Old 02-10-2017, 03:24 PM   #541
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does freez have opinions that don't involve the word "slank"
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:32 PM   #542
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Okay, after a sudden side effect of morning coffee, I'm back in bidness. Gonna pick at the MML lynch and see where things go.

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Please explain what went on in your head between your MML vote
and the lynch? You leaned back and forth on him, said you were happy with your vote, then called for a CFD. That's a pretty solid escalation.

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I was worried from your actual MML vote post, but you actually explained your actions pretty well after that.

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I scrolled back a bit through your posts and didn't see a clear reason why you were fine voting for MML. If you could elaborate on your read, I'd appreciate the research shortcut.

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I'd kill mml if it means taking me out of a kitb
I get that there were cancer load times at eod, and I'm definitely guilty of getting ninja'd by tons of posts, but you were way out of kitb range when you insta'd. Did you have any sort of read on MML that made the vote easier for you?
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:35 PM   #543
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I was worried from your actual MML vote post, but you actually explained your actions pretty well after that.
Which post are you referring to when you say this?
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:58 PM   #544
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I scrolled back a bit through your posts and didn't see a clear reason why you were fine voting for MML. If you could elaborate on your read, I'd appreciate the research shortcut.
the main thing he had going for him being towny was that one post where he explained his comment about seeing a wolf between you and charu - "charu looked bad out the gate" without much prelude or additional detail is the kind of comment he makes as town because he gets to feel comfortable dumping on things. i brought that post to AA to see if he was considering it when he was saying mml seemed his usual abrasive self, but AA apparently wasn't talking about that post (and i thought it was fairly mild fare regardless)

we kind of reached that he didn't seem to be on his town game as much as we thought when he didn't have a good/expected response to AA's vote, even calling it a shitvote 1 minute to eod
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I hate how cedo's slot is just useless right now, there's nothing to get out of it
charu kill could potentially look good for him, as he showed strong conviction about something that is now demonstrably false, and charu's meta read on him feels trustable
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Old 02-10-2017, 04:06 PM   #546
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freez iso looks really disappointing to me, i didn't see him say anything about cedo besides slank and then he ended up with self pres onto mml who wasn't in his slank poe to my knowledge

i get self pres but it wasn't onto a wagon he might have been okay with earlier
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proph i would like you to sort out your pool of 4 from yesterday btw
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D2 stuff:

Clearly my initial read on charu was wrong. Definitely tunneled on that for too much of the day.

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meno/freez voting mml for self pres instead of each other?

also this seems like a case when a cfd has actually happened on FFR which in itself is peculiar and not something i remember from recent times
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unvote- proph, heart
That was the votecount I based my cedo vote on. We were on the next page before I realized that dfr had moved his vote.

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Oh shit, I wasn't putting a majority on cedo? MML

I'm into self-preservation.
The only person I can verify as town is myself, so lynching anyone else has a higher odds of hitting a wolf than just accepting my fate. You'll have to pick Freezin's brain if you want to figure out why he hopped on.

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I also did some thinking about the setup, and this is what I've concluded:

if we have a 1-shot BP, they should always out here. They pretty much will never die so it's very safe agree

if we have a doctor, they should never out unless they get a save that can confirm stuff for us. agree

if we have a cop, I think they should out if their check is living so we can narrow the pool to 5/7 Not sure about this one. I think it would be ideal to have the cop around as long as possible. With two successful checks, we win tomorrow even if both wolves are still alive. Perhaps we can all leave peeks instead of pushing the seer into the open?

if we have a tracker, only out if they have a good result I went back and forth, but I agree on this as well. If tracker has a positive result, the person is either a doctor (25%) or a wolf (75%).

if we have a JK, same thing I guess, although given the death I don't see how there could be useful info. JK I could go either way on. I'm having trouble thinking far enough ahead to figure out all of the implications. Definitely roleclaim before being lynched, though.
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I hate how cedo's slot is just useless right now, there's nothing to get out of it
Cedo didn't vote yesterday (insta happened 1 minute before eod yesterday, so that's not an excuse). If he's not even showing up to vote and he's town, that's dangerous.

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I dont think wolf aa would kill charu but i don't like aa aorn
Do you have any specifics why you don't like aa right now? I'm still generally townleaning aa.

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Like if he's a wolf this game, where would I even begin to look?
I should go read a wolf aa game just so I can get an idea of what wolf aa might look like.

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lylo/mylo
I swear, every damn page there's new terminology I haven't hit yet. Lucky for me, I found some dude's spreadsheet or I'd be lost af.
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I wanted to trust you on your MML read, Aragaki, and I was kind of unconfident strongly pushing Freezin when

1) I know nothing about Freezin
2) It was 1 AM at night and I was barely coherent
3) I literally just caught up with the game thread, and making a push when I just barely caught up seems foolish.
what do you actually think of freez to be able to say this?

speaking of which i think it's freez/cedo who haven't checked in
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Which post are you referring to when you say this?
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5 minutes

willing to vote cedo/freezin/..mml i /guess/

pretty sure my reads suck anyways, i'll improve them tomorrow
He had mml sitting on his list of people he was willing to vote earlier.

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I wanted to trust you on your MML read, Aragaki, and I was kind of unconfident strongly pushing Freezin when

1) I know nothing about Freezin
2) It was 1 AM at night and I was barely coherent
3) I literally just caught up with the game thread, and making a push when I just barely caught up seems foolish.
This post generally clears it up imo.

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the main thing he had going for him being towny was that one post where he explained his comment about seeing a wolf between you and charu - "charu looked bad out the gate" without much prelude or additional detail is the kind of comment he makes as town because he gets to feel comfortable dumping on things. i brought that post to AA to see if he was considering it when he was saying mml seemed his usual abrasive self, but AA apparently wasn't talking about that post (and i thought it was fairly mild fare regardless)

we kind of reached that he didn't seem to be on his town game as much as we thought when he didn't have a good/expected response to AA's vote, even calling it a shitvote 1 minute to eod
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying.
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Going to go throw some job applications in the garbage (at potential employers) and make some oatmeal. I'll be back in around an hour.
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That was the votecount I based my cedo vote on. We were on the next page before I realized that dfr had moved his vote.



The only person I can verify as town is myself, so lynching anyone else has a higher odds of hitting a wolf than just accepting my fate. You'll have to pick Freezin's brain if you want to figure out why he hopped on.
and then do you have a particular reason for it being mml you moved to?

why do you mention dfr by name? he'd moved to freez; had you meant to be voting with him?
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I got the part where he had declared intent to vote MML, but I disagree with your point saying that other post cleared it up.

Also to your statement about disagreeing with my read on AA, I stated them within my interactions with him this phase.
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Gonna try and work on a post highlighting my view on the gamestate + attempt to have fun on Friday night.

12/12 phases, man. Why you have to do this to me.
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12/12 phases, man. Why you have to do this to me.
That's the way turbos work here silly.

But you should play some of our regular games too
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Cedo didn't vote yesterday (insta happened 1 minute before eod yesterday, so that's not an excuse). If he's not even showing up to vote and he's town, that's dangerous.
well also

not showing up to vote, even when he sees two wolves playing forced distancing
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proph i play 12/12s only here because of the late phase ends
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also re: meno's setup commentary i agree the cop should stay silent right now if they exist

jailkeeper should also stay quiet for now
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Okay, after a sudden side effect of morning coffee, I'm back in bidness. Gonna pick at the MML lynch and see where things go.

AA-
Please explain what went on in your head between your MML vote
and the lynch? You leaned back and forth on him, said you were happy with your vote, then called for a CFD. That's a pretty solid escalation.

Proph-
I was worried from your actual MML vote post, but you actually explained your actions pretty well after that.

inD-
I scrolled back a bit through your posts and didn't see a clear reason why you were fine voting for MML. If you could elaborate on your read, I'd appreciate the research shortcut.

Freezin-

I get that there were cancer load times at eod, and I'm definitely guilty of getting ninja'd by tons of posts, but you were way out of kitb range when you insta'd. Did you have any sort of read on MML that made the vote easier for you?
was waiting to see MML's reaction, there was no reaction, then I felt more strongly about it and wanted him lynched after all
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