TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

also sunfan are we off of shadow here because without your reading input I have to lynch shadow here: this is exactly a play I've made as a wolf.

I'm going to be hard defending him when I make my reads list later today tbh

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

If you don't share concerns, it's not going to end well in this game.
Players -need- to read you in order to solve you.
You also -need- to read others and try to get a feel of where they're at.
You have to fight the game, not the players.

Unfortunately, from my perspective, I feel like you're struggling with something called "wolf pressure" from knowing your alignment.

If that's not what the fear is coming from, I'll be happy to eat my words in postgame and be like "oh okay, Shadow is not like what I thought".

I just feel like you have similar "paranoia" vibes as me, but I don't understand why you don't make solving attempts with words that shows the emotional feel of that fear.

In the post where you self voted, I couldn't really feel emotion while reading it. It felt it was more like an objective strategy than you really believing this.

That's one of the reasons while I cannot reconcile your post into being towny.

What do you mean by wolf pressure? I don't really understand there. There is so much about this game that I don't understand and it's very frustrating because I want to be on the same level as all of you but I'm just not at that level. This is probably my inexperience leaking out which annoys me even more.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

For me personally it's fear. I REALLY loathe myself for this but I'm terrified of my thoughts being rejected and the position that I'm in is the result of me being too afraid to speak up and voice my opinion on things. I don't know if anyone else has had this happen; but for me, as town it REALLY fucking sucks.

Well, when you're wolfing, you have to adjust to alter the reality so town doesn't win. That can be stressful to manage on a long game.

I don't understand how "your fear" works tbh as town because simply sharing concerns would count as a contribution and I don't see what's so scary about it.

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I'm going to be hard defending him when I make my reads list later today tbh

I'd like to hear it. I can clear him just as easily as I cleared fg, but with fg I know what the tells are; what to look for. I don't know Shadow.

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Well, when you're wolfing, you have to adjust to alter the reality so town doesn't win. That can be stressful to manage on a long game.

I don't understand how "your fear" works tbh as town because simply sharing concerns would count as a contribution and I don't see what's so scary about it.

The fear for me is if I'm wrong I get blamed for it, and then everyone else suffers because I made a stupid decision. Idk I'm a very selfless person and I tend to think of the needs of others before my own. That was the primary reason for my self vote

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

The fear for me is if I'm wrong I get blamed for it, and then everyone else suffers because I made a stupid decision. Idk I'm a very selfless person and I tend to think of the needs of others before my own. That was the primary reason for my self vote

If you do your best and get mislynched, you bore the responsibility to the best of your ability; the rest lies with town.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

The fear for me is if I'm wrong I get blamed for it, and then everyone else suffers because I made a stupid decision. Idk I'm a very selfless person and I tend to think of the needs of others before my own. That was the primary reason for my self vote

Are you expecting to chain vote 5 wolves in a row perfectly ?
Do you realize that if town doesn't vote the wolves with you it's useless ?
Do you understand that you need town to town read you so they can trust you more ?
Do you understand that if you don't give town some sort of feedback, they will struggle with evaluating you ?

What is there to fear ? You just have to set realistic goals and work on them.

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

If you do your best and get mislynched, you bore the responsibility to the best of your ability; the rest lies with town.

Honestly, what I've been giving is my best and I don't know what else to do. Of course I'm sad that I' might be mislynched, but if it's something that benefits a town win then I'm very happy. I might not be around for EOD btw. I'm going to sleep soon

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Are you expecting to chain vote 5 wolves in a row perfectly ?
Do you realize that if town doesn't vote the wolves with you it's useless ?
Do you understand that you need town to town read you so they can trust you more ?
Do you understand that if you don't give town some sort of feedback, they will struggle with evaluating you ?

What is there to fear ? You just have to set realistic goals and work on them.

You might be right. I think I've been playing all wrong, I know it seems like I've been coasting but it's because I've been scared to raise an opinion on things. I'm not bullshitting anyone right now, I've been legit scared to speak my mind because being wrong is something that terrifies me. But from what I can see and what everyone is saying to me: you can be wrong a couple times as long as you're being read the right way by everyone else.

[Shadow_God_10]

This is another hard lesson that I've learned this game. I'm so happy that I can learn as i play.

[Soundwave-]

I don't even know if I need to hear a defense honestly.

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Soundwave-

I don't even know if I need to hear a defense honestly.

vote someone else then tbh

[Shadow_God_10]

I'm going to sleep. Goodnight.

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

vote someone else then tbh

no u

[the sun fan]

I think
that I murder ffa today

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

I think
that I murder ffa today

reasonable. about that lynch order though?

[flashflash account]

Should I bother reading the past five pages

I see sunfan wants a wolf to live and wants me dead

[Daikyi]

people hung up on lynch all liars with sunfan dont sit right with me rn

something something afrobean

since in reality, i lied about receiving the lynching people to level up thing initially tbh

looking at motives though, i dont get why sunfan thought he needed to red check to push hard on me, im pretty sure he could have lynched my ass without it given the general game perception on me lmao

wv is pretty clear town, and assuming he has some good shit with sunfans item, probably will have results to show out of it. sunfan still has some powers and should probably become a huge threat to wolves if he does level up fully if hes town sided.

regardless, one flippong town i think would probably confirm the other, given that sunfans info seems to point to wv town, and wvs role peek info says sunfan is town aligned.

so i wouldnt actually lynch either and am fine operating under the assumption, that somehow through all this bullshit in the phase, weve confirmed 3 towns lmao. sounds like the item and sunfans role is pretty nice, and i dont think wolves leave them alive regardless for long.

thots are still a bit jumbled tbh

[Not devonin]

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

The fear for me is if I'm wrong I get blamed for it, and then everyone else suffers because I made a stupid decision. Idk I'm a very selfless person and I tend to think of the needs of others before my own. That was the primary reason for my self vote

The second game I ever played I was a Guardian, not just town, an important blue role. Afrobean was I think, vanilla town. At some point in the game he decided I was being wolfy and started really pushing at me hard. I knew I was town, said so, tried to explain how he was just way off base, but he just kept pushing. So I concluded the only reasonable explanation was that he was a wolf trying to direct focus on me. So I started pushing him hard. We both got completely convinced that the only reason the other one was being so aggressive about us being a wolf is that they were the wolf, so we didn't stop.

In the postgame, he described me as the worst player he had ever seen.

It seems to me that part of this game, and the part that ends up separating the actual good players from the jackasses that swan around like they are the best players ever is the understanding that sometimes you're gonna fuck up, some times you're going to get it completely wrong, sometimes you're going to get tricked. I think that's just part of the game. I don't think anybody is "so good" at TWG that they win even 80% of their games let alone 100% and you have to just make peace with that.

That said, Shadow_god_10 I'd like you to respond to the fact that sunfan's pretty clearly established there's almost certainly 4 wolves left and your reads list only has wolf reads on 2 people.

17 players left and you've got
11 town
1 wolf
1 wolf/3p
1 3p
2 null
1 you

[Soundwave-]

Originally Posted by Daikyi

thots are still a bit jumbled tbh

damn thots always be jumbled