MAJOR Lag Issues

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 12:35 AM

Okay....this is going to be a bit of information, because I am not looking for answers like "use the standalone" anymore. The only info I can't give you (because I don't know) is how much ram and whatnot the computer has.

Lately, I have been playing the majority of my FFR on an offline engine. I do this for two reasons:
1. I can then play in my room, rather than in the kitchen.
2. It gives me NO lag whatsoever, unless it just happens to be a bad day with a random lag spike.

The computer in my room is an XP, the thing is old. It runs so nicely.
The computer in the kitchen is Vista. I hate it with a passion.

I can't have internet in my room, so a standalone on the XP is impossible. I need help finding a solution.

I have decided that my lag issues are not due to the game or server issues, but rather the computer itself. I don't know what the problem is, but here is a list of what I have tried:

Regular FFR in every web browser (IE, FF, Chrome, Safari)

Lite FFR in every web browser

Standalone swf in every web browser

Standalone with no browser in Flash 8 & 9

Velocity's Engine in every web browser

Velocity's Standalone in every web browser

Velocity's Standalone with no browser in both Flash 8 & 9

You can repeat that list with everything again, adding in running Game Booster as well. None of it is working for me....it all lags too much to play. I can't FC FMO's, and sure as heck can't AAA anything but Excite Bike.

Can anyone help me? I'm getting desperate....
Oh and p.s., even my offline engine lags on this computer a little.

And "move your computer or your internet" doesn't help me. I can't. It's my family computer and I can't have internet in my room, as I already stated. My parents are nazis. Help is greatly appreciated, guys. =]

**nuclearsamurai** · 01-20-2011, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin_ator

The computer in the kitchen is Vista.

Well, here's your problem.

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 12:40 AM

Yes, so a solution?
Other than "get a new computer"

EDIT:
None of this would be an issue if obtaining and updating specific scores from the offline engine wasn't such a big no-no. I mean, when I get something like this on the offline engine, and can't update it on here, it sucks. But there is no way I'll ever get that on this computer....

**nuclearsamurai** · 01-20-2011, 12:43 AM

Does "upgrade to W7" seem possible?

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 12:48 AM

Never really considered it...what exactly does that entail? If it involves a lot of changes to the computer and the files we have on it, it won't work...but I don't know much about that, so I'd need more info.

**ninjaKIWI** · 01-20-2011, 12:51 AM

You'd have to format to install W7, but you could just backup anything you need to save. It's no big deal.

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 12:59 AM

Any other suggestions? I'd really rather not have to go through backing everything up and everything else, seeing as I am only going to be on this computer and internet until I get a laptop for graduation in a few months.

Koolmaster242 · 01-20-2011, 07:17 AM

What comp is it?

Lelric · 01-20-2011, 07:35 AM

Justin, I seem to be having the same problems as you, however it's not because I have Vista, as it actually only came about recently, namely when they moved from the original FFR engine to the newer one.

Edit: When I try using the FFR Offline engine, it freezes for at least 2 full seconds after it loads a song, making me instantly fail. Velocity Engine runs a bit better than the regular FFR engine, but it's still keeping me from AAAing or even FCing almost anything.

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koolmaster242

What comp is it?

An HP Pavilion. Running Vista.

**Zageron** · 01-20-2011, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin_ator

An HP Pavilion. Running Vista.

Sounds old.

You need upgrade. If you're doing everything you say, (Really just running stand alone flash 9 and gamebooster) and it still lags, then I'm going to take a wild guess and say your computer is not good enough to handle FFR.

FFR is written in an old programming language that doesn't like rendering images as much as the new one does, therefore it's much slower.

Good luck.

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 10:39 AM

Well I can't do anything about the computer..

I wiped a bunch of things off of it and in the process lost my flash 9 standalone, could someone link me to it again?

**Zageron** · 01-20-2011, 11:00 AM

Other things you can try:
16BIT colour
Safe mode (/w Networking)

**Reincarnate** · 01-20-2011, 11:11 AM

Turn off Windows Aero.

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

Turn off Windows Aero.

Not sure I know what you are talking about, care to explain?

Semi-related, ThirdStyle hardly lags for me...?

**Reincarnate** · 01-20-2011, 11:12 AM

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/

**Zageron** · 01-20-2011, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justin_ator

Not sure I know what you are talking about, care to explain?

Semi-related, ThirdStyle hardly lags for me...?

As in my previous comment, TS is written in AS3. AS3 supports high speed rendering really well.

justin_ator · 01-20-2011, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zageron

As in my previous comment, TS is written in AS3. AS3 supports high speed rendering really well.

ohhhh, gotcha.

EDIT: Turning off Aero helped a little, I can play and FC things now. The lag is still bad though, no way I can PA anything... (Standalone with game booster)

**rushyrulz** · 01-20-2011, 12:33 PM

Option 1: New computer, yours is old

Option 2: Run vista for best performance instead of best graphics: click
On a flash 9 standalone, make sure you go into settings on the swf and uncheck hardware acceleration.

Option 3: Quit.

My experience with gamebooster leads me to believe that it's useless if you're running windows classic for 7 or best performance for vista.

**Reincarnate** · 01-20-2011, 12:37 PM

justin_ator: Try the standalone Flash 8 player

01-20-2011, 12:35 AM	#1
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	MAJOR Lag Issues Okay....this is going to be a bit of information, because I am not looking for answers like "use the standalone" anymore. The only info I can't give you (because I don't know) is how much ram and whatnot the computer has. Lately, I have been playing the majority of my FFR on an offline engine. I do this for two reasons: 1. I can then play in my room, rather than in the kitchen. 2. It gives me NO lag whatsoever, unless it just happens to be a bad day with a random lag spike. The computer in my room is an XP, the thing is old. It runs so nicely. The computer in the kitchen is Vista. I hate it with a passion. I can't have internet in my room, so a standalone on the XP is impossible. I need help finding a solution. I have decided that my lag issues are not due to the game or server issues, but rather the computer itself. I don't know what the problem is, but here is a list of what I have tried: Regular FFR in every web browser (IE, FF, Chrome, Safari) Lite FFR in every web browser Standalone swf in every web browser Standalone with no browser in Flash 8 & 9 Velocity's Engine in every web browser Velocity's Standalone in every web browser Velocity's Standalone with no browser in both Flash 8 & 9 You can repeat that list with everything again, adding in running Game Booster as well. None of it is working for me....it all lags too much to play. I can't FC FMO's, and sure as heck can't AAA anything but Excite Bike. Can anyone help me? I'm getting desperate.... Oh and p.s., even my offline engine lags on this computer a little. And "move your computer or your internet" doesn't help me. I can't. It's my family computer and I can't have internet in my room, as I already stated. My parents are nazis. Help is greatly appreciated, guys. =] __________________

01-20-2011, 12:40 AM	#3
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Yes, so a solution? Other than "get a new computer" EDIT: None of this would be an issue if obtaining and updating specific scores from the offline engine wasn't such a big no-no. I mean, when I get something like this on the offline engine, and can't update it on here, it sucks. But there is no way I'll ever get that on this computer.... __________________ Last edited by justin_ator; 01-20-2011 at 12:43 AM..

01-20-2011, 12:43 AM	#4
nuclearsamurai huehuehue Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ithaca, NY Age: 31 Posts: 1,211	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Does "upgrade to W7" seem possible? __________________

01-20-2011, 12:48 AM	#5
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Never really considered it...what exactly does that entail? If it involves a lot of changes to the computer and the files we have on it, it won't work...but I don't know much about that, so I'd need more info. __________________

01-20-2011, 12:51 AM	#6
ninjaKIWI plain old ugly ass dumbas Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 31 Posts: 3,303	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues You'd have to format to install W7, but you could just backup anything you need to save. It's no big deal.

01-20-2011, 12:59 AM	#7
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Any other suggestions? I'd really rather not have to go through backing everything up and everything else, seeing as I am only going to be on this computer and internet until I get a laptop for graduation in a few months. __________________

01-20-2011, 07:17 AM	#8
Koolmaster242 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Your Mom's Closet :P Posts: 63	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues What comp is it?

01-20-2011, 07:35 AM	#9
Lelric FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ohio, USA ;D Posts: 8	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Justin, I seem to be having the same problems as you, however it's not because I have Vista, as it actually only came about recently, namely when they moved from the original FFR engine to the newer one. Edit: When I try using the FFR Offline engine, it freezes for at least 2 full seconds after it loads a song, making me instantly fail. Velocity Engine runs a bit better than the regular FFR engine, but it's still keeping me from AAAing or even FCing almost anything. Last edited by Lelric; 01-20-2011 at 07:38 AM..

01-20-2011, 10:39 AM	#12
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Well I can't do anything about the computer.. I wiped a bunch of things off of it and in the process lost my flash 9 standalone, could someone link me to it again? __________________

01-20-2011, 11:00 AM	#13
Zageron Zageron E. Tazaterra RRR Developer & DevOps Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: BC Age: 32 Posts: 6,586	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Other things you can try: 16BIT colour Safe mode (/w Networking) __________________ Help Develop FFR

01-20-2011, 11:11 AM	#14
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Turn off Windows Aero.

01-20-2011, 11:12 AM	#16
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/

01-20-2011, 12:33 PM	#19
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues Option 1: New computer, yours is old Option 2: Run vista for best performance instead of best graphics: click On a flash 9 standalone, make sure you go into settings on the swf and uncheck hardware acceleration. Option 3: Quit. My experience with gamebooster leads me to believe that it's useless if you're running windows classic for 7 or best performance for vista. __________________ Last edited by rushyrulz; 01-20-2011 at 12:35 PM..

01-20-2011, 12:37 PM	#20
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: MAJOR Lag Issues justin_ator: Try the standalone Flash 8 player

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