Turbo XII: Very Interesting Game - Game Thread

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Oh rip his quote was actually from Egregious Miscalculations
Thanks, tapatalk.
My point stands though, how the hell can you say you cbf to look through this short game for my awfully scummy posts that are identical to sunfans, and then dig through past games to find a specific post in Egregious Miscalculations, all to defend "your motivations"? And now you're not even bothering to respond. I'm not gonna drop it or get distracted, dude.

Can we please lynch this guy? Please?

Shado, remind yourself of the previous game. You and FreezinIce are evaluating things very differently. It's a false positive imo. At least, at this point.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I think you got it in reverse. I'm already in the same situation as last game. I have my wolf world and I'm evaluating town right now by doing these lol plays.

Yeah, I mean "what caused you to abandon all the drive to change your game, and led you to approach solving this game with the same -guess every wolf world- mentality as last game"?

[Lightknight924]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

why do you consider my little old vote to be so powerful hmm? ~

you seem eager to toss your vote around, almost as though you are seeing which wagon may stick

Why do you call your vote as "little ol' vote?" Trying to downplay your allegations as though they weren't serious?

I said it's a powerful move because you called me out of everything because I had no votes on me yet, but you said it's just a "little old vote," based off of me being "loosey goosey."

It's that vote right there which made me read back at your earliest posts, and it made me feel like you've been playing this thread so far from a position of solitude and confidence. Like you have inner knowledge about your own role, and are mounting up to the stage. Chiming in on everyone, but staying cool and calm. I've seen this raeko in past games, like ltwg for example, and it lead me to call her out for playing in a style where "she says just enough, but not too much, like she's dancing around a something or defending an inner power."

So who are you working with? mellon

[AragakiAyase]

Votes from post 5 to post 283
Night in 5:21:44
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- Hakulyte -- evanescence_death4ever (23), FreezinIce (35)
• 1 -- botchi246 -- inDheart (40)
• 1 -- Lightknight924 -- mellonxcollie (13)
• 1 -- mellonxcollie -- Lightknight924 (15)
• 1 -- FreezinIce -- ShadoWolfe (53)
• 1 -- inDheart -- Charu (53)
• 3 -- not voting -- botchi246 (0), Celirra (12), Hakulyte (35)

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Yeah, I mean "what caused you to abandon all the drive to change your game, and led you to approach solving this game with the same -guess every wolf world- mentality as last game"?

I want you to understand that this game can be won on D0 if we lynch a wolf.

I'm not guessing every wolves here. I only guessed Eva at first and I've been wondering why we spent nearly 4 hours watching a bunch of haikus instead of doing anything else.

Did anyone ask Eva why she sings these sounds?
Did anyone notice the break after my post?
Did anyone notice Eva talking about not feeling too well about it?

I mean, if there's a role that is very stressful in this game, it's definitely wolf.

I'm assuming that right now everyone is trying to solve T/Ts really quick with RVS and that's fine, but really, this should have been the main event of the day.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Shado, remind yourself of the previous game. You and FreezinIce are evaluating things very differently. It's a false positive imo. At least, at this point.

No. Last game I had him as solid town. He seemed opportunistic at first, then his tone and consistent good points made me change that.

This game, he's:
made up shit about me, or at least exaggerated the truth immensely (scummy, can come from town)

shaded me and said he'd explain "after policy lynching Haku" (scummy)

opportunistically tried to "policy lynch" Haku for hardclaiming (scummy, can come from town but I think Freezin would be one of the more open-minded people towards Haku's "chaos")

And said he wasn't able to find the posts that made him scumread me in this game until he got to a computer, only to then find a post buried in EgrMis, which took place 4 months ago.

He's gonna need one hell of a defense for me to change my mind about him. Bear in mind that I was one of the earliest few to townread him last game and say him/sunfan was TvT
This time he really isn't.

[Celirra]

Limericks are done since it's hard to write poems on mobile.

I'm actually leaning a bit towards ShadoWolfe, just because of how quick he was to rescind his aggression towards Eva after he realized it was making people not like him. I'd assume that being unliked as a town isn't too horrible, but chances are a dastardly wolf would be trying their very darnedest to not be disliked.

Actually for the record too, I still consider Eva's initial posts and such before and during the drama a bit suspect leaning towards wolf, though that has pretty much dissipated by now.

Haku is just shitdisturbing I think, and I also know that Haku's smart enough to social engineer well enough, so above all else I'm a bit threatened and leaning wolf as a just-in-case measure.

FreezIn is hard to get a proper read on, so I'm gonna wait and see. Same with Charu though I'm leaning town for him.

I'll probably vote Botchi if there's no Botchipost by 9:37 server time, just because I don't much like absence for such a long time.

The rest are insignificant for now, in that I haven't given the others much thought. Will consider the other cuties over a beer.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

Votes from post 5 to post 283
Night in 5:21:44
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- Hakulyte -- evanescence_death4ever (23), FreezinIce (35)
• 1 -- botchi246 -- inDheart (40)
• 1 -- Lightknight924 -- mellonxcollie (13)
• 1 -- mellonxcollie -- Lightknight924 (15)
• 1 -- FreezinIce -- ShadoWolfe (53)
• 1 -- inDheart -- Charu (53)
• 3 -- not voting -- botchi246 (0), Celirra (12), Hakulyte (35)

D0 votes checks out

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Celirra

Actually for the record too, I still consider Eva's initial posts and such before and during the drama a bit suspect leaning towards wolf, though that has pretty much dissipated by now.

I'm very curious to know why you think so.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

Why do you call your vote as "little ol' vote?" Trying to downplay your allegations as though they weren't serious?

I said it's a powerful move because you called me out of everything because I had no votes on me yet, but you said it's just a "little old vote," based off of me being "loosey goosey."

It's that vote right there which made me read back at your earliest posts, and it made me feel like you've been playing this thread so far from a position of solitude and confidence. Like you have inner knowledge about your own role, and are mounting up to the stage. Chiming in on everyone, but staying cool and calm. I've seen this raeko in past games, like ltwg for example, and it lead me to call her out for playing in a style where "she says just enough, but not too much, like she's dancing around a something or defending an inner power."

So who are you working with? mellon

OMG U SUCK

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

It's that vote right there which made me read back at your earliest posts, and it made me feel like you've been playing this thread so far from a position of solitude and confidence.

So who are you working with? mellon

these two things seem to contradict each other

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I want you to understand that this game can be won on D0 if we lynch a wolf.

...

Just so I'm not actually get a false sense of alarms, what do you ever mean with this statement, Mr. Haku-san?

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm very curious to know why you think so.

I think it's mostly due to there being less evidence now to back it up, though there are still some signs. As well, quite frankly I don't think Eva has it in her to act as a town well if she's under pressure of wolf accusation.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Celirra

I think it's mostly due to there being less evidence now to back it up, though there are still some signs. As well, quite frankly I don't think Eva has it in her to act as a town well if she's under pressure of wolf accusation.

Okay let me clear up something important for this game.

There's only one type of evidence in this game and it's actions by Power Roles.

e.g: Let's say two players died tonight, one was killed by the wolves and the other player have to be 100% shot by the vigilante in this setup. This is the only thing you can seriously take as pure evidence.

You have to gauge players for rest and come up with your own conclusions by asking yourself multiple questions.

This is really a game of assumptions. There's not a single argument in this game that will end with one player confessing to the others that they were wrong.

There's only 3 scenarios most of the time with arguments.

- The player did a mistake. (misreading by example)
- The player was lying. (contradiction)
- The player has hit a wall and can't explain it. (you're wrong! (we can't verify that a player is wrong most of the time until they flip))

You can only gain a margin of confidence with experience/actions/meta/intentions.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm just saying that because I tend to associate reasons behind actions. I understand that it's the beginning of D0, but I already have trouble to explain your intentions here.

I don't know if you already played wolf before, but the mindset is pretty different and can make you feel guilty because you do have to lie and deceive others while playing.

You have information that the other players do not have and that gives you a burden.

I believe that this burden can be felt here.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Celirra

I'm actually leaning a bit towards ShadoWolfe, just because of how quick he was to rescind his aggression towards Eva after he realized it was making people not like him. I'd assume that being unliked as a town isn't too horrible, but chances are a dastardly wolf would be trying their very darnedest to not be disliked.

Actually for the record too, I still consider Eva's initial posts and such before and during the drama a bit suspect leaning towards wolf, though that has pretty much dissipated by now.

Aggression? There was never aggression to rescind. I asked her to stop posting in a way that made it easy to hide her alignment. Her response indicated she was inadvertently hurt by me, so I apologized because that wasn't my intention at all. It's really kind of rude to insinuate I apologized because "people didn't like me". I didn't think anyone said anything to "not like me" in terms of alignment. It seemed as though everyone was more trying to be supportive of Eva.

I can't say I see where you're coming from regarding Eva, either. I'm probably never lynching her this phase. Emotions are hard to fake genuinely, and she legit seemed like she was crying.

[ShadoWolfe]

Walking to a bus rn, should be back in a bit

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I can't say I see where you're coming from regarding Eva, either. I'm probably never lynching her this phase. Emotions are hard to fake genuinely, and she legit seemed like she was crying.

How do you associate emotions with her alignment?

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I can't say I see where you're coming from regarding Eva, either. I'm probably never lynching her this phase. Emotions are hard to fake genuinely, and she legit seemed like she was crying.

I'm not saying she was fake crying, what I'm saying is that there's a good chance that whIle she was emotional she would've caved if she were a wolf.

[Lightknight924]

WE CAN'T FORGET ABOUT THE BOTCHALOTCH THAT LURKS BENEATH THE FFRTWGOPOLIS

[evanescence_death4ever]

Fuck. I eat sushi and this is what I get?

I have catching up to do.

*gotta read the whole thread*