Ingame Song Information - Page 15

**Doug31** · 12-4-2006, 12:26 AM

I agree, maybe around the abtrusity to ASB range.

**jimerax** · 12-4-2006, 05:16 AM

right, I think it's a bit harder though.
put it mid 4.5.

**Tasselfoot** · 12-4-2006, 09:54 AM

definitely harder than ASB. PA wise it is similar... harder to combo. ASB only has 1 tiny section that is difficult to combo, this has a bunch of crazy bursts.

**igotrhythm** · 12-5-2006, 05:00 PM

I'm thinking a 5 because of the weird bursts and the fact that there are 16th runs (I don't think they're fast enough to be called trills) interspersed in a jumpstream, a pattern I regularly screw up. Hence why I can't FC CIA.

**customstuff** · 12-6-2006, 02:34 PM

I say Raindrops should be moved from 1.5/6 to 2.5/6, I know it's easy for a while but it has alot of doubles and has that one part close to the end. At least I can FC it though...

Edit: LOL, look what I said back then...

**Shashakiro** · 12-6-2006, 05:14 PM

Uhh no, RainDrops is definitely a 1.5...it's not hard at all, certainly nothing compared to OLB or Boss Machine.

**Brilliant Dynamite Neon** · 12-7-2006, 12:12 PM

Notice how all the hardest songs are unAAAable

**Nyokou** · 12-7-2006, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brilliant Dynamite Neon

Notice how all the hardest songs are unAAAable

Which ones are you talking about?

**Shashakiro** · 12-7-2006, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brilliant Dynamite Neon

Notice how all the hardest songs are unAAAable

noo you think

**Doug31** · 12-7-2006, 12:20 PM

Revo is one of the hardest songs, and it's AAAable. What Jimerax's post means is which songs have jacks so fast that they are impossible to AAA.

**dore** · 12-7-2006, 04:22 PM

I think Torinouta is a 5.

**Doug31** · 12-7-2006, 09:20 PM

I think the max combo of 314 should be added for chrono trigger, where it says the other stuff, like 8 goods, 8 misses.

**windsurfer-sp** · 12-9-2006, 08:08 AM

I know everyone hates a I can FC X but not Y so therfore X is easier post so ill try to explain it in other terms.

Etude To A Dragon is without a doubt easier then CIA Rave. In my opinon there is only one hard section in the song where there are a couple of semi-awkard jumps in a stream. CIA rave has no easy sections and there are multiple challenging bits. CIA Rave is always dense Etude is mostly dense.

Im using CIA Rave as an example personally I think Etude should be somewhere between 54 and 57. Up to you but I was really surprised to see Etude>CIA.

**Shashakiro** · 12-9-2006, 10:17 AM

CIA Rave is put lower because it's INSANELY index friendly. Etude is not. That's basically why...plus the jumpstream part of Etude is relatively hard compared to anything in CIA.

**igotrhythm** · 12-9-2006, 10:26 AM

Would it be okay if I invented a new term to describe a pattern in Etude?

Jumping jacks: Like single arrow jacks, only with jumps.

**Shashakiro** · 12-9-2006, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

Would it be okay if I invented a new term to describe a pattern in Etude?

Jumping jacks: Like single arrow jacks, only with jumps.

Uh...in Revo? Those are generally called jumpjacks already >_>

**Dronak** · 12-9-2006, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

CIA Rave is put lower because it's INSANELY index friendly. Etude is not. That's basically why.

So how much is playing style (one hand, two hand, index, etc.) factored in to these difficulty ratings? Your statement seems to indicate that it is considered. But how? I can think of a few possible ways, so I'm wondering what's actually done. Thanks.

**Shashakiro** · 12-9-2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dronak

So how much is playing style (one hand, two hand, index, etc.) factored in to these difficulty ratings? Your statement seems to indicate that it is considered. But how? I can think of a few possible ways, so I'm wondering what's actually done. Thanks.

Not saying it's considered per se (otherwise Pants and EHHS would be far higher, and Strangeprogram/AIM Anthem a bit lower), but it's just that indexable stream is easier than non-indexable stream, for all styles.

**Dronak** · 12-9-2006, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

it's just that indexable stream is easier than non-indexable stream, for all styles.

I suppose that makes sense. If the stream can be hit well with just two fingers, it shouldn't be *that* bad with three or four fingers. I imagine it's too much work to do, but it might be interesting to see the songs ranked differently based on different (common) playing styles.

Thanks again to everyone making this list. While I'm not a great player, the basic order looks generally right to me, and it's good to have this information. The detailed placements of individual songs I leave to the experts to determine.

boudoun2me · 12-9-2006, 11:28 PM

nova pulser is fine where it is

12-4-2006, 12:26 AM	#281
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I agree, maybe around the abtrusity to ASB range. __________________

12-4-2006, 05:16 AM	#282
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 right, I think it's a bit harder though. put it mid 4.5. Last edited by jimerax; 12-4-2006 at 07:06 AM..

12-4-2006, 09:54 AM	#283
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 definitely harder than ASB. PA wise it is similar... harder to combo. ASB only has 1 tiny section that is difficult to combo, this has a bunch of crazy bursts. __________________ RIP

12-5-2006, 05:00 PM	#284
igotrhythm Fractals! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Meesheegan Age: 38 Posts: 6,534	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I'm thinking a 5 because of the weird bursts and the fact that there are 16th runs (I don't think they're fast enough to be called trills) interspersed in a jumpstream, a pattern I regularly screw up. Hence why I can't FC CIA.

12-7-2006, 12:12 PM	#287
Brilliant Dynamite Neon nobody fiffers anymore. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 6-arrow land Age: 31 Posts: 2,440	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Notice how all the hardest songs are unAAAable

12-7-2006, 12:20 PM	#290
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Revo is one of the hardest songs, and it's AAAable. What Jimerax's post means is which songs have jacks so fast that they are impossible to AAA. __________________

12-7-2006, 04:22 PM	#291
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I think Torinouta is a 5. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

12-7-2006, 09:20 PM	#292
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I think the max combo of 314 should be added for chrono trigger, where it says the other stuff, like 8 goods, 8 misses. __________________

12-9-2006, 08:08 AM	#293
windsurfer-sp FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Aussie (Oi Oi Oi) Age: 33 Posts: 1,974	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I know everyone hates a I can FC X but not Y so therfore X is easier post so ill try to explain it in other terms. Etude To A Dragon is without a doubt easier then CIA Rave. In my opinon there is only one hard section in the song where there are a couple of semi-awkard jumps in a stream. CIA rave has no easy sections and there are multiple challenging bits. CIA Rave is always dense Etude is mostly dense. Im using CIA Rave as an example personally I think Etude should be somewhere between 54 and 57. Up to you but I was really surprised to see Etude>CIA. __________________ Orbb fan club. White text society.

12-9-2006, 10:26 AM	#295
igotrhythm Fractals! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Meesheegan Age: 38 Posts: 6,534	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Would it be okay if I invented a new term to describe a pattern in Etude? Jumping jacks: Like single arrow jacks, only with jumps.

12-9-2006, 11:28 PM	#300
boudoun2me FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: LOOK!! FLYING BROCCOLI Age: 29 Posts: 20	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 nova pulser is fine where it is __________________ ____________0 ___________000 __________0_0_0 _________0__0__0 ________0___0___0 ____________0 ____________0 ____________0 ____________0 i proably dont know what i posted. whatever it is, it probably sucks.

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