TWG CLXXVIII: Danganronpa [Game Thread]

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

The above is a long summation of everything I found objectionable about Mondo while running through his game with a fine-toothed comb, and a few things here and there are minor or exaggerated dings. There are certainly sections (which is to be expected in a hundred posts) that feel towny to me--mostly a sense of restless probing. But the thing is, beyond the three themes hit above, there feels like an awful lot of accusations and work and directions with surprisingly little actual detective work. There doesn't seem to be any real effort to dig in and figure out who's a wolf. Even his most recent post

Originally Posted by Mondo Owada

Well I don't really have any better ideas. The only person I'm sure isn't maf is chihiro and he could very well be the acqui.

basically just throws his suspicions to the winds. I feel kind of bad harping on this one, because I actually understand the feeling. Parsing Mondo so closely makes you see a lot, the good and the bad, and I kind of hate the meta of rigid certainty that this game seems to demand. But in this case, it speaks again to that reluctance to push. Maybe it's just that activity has dropped way off, but it's amazing how much more of a central theme there was to his first day, with the ID stuff and especially the hammered case against Aoi. If he could manage so many Aoi posts based on a single sentence, where's that attention now, with so much more information available?

Even the Chihiro thing feels like a copout. Chihiro would be a very poor choice for acquisition—they're the only town power role remaining and the doctor is gone (meaning a likely nightkill target going forward, presumably dangerous to the Acqui), and we've already sort of established that Danganronpa can at least be used as a logic check against them (in the sense that a correct answer doesn't clear them, but a wrong/slow answer condemns them). Both of these factors would make Chihiro a poor Acqui target.

It's possible, ultimately, that Mondo is a town player who doesn't know how or where to direct his energies in a game where so many players have been inactive, and where no one really seems to be jumping out as an obvious wolf. But his behavior has major problems that on balance point away from town, and make much more sense as a wolf.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

The day ends again tonight and the thread has been quiet for hours. I see Byakuya and Sakura lurking so...yeah.

[Sakura Ogami]

I don't much like two things about this kyoko posting:

1) it's against a single person almost entirely despite there being 2 wolves in the game + aqui

2) it feels mostly in response to the pressure; that is to say, I doubt this effort would have come without being pressured into it...

The reason I don't like point 1 is that technically this is very close to mylo potentially (if aqui is a town right now, then they go into a town, and the wolves get their 2 kills, we're down to 5 with only 2 town which might be parity actually...? Idk how it works)

Basically it's at the point where wolves only really need to push for one mislynch potentially to win which is... yikes

Its not guaranteed of course and there's a lot that is out of our control etc but the notion is still there... also hello

[Sakura Ogami]

Also I did look back and i don't think the yasuhiro periods thing held any merit tbh

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Originally Posted by Sakura Ogami

Also I did look back and i don't think the yasuhiro periods thing held any merit tbh

I mean, I don't entirely disagree that the punctuation thing is weak, but if Yasu wasn't the Acqui, what exactly happened last night? I suppose the Acqui could like their current account, but staying in one place slows down the rate at which the game population goes down.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Originally Posted by Sakura Ogami

The reason I don't like point 1 is that technically this is very close to mylo potentially (if aqui is a town right now, then they go into a town, and the wolves get their 2 kills, we're down to 5 with only 2 town which might be parity actually...? Idk how it works)

Basically it's at the point where wolves only really need to push for one mislynch potentially to win which is... yikes

Which is one reason why I name dropped you and Byakuya when I saw you below. (And I see Leon now as well.) Discussion, any discussion, is a good thing right now.

[Byakuya Togami]

Originally Posted by Kyoko Kirigiri

The day ends again tonight and the thread has been quiet for hours. I see Byakuya and Sakura lurking so...yeah.

I wasn't able to post in the thread until now.

Mondo's fascination with the ID wolf is odd, but I don't know how it incriminates him.

[Leon Kuwata]

that's a lot of text holy shit

[Sakura Ogami]

Originally Posted by Kyoko Kirigiri

I mean, I don't entirely disagree that the punctuation thing is weak, but if Yasu wasn't the Acqui, what exactly happened last night? I suppose the Acqui could like their current account, but staying in one place slows down the rate at which the game population goes down.

Frankly I don't know if its worth really thinking about cause there's a lot we don't know(?) and regardless of what happened, it's happened...

There's a chance aqui tried to go into yasuhiro (lol)
There's a chance yasuhiro doctor'd the wolf kill (also lol)

Regardless I don't think it's worth wasting a ton of energy on at this point?

[Sakura Ogami]

Originally Posted by Leon Kuwata

that's a lot of text holy shit

Bad post

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Originally Posted by Byakuya Togami

I wasn't able to post in the thread until now.

Mondo's fascination with the ID wolf is odd, but I don't know how it incriminates him.

Early in the game, Mondo made a joke about playing the game in real time using Shakespeare quotes. The relevant quote here is, "The lady doth protest too much." I think Mondo is the identity wolf, and their overemphasis on that role throughout the game stems from that. Normally when scumhunting, I wouldn't bother trying to guess which wolf I think somebody is, because alignment-indicative behavior doesn't necessarily speak to a role. But in this case I can't get over the exaggerated effect--they're thinking about it too much, and it bleeds into their posts.

[Leon Kuwata]

Originally Posted by Byakuya Togami

I wasn't able to post in the thread until now.

Mondo's fascination with the ID wolf is odd, but I don't know how it incriminates him.

it reads as exaggeratedly worrying about a threat that never affects him

[Leon Kuwata]

Originally Posted by Sakura Ogami

Bad post

eat me

[Leon Kuwata]

Byakuya do you have any thoughts of your own dude?

[Byakuya Togami]

Sakura's post shook me because I didn't internalize how close we were to MYLO/endgame.

With being this close to MYLO/endgame, I don't think we have the luxury of avoiding inactive players. There's two inactives (Makoto + Mukuro) and 2 wolves left. There is a chance that they are the wolves. I'm posting this because I completely forgot Mukuro existed until Chihiro mentioned them.

Something I'm also guilty of is narrowing down my vote choices as if I have the time to be wrong, so I'm going to temporarily... not. Here is the list of alive players who aren't Chihiro:

2) Byakuya Togami
8) Kyoko Kirigiri
9) Leon Kuwata
10) Makoto Naegi
11) Mondo Owada
12) Mukuro Ikusaba
13) Sakura Ogami

It might help to expand our scope and provide reads for everyone. At least, that is what I'll start to do now.

^^^ I tried posting this once already, argh. At least I copied it.

[Byakuya Togami]

Originally Posted by Leon Kuwata

Byakuya do you have any thoughts of your own dude?

I will

[Sakura Ogami]

Originally Posted by Leon Kuwata

it reads as exaggeratedly worrying about a threat that never affects him

Can you explain how it never affects him?

[Sakura Ogami]

Yo we have 57 mins

Can we get some shit vocalized pls


I kinda wanna vote kyoko

[Makoto Naegi]

I don't think kyoko is a wolf.

[Byakuya Togami]

So I had to eat right after I made that last post...

I'm going to look at people who aren't Mondo and Kyoko for half an hour and then be back.