeys to the Holocaust. I really, really could've handled it up until then.

You experience reality on a different plane than everyone else, or something, Ashy. The lifespan of dogs is not a problem that needs to be addressed. For whatever fucking reason on this planet, they live as long as they do. Humans do not have an obligation to increase their lifespan, and if we attempted to, it would fail. Dogs are meant to live as long as they do, its very clear. I cannot explain this concept further.

I can understand not liking euthanasia. I respect someone who makes an educated reason for not liking it. I even think I understand why you don't like it.

But

Don't you ever fucking dare impose those beliefs on someone else. Don't you ever fucking dare post that kind of comment to someone that's lost an animal very dear to them that same day. I literally don't think you can comprehend what I'm saying but that was all kinds of fucked up. They loved them, they took care of them for many years, and they couldn't bear to see this animal that they loved suffer. Respect that decision, don't bitch about it on reddit. That person is not a murderer, nor is/are the vet(s) that euthanized that animal.

I debated writing a longer paragraph about my (limited) experience working with animals where there was no hope, I've decided to go a little shorter here; when there is no hope, euthanasia makes sense to me. Watching a frail animal that doesn't understand why it can no longer fly or so in pain that it cannot behave how it normally would; its sickening to see. Releasing an animal back into the world is exactly what you want it to be; a happy image where you shield yourself from the reality of the situation with the Shield of Ignorance giving you the bliss you want. Watching an animal die slowly is incredibly, incredibly selfish and the comfort you gain from keeping an animal you care about alive is nowhere near worth the suffering they go through. You said it yourself; turkeys have feelings too. They feel pain too.

The animal released into the wilderness will not enjoy being in the wilderness. Most domesticated animals are imprinted on humans, a few animals can make it, its not an important distinction, so I'll grant you that somehow, someway, these pets would normally be alright in the wild and aren't imprinted on humans.

They're still in pain and they're still dying. Think about what happens to sick and dying animals in the wilderness, eh? Do they live happy lives and enjoy the rest of their days? They are lucky to die a quick death. The cat/dog/whatever dying of cancer will, in addition to being sickly, frail and in pain, will also spend the short amount of life they have remaining terrified of this new environment, and will be killed very quickly.

All of this is forgivable.

And then you compared slaughtering turkeys to the holocaust based solely on number of animals killed lmao.

I guess I'm happy I can shake my head and laugh at that.

All I’m gonna say is that the vet is the very definition of a murderer and so is the person. They can’t escape responsibility just cuz it’s an animal.

This is way too much to digest in one post

[Charu]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I thought you were a bird

I have several questions

*Chirp?*

BAWK!?!?!?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by QueenAshy

All I’m gonna say is that the vet is the very definition of a murderer and so is the person. They can’t escape responsibility just cuz it’s an animal.

This is way too much to digest in one post

*Shrug*

I guess when it happens to you, you'll understand then.

In the meantime though, make sure you make your dog happy and content.

[Gradiant]

Originally Posted by QueenAshy

All I’m gonna say is that the vet is the very definition of a murderer and so is the person. They can’t escape responsibility just cuz it’s an animal.

This is way too much to digest in one post

You're a murderer too then for eating meat because it means you endorse the killing of animals for food. Can I call you a sick fuck that should also be killed for eating meat then?

edit: not vegan btw, just pointing out the hypocrisy in your argument

[the sun fan]

If you get one thing from my wall Ashy, get this:

It's fine that you don't agree with putting down an animal. Dont ever say what you said to another person right after they lost a pet they cared about.

[QueenAshy]

Originally Posted by Charu

*Shrug*

I guess when it happens to you, you'll understand then.

In the meantime though, make sure you make your dog happy and content.

Don't worry, I love my dog very much and I plan to keep doing so!

I have a special bond with dogs, most of them seem to like me, and I can seem to relate to dogs on a deeper level.

[G.S.M]

Am I off my meds again? Oh wait... I don't take meds...

the fuck is goin' on