[Concluded] Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 - Page 28

**rushyrulz** · 03-4-2015, 12:04 AM

2nd place I win

**Trumpet63** · 03-4-2015, 12:21 AM

Alright, I'm gonna post the results here, and I'm going to call them not final until sometime tomorrow when I get around to distributing the credits, just in case something unforeseen happens. Please take a minute and review your results and make me aware of any errors. If nothing changes, these should be official... enjoy!

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1. foxfire667 19000 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
2. rushyrulz 16590 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
3. FFR Pro 21 16170 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
4. Mourningfall 16090 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
5. YoshL 14490 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
6. Hakulyte 13120 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
7. ssbmchamp 10650 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
8. axith 10500 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
9. badman7772 10410 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
10. SuperNOVA Gian 9450 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
11. TheSaxRunner05 8980 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
12. sickufully 8210 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
13. MarcusHawkins 7530 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
14. Coldreaver 6980 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
15. Suicidalfatman 5150 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
16. ChaosBolt 4860 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
17. Kawaii025 3890 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
18. FF_rules 3760 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
19. benny58624 1990 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
20. beeattack 1200 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
21. x_egeltje_x 610 credits + FFR TCG Standard Pack
22. hi19hi19 120 credits
23. MyNameIsNothing 120 credits
24. reuben_tate 80 credits
25. SC_coolguy44 30 credits
26. Deadlyx39 20 credits
27. One Winged Angel 0 credits
28. TheLegendofPie 0 credits
29. Juggalo702 0 credits
30. alphabet123456 0 credits
31. Poison- 0 credits
32. ShurykaN 0 credits
33. Xtreme2252 0 credits
34. Kanzas 0 credits
35. KLiTz 0 credits
36. PrawnSkunk 0 credits
37. master q60 0 credits
38. magnans 0 credits
39. grizz13114 0 credits
40. ehhblinkin 0 credits
41. SpaceGorilla 0 credits
42. LotarrMotarr 0 credits
43. Triplestepper 0 credits

**_Zenith_** · 03-4-2015, 12:23 AM

Congratulations to all participants!

**Trumpet63** · 03-4-2015, 12:26 AM

Oh hey, and, in the meantime, tell me what you thought of the tournament!

**_Zenith_** · 03-4-2015, 12:41 AM

Personally from having experience with tournaments, the idea was good but there isn't an effective way to incorporate a divisionless tournament without redefining "division" in itself.

I wish there was more donations to offer more incentive to players, but it is what it is.

I skimmed through song selections and personally, I would avoid longer duration songs just because imo they are not worth trying more than 5 times. Especially a song like Herbie.

**rushyrulz** · 03-4-2015, 12:45 AM

I played herbie once.

Then again I only needed to play it once.

**sickufully** · 03-4-2015, 12:46 AM

Great tourney! Loved almost every part of it. Although there was one flaw I didn't really like. The fact that the higher level songs were aimed directly at higher division players, which gave them higher points. So it meant that from that start, players in D6 and upwards were bound to be at the top of the leaderboards. Had all rounds been scored equally, it would've given lower division players a chance at being in the top 10. The 'Divisionless' title made me think that anyone would have a shot at winning. Just some constructive criticism.

But seeing as I almost grabbed Oni in the last round, I definitely think I've improved thanks to this tourney

Would be great to see you host another one, you seemed to keep on top of things pretty well.

**_Zenith_** · 03-4-2015, 12:48 AM

The level gap between songs that would be for D7 or in this case, anyone who was in the last tier is from 91-96, where most tournaments start around 86-87 for the final tier/D7

**Mourningfall** · 03-4-2015, 01:14 AM

I really enjoyed pushing myself to keep up with Rushy and FFR Pro and I feel like I've improved a lot of my weaknesses as a result of this tournament.
The song choices were enjoyable and the formula (in the end) seemed to accurately portray the skill levels of the remaining participants.
It was fresh and innovative.
Kudos for your efforts~

Congrats Foxfire for the win and great job on second rushy.

**Suicidalfatman** · 03-4-2015, 04:04 AM

Wooo I beat Chaosbolt. No offense, but we were neck to neck that whole time. >=)

Was a fun tournament, thanks Trumpet and grats to everyone who got a pack and did all 7 rounds ^,.,^

Deadlyx39 · 03-4-2015, 08:09 AM

God I limped through that tourney so hard. But hey 20 credits is 20 credits. To the gambling hall...

**foxfire667** · 03-4-2015, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumpet63

Oh hey, and, in the meantime, tell me what you thought of the tournament!

Overall I would say that I enjoyed the premise of a divisionless tournament. Unfortunately though looking at the standings a lot of people didn't experience very tight competition when it came to RP. Of course this is more of a problem with the number of participants than anything else, but it does affect the overall drive from users to try and improve scores multiple times during a given round.

I also didn't mind the song choices for the rounds, though even if I did you don't exactly have a plethora of files to choose from in the 90's range. I will agree with Zenith however that particularly long files can affect user desire to replay them for improvements (I also only played Herbie once). Anyway I appreciate all of the effort that went into creating and managing this event, and thank you very much for the fun I had!

**badman7772** · 03-4-2015, 08:26 PM

Thought the concept of divisionless play was cool. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that higher divisions have an advantage over the lower divisions since they can play the harder songs on the list.

At least you have the opportunity to step up and play a harder song than the one that's at your skill range, or if you're raging to that song, play the easier song and possibly get a nice rating from it.

That being said, there should be a division factor in the formula so that everyone has a chance to win the entire thing. For example if you're D7 and you play the D6 song, it should affect your rating negatively by a certain margin and vise versa for D5 players playing the D6 song.

Last but not least, I wish this tournament was funded more. It was a good concept, but I'd feel bad for anyone using under 200k as their prize pot. I know I'm not the right person to say that considering I don't donate to tournaments, but that's just how I feel about it. Nicely ran tourney overall, and I hope to see this again soon enough.

**Trumpet63** · 03-4-2015, 10:45 PM

Woooo! Lot's of transfers, not so many credits though. Let me know if I missed anything.

Also stay tuned, in a day or so I plan on adding everyone's skill rating and looking at divisions on the spreadsheet. I'll post once I've done that.

Thank you so much for the feedback!

**FF_rules** · 03-5-2015, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trumpet63

Oh hey, and, in the meantime, tell me what you thought of the tournament!

I got rekd; D2 is not a fun place to be when you're compared to all of these monsters lol.

That aside; PA scoring instead of AAA is refreshing for once since I can play D60 songs and not feel bad about it.

03-4-2015, 12:04 AM	#541
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,979	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 2nd place I win __________________

03-4-2015, 12:23 AM	#543
_Zenith_ Accuracy Player Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Age: 28 Posts: 4,628	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 Congratulations to all participants! __________________

03-4-2015, 12:26 AM	#544
Trumpet63 Mostly Ignored Skill Rating Designer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 471	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 Oh hey, and, in the meantime, tell me what you thought of the tournament! __________________ 2014 October 7th 1:03 AM Zageron: Trumpet Trumpet63: yes, im here Zageron: You have a problem.

03-4-2015, 12:41 AM	#545
_Zenith_ Accuracy Player Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Age: 28 Posts: 4,628	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 Personally from having experience with tournaments, the idea was good but there isn't an effective way to incorporate a divisionless tournament without redefining "division" in itself. I wish there was more donations to offer more incentive to players, but it is what it is. I skimmed through song selections and personally, I would avoid longer duration songs just because imo they are not worth trying more than 5 times. Especially a song like Herbie. __________________ Last edited by _Zenith_; 03-4-2015 at 12:46 AM..

03-4-2015, 12:45 AM	#546
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,979	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 I played herbie once. Then again I only needed to play it once. __________________ Last edited by rushyrulz; 03-4-2015 at 12:45 AM..

03-4-2015, 12:46 AM	#547
sickufully Sir Krisk Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vic, Australia Posts: 930	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 Great tourney! Loved almost every part of it. Although there was one flaw I didn't really like. The fact that the higher level songs were aimed directly at higher division players, which gave them higher points. So it meant that from that start, players in D6 and upwards were bound to be at the top of the leaderboards. Had all rounds been scored equally, it would've given lower division players a chance at being in the top 10. The 'Divisionless' title made me think that anyone would have a shot at winning. Just some constructive criticism. But seeing as I almost grabbed Oni in the last round, I definitely think I've improved thanks to this tourney Would be great to see you host another one, you seemed to keep on top of things pretty well. __________________

03-4-2015, 12:48 AM	#548
_Zenith_ Accuracy Player Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Connecticut Age: 28 Posts: 4,628	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 The level gap between songs that would be for D7 or in this case, anyone who was in the last tier is from 91-96, where most tournaments start around 86-87 for the final tier/D7 __________________

03-4-2015, 01:14 AM	#549
Mourningfall ⇐⇓⇑⇒ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paradise Posts: 1,627	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 I really enjoyed pushing myself to keep up with Rushy and FFR Pro and I feel like I've improved a lot of my weaknesses as a result of this tournament. The song choices were enjoyable and the formula (in the end) seemed to accurately portray the skill levels of the remaining participants. It was fresh and innovative. Kudos for your efforts~ Congrats Foxfire for the win and great job on second rushy. Last edited by Mourningfall; 03-4-2015 at 01:31 AM..

03-4-2015, 04:04 AM	#550
Suicidalfatman Claws are better to FFR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Illinois Age: 36 Posts: 678	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 Wooo I beat Chaosbolt. No offense, but we were neck to neck that whole time. >=) Was a fun tournament, thanks Trumpet and grats to everyone who got a pack and did all 7 rounds ^,.,^ __________________ Highest AAA ~ Musicmaker Rx (52) 1-24-2015 Portalbob340's Round Robin Tournament (Div. 3) -> 1st Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament -> 15th

03-4-2015, 08:26 PM	#553
badman7772 It happens for a reason. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 34 Posts: 5,622	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 Thought the concept of divisionless play was cool. Unfortunately, it's pretty clear that higher divisions have an advantage over the lower divisions since they can play the harder songs on the list. At least you have the opportunity to step up and play a harder song than the one that's at your skill range, or if you're raging to that song, play the easier song and possibly get a nice rating from it. That being said, there should be a division factor in the formula so that everyone has a chance to win the entire thing. For example if you're D7 and you play the D6 song, it should affect your rating negatively by a certain margin and vise versa for D5 players playing the D6 song. Last but not least, I wish this tournament was funded more. It was a good concept, but I'd feel bad for anyone using under 200k as their prize pot. I know I'm not the right person to say that considering I don't donate to tournaments, but that's just how I feel about it. Nicely ran tourney overall, and I hope to see this again soon enough. __________________ like, giggity or something?

03-4-2015, 10:45 PM	#554
Trumpet63 Mostly Ignored Skill Rating Designer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 471	Re: Trumpet63’s “Divisionless” Tournament R7 Woooo! Lot's of transfers, not so many credits though. Let me know if I missed anything. Also stay tuned, in a day or so I plan on adding everyone's skill rating and looking at divisions on the spreadsheet. I'll post once I've done that. Thank you so much for the feedback! __________________ 2014 October 7th 1:03 AM Zageron: Trumpet Trumpet63: yes, im here Zageron: You have a problem. Last edited by Trumpet63; 03-4-2015 at 10:45 PM..

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