Anyone else own N++? - Page 2

**PixlSM** · 12-8-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

It's the same description on console than it is on steam, hence my comment. You can google it that'll be faster. I would expect most great N++ players to know what it is, but maybe I'm wrong there and if so then sorry.

i dont really follow achievements since I mostly just play userlevels, I just dont see how "explore the options menu" is the hardest achievement on console, unless they literally only have that achievement

edit: apparently its to enter the options menu after beating the n++ and legacy tabs. I have had the achievement for a while so I had no idea the achievement was more than just going into options.
although I guess that still means the achievements on console are heavily nerfed in comparison to pc

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PixlSM

i dont really follow achievements since I mostly just play userlevels, I just dont see how "explore the options menu" is the hardest achievement on console, unless they literally only have that achievement

Me telling you that it has a 0.5% completion rate should at Least indicate you that the thing is hard to get. Admit to laziness or go look it up but stop arguing pointlessly dude

**PixlSM** · 12-8-2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Me telling you that it has a 0.5% completion rate should at Least indicate you that the thing is hard to get. Admit to laziness or go look it up but stop arguing pointlessly dude

to be fair plenty of games on steam have awful completion rates for achievements

the achievement for all golding the tutorial has 4.2% completion

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PixlSM

to be fair plenty of games on steam have awful completion rates for achievements

the achievement for all golding the tutorial has 4.2% completion

Platinum on ps4 is 0.3%. I'll say I could get every all gold and stuff in a few months but not coop.

**Dinglesberry** · 12-8-2018, 12:45 PM

time for a race it seems!!!

https://www.speedrun.com/nplusplus#SOLO_ULTIMATE

idk what this category is but theres 0 runs submitted so it must be hard af, either that or irrelevant, not sure

**Dinglesberry** · 12-8-2018, 12:49 PM

unrelated to N++ but sort of since its also a really good platformer (imo), but the hardest achievement ive ever seen is

from VVVVV, it has like a 0.3% completion rate and i'd wager alot of the people who have it just used like, steam achievement manager.. considering that VVVVV is probably more popular than N++ (or was when it came out, not sure), yea its pretty dumb lol

hell, the achievement for completing the game with fewer than 500 deaths is only 4% lol

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinglesberry

unrelated to N++ but sort of since its also a really good platformer (imo), but the hardest achievement ive ever seen is

from VVVVV, it has like a 0.3% completion rate and i'd wager alot of the people who have it just used like, steam achievement manager.. considering that VVVVV is probably more popular than N++ (or was when it came out, not sure), yea its pretty dumb lol

hell, the achievement for completing the game with fewer than 500 deaths is only 4% lol

Not that completion rate is the best indicator at all but 4% is relatively pretty high.

**PixlSM** · 12-8-2018, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinglesberry

time for a race it seems!!!

https://www.speedrun.com/nplusplus#SOLO_ULTIMATE

idk what this category is but theres 0 runs submitted so it must be hard af, either that or irrelevant, not sure

all levels is empty because that would be a several hour run that nobody wants to do
the only categories people actually run are intro% and N++ tab X row

**Dinglesberry** · 12-8-2018, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Not that completion rate is the best indicator at all but 4% is relatively pretty high.

well, it's a very short game overall, the world record for it is 12 minutes lol, so like, it's not like theres a huge amount of content, more so just the difficulty....

Like, comparatively speaking, in Grand Theft Auto 5, the achievement for finishing the main story has a 22.8% completion rate on PC, and that game is 25-30 hours long for a casual playthrough without trying to "go fast", but fair enough

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinglesberry

well, it's a very short game overall, the world record for it is 12 minutes lol, so like, it's not like theres a huge amount of content, more so just the difficulty....

Like, comparatively speaking, in Grand Theft Auto 5, the achievement for finishing the main story has a 22.8% completion rate on PC, and that game is 25-30 hours long for a casual playthrough without trying to "go fast", but fair enough

Yeah but time != difficulty in Most cases. Imo when looking for a tough trophy/achievement I expect no more than 0.1% on a game that isn't new. Kinda like the 100% steam achievement pixel mentionned.

DaBackpack · 12-8-2018, 01:26 PM

oh my god who the hell cares

EDIT: I'm still reeling over the fact that OP used the term "pro gamer" unironically

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBackpack

oh my god who the hell cares

EDIT: I'm still reeling over the fact that OP used the term "pro gamer" unironically

Thread is a joke, you Shouldn't care. Your edit is the very thing I was poking fun at initially. Then just bragged to brag shamelessly because yes, who cares~

**awein999** · 12-8-2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PixlSM

N++ is the best platformer but it’s also not nearly as hard as a lot of kaizo hacks
I say this as someone who has cleared a good chunk of the “hardest” tab in the userlevels and most of my level end up under “hardest” as well.
Also there’s no frame perfect inputs in n++ as a result of any trick that would be frame perfect being aided by input buffering. And even then, none of the metanet levels require advanced or hidden tech to all gold levels so it’s not a big deal either way

play more and you'll realize there is harder main game content definitely worthy of kaizo

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by awein999

play more and you'll realize there is harder main game content definitely worthy of kaizo

Yoooo it's Awein ! Remember when we battled for times ? :3

**awein999** · 12-8-2018, 01:37 PM

hey ya i remember lol. i have like 400 hours on pc now and am doing 100% completion but on a hiatus now :3

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awein999

hey ya i remember lol. i have like 400 hours on pc now and am doing 100% completion but on a hiatus now :3

Oh shit, glhf man !

**awein999** · 12-8-2018, 01:49 PM

here's my progress

**Dinglesberry** · 12-8-2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by awein999

play more and you'll realize there is harder main game content definitely worthy of kaizo

lol theres kaizo hacks that are so hard that theyre made to be difficult to tool assist, and 110% impossible for a human

https://youtu.be/FxmMbpLCl88?t=37

obviously regular kaizo isnt this hard but lol i just wanted to link this

**PixlSM** · 12-8-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by awein999

play more and you'll realize there is harder main game content definitely worthy of kaizo

trust me I've put a lot of time into the game and I've worked with a handful of the other active mappers in the community to push the boundary of whats possible to beat in this game
but I dont think N++ main game has anywhere near the difficulty of a lot of high tier kaizo hacks

edit: fwiw there's probably a handful of user levels that are harder than kaizo hacks but there are very few imo

edit edit: skylighter, the creator of that map and also incredibly good player, has put thousands of attempts into that map and I think he got to the third jump like twice iirc

**xXOpkillerXx** · 12-8-2018, 02:46 PM

Third one from bottom left looks like a bitch to get

12-8-2018, 12:45 PM	#25
Dinglesberry longing Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,680	Re: Anyone else own N++? time for a race it seems!!! https://www.speedrun.com/nplusplus#SOLO_ULTIMATE idk what this category is but theres 0 runs submitted so it must be hard af, either that or irrelevant, not sure Last edited by Dinglesberry; 12-8-2018 at 12:46 PM..

12-8-2018, 12:49 PM	#26
Dinglesberry longing Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,680	Re: Anyone else own N++? unrelated to N++ but sort of since its also a really good platformer (imo), but the hardest achievement ive ever seen is from VVVVV, it has like a 0.3% completion rate and i'd wager alot of the people who have it just used like, steam achievement manager.. considering that VVVVV is probably more popular than N++ (or was when it came out, not sure), yea its pretty dumb lol hell, the achievement for completing the game with fewer than 500 deaths is only 4% lol Last edited by Dinglesberry; 12-8-2018 at 12:50 PM..

12-8-2018, 02:46 PM	#40
xXOpkillerXx ✘ Forever OP✘ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada,Quebec Age: 28 Posts: 4,171	Re: Anyone else own N++? Third one from bottom left looks like a bitch to get

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