TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[AragakiAyase]

dadcop/pazzaz/mellon under post requirement

dadcop trending down quickly

[AragakiAyase]

at least a reads list would be good (@mellon)

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

mellon are you gonna effort post

Yup I started but doing IRL things at the same time, sorry

here is semi-effort post

Aryxi's posts generally lack content. Doesn't really seem to push anybody or have any strong opinions. Many of his posts are about his own lack of posting. and seem to contain a lot of talk about reading, catching up and being more active but not keeping those promises.

It seems like he is purposefully putting a small amount of effort into the game. In this game, that could be a strategy that is useful to wolves who don't want to accidentally push a partner.

This post also stuck out as very weird to me

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

Sure it does, if I was town every time I've been inactive then why not do it again if I rolled town? I don't see how it doesn't make sense. I'd be doing something different if I was wolf.

This was in response to AA calling out his inactivity. It strikes me as odd because town roles should be concerned about solving the game and finding wolves, not worried about if their meta game makes them seem town. It seems like a wolfy way of thinking to me.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

at least a reads list would be good (@mellon)

okie. current reads are

Town pile:
DFR - somewhat based on tone and his interest in the game, seems like his thought processes are genuine. he does have exams but he continues to post anyway, not letting the exams be an excuse to coast.

AA - has a good mindset and seems to be scum hunting in a solid way. Interactions with MML and Freezin this day were good

Haku - Tone read because of the way he is posting, scum hunting without being too confident but having good ideas. I like his thoughts on AA, it seems like a human-like mindset to be nervous of one person controlling too much of the game

???? Not sure pile ????:
Danceguy - kinda scaring me for some reason. It's mostly just a feeling because when I looked at his posts, I couldn't really find anything. Something about the way he is playing seems just a bit too flippant or something? Hard to explain this one, he is definitely a question mark in my mind. I like that he didn't want to talk about me until I was here and I seem to like his reads. So I really don't know

Freezin - honestly leaning town for Freezin but I don't have any concrete reasons so I just need to look into his posts further

MML - Hard to say because if I were going on a tone/attitude based read I would say he is town. However some of his content is slightly questionable to me so he is another one I need to investigate more.

dadcop - no clue how to read you

Wolf pile:
storn - read earlier post on storn here. I don't think his responses have been very good and I think he's been slipping all over the place. My number one wolf candidate.

Pazazz - seems like he has been coasting and when he does post, nothing too solid and no great ideas or anything.

Aryxi - Similar to my above comment on Pazazz. not too much substance in his posts, lots of excuses and doesn't seem too interested in saying his original thoughts or ideas. Seems content to let everyone else control the game

these are of course subject to change, but that's where I'm at ATM

[R.E. Aryxi]

I did push storn a bit yesterday, no response from him. Either nobody saw it or it was ignored cause it was bad.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

I did push storn a bit yesterday, no response from him. Either nobody saw it or it was ignored cause it was bad.

I noticed you asked storn a few questions but nothing that seemed very aggressive or like a "push". IDK, the way you were asking the questions made it seem like you were trying to get more specific information out of him. maybe trying to sniff out his specific role. which in this game could be wolf sniffing out another wolf. The post I am talking about btw:

Originally Posted by R.E. Aryxi

Questions: what made dadcop scummy other than him voting you?
Why would you kill AA, i have him as my top town and he's had a super solid game.
And why are you putting yourself in the equation? You talk like you have the ability to kill- not lynch- anyone you desire so?
I hate the tone in this btw. Sounds soo vengeful.

[AragakiAyase]

aryxi any thoughts on recent interactions

me/freezin
me/MML

hasn't been much besides that today...

[AragakiAyase]

haku/dfr/dance have no presence this phase

pazzaz/dadcop aren't even posting

what the fuck is this come on

[Pazzaz]

Don't be afraid guys, I'll post. I've been sick as HELL, had to have a clear mind to post. Don't fear a modkill on me.

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Pazzaz

Don't be afraid guys, I'll post. I've been sick as HELL, had to have a clear mind to post. Don't fear a modkill on me.

ok cool ^^ let's see em

[AragakiAyase]

pazzaz once you catch up and stuff, answer this question:

why shouldn't we lynch you today? and who are your top wolves?

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

freezin one more question: let's pretend you know I'm town

does this change your lynch for today at all

No. Only people on table for me today are storn and pazazz with R.E. as an outside possibility that I could see happening. It's pretty much slank hunting. Nothing to do with your alignment, which will come into play tomorrow. Knowing you were confirmed town would make me feel better about my push I guess since your doing the same thing.

[MixMasterLar]

Ok then

@AA I'm fine with Freezin's push on you, in concept. I think you came out looking better then he did though. Freezin also said a few too many things that town shoudn't have said IMHO. That said, you responded to him more more calm and concise then you did my initial push. You responded in tone alot closer to what I was looking for.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I could see myself voting AA. I'm pretty sure that's a hit.

Anyway moving on:

Originally Posted by storn42

quick reads list. gunna do some work tomorrow when im not about to fall asleep. so like the gut lean i had for example is null until i look into it later.

Hakulyte - slight town
AragakiAyase - slight town
R.E. Aryxi - null
dAnceguy117 - null
danceflashrevo - null
MixMasterLar - slight town
mellonxcollie - town
storn42 - woof
dadcop2 - null
Pazzaz - slight woof
FreezinIce - slight slight woof

Does he have a challenge to see how long he can live while blantedly being a wolf? It's almost so bad I feel like it wraps around Pac-Man style and becomes town.

But I've never seen him be this bad as town before, so fuck

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

I think that if Pazazz is going to be modkilled anyway for not meeting the posting requirement, we might as well lynch him so we don't accelerate the game too quickly. I just ISO'd him and his posts generally seem to lack content anyway. One thing that makes me hesitant to lynch him (if he comes back) is this post about MML:


He seemed to have a great mindset here and was looking for the same sorts of tells I am while scum hunting with this setup.

I don't want to move too hastily on the off chance he does come back.

1) If he's going to be modkilled isn't that an aurgument to not kill him? We could be getting another scum. There's a difference between expediting the game and wasted lynches.

2) No, no he did not have a good mindset. His reads where lackluster and they mostly attacked me for my shitposts (which he believed in so fucking much he backed off and said never mind when challenged----see AA's ISO of him) and he's provided nothing else. This is a garbage defense.

Originally Posted by Pazzaz

Don't be afraid guys, I'll post. I've been sick as HELL, had to have a clear mind to post. Don't fear a modkill on me.

sorry to hear you've been sick.

[Pazzaz]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

pazzaz once you catch up and stuff, answer this question:

why shouldn't we lynch you today? and who are your top wolves?

Why you shouldn't lynch me?
I don't really know what to say. Maybe that I haven't done anything scummy except being inactive. Well that's not a good excuse, being inactive is scummy. eeehhh...
Also if you look at charus read list storn was "Wolfy-ish", MML was "holy-shit-this-guy-is-a-wolf" and I was null. I think a confirmed towns reads are pretty important. So please don't kill me.

who are your top wolves?
Probably storn right now. I think he's acting really weird and that slip he did today. Second place would probably be MML. What he said today hasn't really changed my opinion of him.

Also you (I think) thought my vote yesterday was scummy.
So to explain:

1. I thought storn was more suspicious than T-Force.
2. I wanted to show this clearly and without it seeming like empty words.
3. It was obvious that MML wouldn't die.

That's why I switched from MML to storn.

[Pazzaz]

Oh, also storn42

[MixMasterLar]

Raeko: so I'd be read tone if not for my content?

Ok I'll bite

What don't you like about my content? In your words where do they lack? How are them lacking in whatever area you answered an indication I'm might be scum?

[MixMasterLar]

Oh Pazzaz, I thought you said we where cool (etc)....


Confirm town reads are important but that's a weird response all the same. Plus, Charu was wrong about TForce.


....then again everyone was, not my point though

[MixMasterLar]

Votecount?

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

No, no he did not have a good mindset. His reads where lackluster and they mostly attacked me for my shitposts (which he believed in so fucking much he backed off and said never mind when challenged----see AA's ISO of him) and he's provided nothing else. This is a garbage defense.

It's easy for you to say he didn't have a good mindset when you know your own role, to me it seemed like decent logic. I agree that he hasn't provided much else and I stated that in my post. I wasn't defending him just pointing out what I had noticed. this response seems a bit overly defensive to me

[Pazzaz]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Oh Pazzaz, I thought you said we where cool (etc)....


Confirm town reads are important but that's a weird response all the same. Plus, Charu was wrong about TForce.


....then again everyone was, not my point though

I mostly said that to see what reactions it would give, I think I got some information (not much though).
About confirmed town reads, I know it's weak. But you can think that he atleast had to have some proper reason for it that's grounded in a town-mindset. You don't think he chose you randomly do you?