Ingame Song Information - Page 24

**Doug31** · 02-19-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dronak

Well, as vengefullangel noted already, the initial post does say, "This list is based on the difficulty for passing (without mashing), full combo, good pefect attack...

Not only that, but also, in Chardish's quote, it says that the Master songs are hard to clear, so noobs will mash and pass songs like fotbb, hellbeat, and silence, and conclude that they shouldn't be in master. Right now, I don't consider any songs to have a hard enough pass difficulty for it to be any significant factor in what difficulty rating they get.

**Shashakiro** · 02-20-2007, 11:07 AM

just thought it over, min goods on Chrono for AAA is 9...you can't get both a perf and 314 combo from that one part.

**jimerax** · 02-21-2007, 05:41 AM

True, you have to hit the arrows after the first glitched arrow earlier before the Miss-judgement of the glitched arrow to get 314 (or 313, maybe).

**Shashakiro** · 02-21-2007, 10:10 AM

Hmm, I'm not sure, actually...if it's a 3-frame jack, min goods is 9, if it's a 4-framer, it's still 8.

Someone check? It's the jack caused by the roll with the two glitched arrows that first breaks your combo near the end.

**igotrhythm** · 02-21-2007, 02:20 PM

What song was Tass talking about when he said he needed input from less skilled players? I'd be happy to help you guys investigate this.

**Shashakiro** · 02-21-2007, 02:37 PM

Switchback.

I personally think 1.5 is definitely right for it.

**hi19hi19** · 02-21-2007, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug31

Not only that, but also, in Chardish's quote, it says that the Master songs are hard to clear, so noobs will mash and pass songs like fotbb, hellbeat, and silence, and conclude that they shouldn't be in master. Right now, I don't consider any songs to have a hard enough pass difficulty for it to be any significant factor in what difficulty rating they get.

I could mash and pass FOTBB on my second day of playing FFR.
It took only less than week to be able to pass Revo.

Passing is NOT hard.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 02-23-2007, 09:40 AM

Anyone Got time for an updated # of AAA's list? IMO it should be a seperate thread, but I guess this works too.

**Shashakiro** · 02-23-2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Anyone Got time for an updated # of AAA's list? IMO it should be a seperate thread, but I guess this works too.

workin on it =)

mine will be in order by # of AAA's, and have exact values for everything, even if it's over 100.

**Shashakiro** · 02-24-2007, 02:46 PM

See You Dance should definitely be a 2.5, after playing it again.

Compare it to Secret Zombie Room, for example...it's cleraly much harder, what with the little 16th bursts and jumpy 8ths and stuff.

**jimerax** · 02-25-2007, 10:44 AM

{Satori} - mid-4
ESC - low-4.5
Video of A - high-4.5

Yea, 16ths + jump parts on SYD are hard, compared to other high2- low2.5 songs.
Not pretty sure those make the whole song harder than the song with faster 8th streams, need comments.

**Tasselfoot** · 02-25-2007, 11:14 AM

agree with the 3 songs... mid 4, low 4.5, high 4.5.

GamerShadow · 02-25-2007, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

Hmm, I'm not sure, actually...if it's a 3-frame jack, min goods is 9, if it's a 4-framer, it's still 8.

Someone check? It's the jack caused by the roll with the two glitched arrows that first breaks your combo near the end.

Edit: I interpreted your post wrong. Checking now...

Edit 2: They seemed like 3-frame to me, does anybody have a SS of a 3 frame jack?

Morehead_Kid · 03-4-2007, 01:35 AM

ive got a question...i can COMPLETE most very challenging songs, but rose destroys me in the first 45 seconds...why is it vc and not master only?

**Tasselfoot** · 03-4-2007, 06:22 AM

because it doesn't meet the reqs of FMO? it really isn't even close to FMO. it's just 8th jumps and 180bpm stream.

the songs that are FMO are 180bpm jumpstream, 200bpm stream, 192bpm jumpbursts, 200bpm jacky 8th jumps, etc etc...

falcondude · 03-4-2007, 07:20 AM

Why is Destiny in Dance 2? Most of it is easy, especially compared to the other songs on page 1 of Dance 2. IMO Moonbeam is harder than Destiny.

GamerShadow · 03-4-2007, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falcondude

Why is Destiny in Dance 2? Most of it is easy, especially compared to the other songs on page 1 of Dance 2. IMO Moonbeam is harder than Destiny.

Destiny has a higher BPM, making it harder than Moonbeam.

Also, Moonbeam has some of the most predictable stream patterns in the game, IMO.

rednanaki · 03-4-2007, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falcondude

Why is Destiny in Dance 2? Most of it is easy, especially compared to the other songs on page 1 of Dance 2. IMO Moonbeam is harder than Destiny.

Destiny is quite a bit faster than Moonbeam.

falcondude · 03-4-2007, 09:45 AM

OK. I know pass difficulty doesn't matter much, but I can pass Destiny a lot of the time, but I find Moonbeam almost impossible.

moches · 03-5-2007, 02:20 AM

That's probably because Moonbeam is composed of mainly 16th stream. Destiny has a lot of easy parts, so even if you lost a lot of life during one of the tricky parts, you can gain it all back. Most novices aren't capable of doing that on streamy songs like Moonbeam. They can only clear Moonbeam if they make it to the really easy middle part. Yeah, Moonbeam is probably like right below Destiny, I find them on par, but that's just my opinion.

02-21-2007, 05:41 AM	#463
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 True, you have to hit the arrows after the first glitched arrow earlier before the Miss-judgement of the glitched arrow to get 314 (or 313, maybe).

02-21-2007, 02:20 PM	#465
igotrhythm Fractals! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Meesheegan Age: 38 Posts: 6,534	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 What song was Tass talking about when he said he needed input from less skilled players? I'd be happy to help you guys investigate this.

02-25-2007, 10:44 AM	#471
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 {Satori} - mid-4 ESC - low-4.5 Video of A - high-4.5 Yea, 16ths + jump parts on SYD are hard, compared to other high2- low2.5 songs. Not pretty sure those make the whole song harder than the song with faster 8th streams, need comments.

02-25-2007, 11:14 AM	#472
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 agree with the 3 songs... mid 4, low 4.5, high 4.5. __________________ RIP

03-4-2007, 01:35 AM	#474
Morehead_Kid FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Age: 36 Posts: 64	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 ive got a question...i can COMPLETE most very challenging songs, but rose destroys me in the first 45 seconds...why is it vc and not master only?

03-4-2007, 06:22 AM	#475
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 because it doesn't meet the reqs of FMO? it really isn't even close to FMO. it's just 8th jumps and 180bpm stream. the songs that are FMO are 180bpm jumpstream, 200bpm stream, 192bpm jumpbursts, 200bpm jacky 8th jumps, etc etc... __________________ RIP

03-4-2007, 07:20 AM	#476
falcondude FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 734	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Why is Destiny in Dance 2? Most of it is easy, especially compared to the other songs on page 1 of Dance 2. IMO Moonbeam is harder than Destiny.

03-4-2007, 09:45 AM	#479
falcondude FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 734	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 OK. I know pass difficulty doesn't matter much, but I can pass Destiny a lot of the time, but I find Moonbeam almost impossible.

03-5-2007, 02:20 AM	#480
moches FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 28 Posts: 3,996	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 That's probably because Moonbeam is composed of mainly 16th stream. Destiny has a lot of easy parts, so even if you lost a lot of life during one of the tricky parts, you can gain it all back. Most novices aren't capable of doing that on streamy songs like Moonbeam. They can only clear Moonbeam if they make it to the really easy middle part. Yeah, Moonbeam is probably like right below Destiny, I find them on par, but that's just my opinion.

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