TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries 2 - GAME THREAD

[thesunfan]

idc about other scenarios I know there are times where its not terrible I care about when Xiz did it

I know I'm being a bitch about this but like
I can't believe you have this opinion here

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

V
do you think Xiz is a good player
do you think fakeclaiming as VT is a good play

i don't think xiz is a good player
i don't think fakeclaiming is a good play

[thesunfan]

why does Xiz not rescind his claim before he replaces out if he's vt
he told us he was replacing out (Which he knows he's not supposed to do!!!!!) so why wouldn't he explain these actions of his future slot

he was just hoping that his replacement would read chat or the thread first but it didn't happen dude

[Vendetta21]

do i believe he would do it when he saw death circling around him? absolutely he would just figure it out later but it seems like a move i can reasonably believe someone being pressed for time and not wanting to die doing

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

her vote was voting on someone who had claimed before the last minute to put xelnya and xiz in a kitb, she didn't know more votes were going to pile in on xelnya

is there no universe where Xel and Xiz are both wolves? I was fine with Xel getting lynched. But I am confident in my Xiz read enough that I was able to vote with some confidence behind it, which I wouldn't have had if I'd voted for somebody else.

I seriously can't see any *realistic* situation where that wasn't a giant slip from RE.

[Hakulyte]

I want to believe this discussion is not serious.

[thesunfan]

isn't not even a slip right?
its just an unfortunate happening
he had no way of knowing that Xiz claimed a role when he posted

[Vendetta21]

it seems more ludicrous to both fakeclaim AND vote your team mate to self-pres -- that's just like throwng the game away

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

is there no universe where Xel and Xiz are both wolves? I was fine with Xel getting lynched. But I am confident in my Xiz read enough that I was able to vote with some confidence behind it, which I wouldn't have had if I'd voted for somebody else.

I seriously can't see any *realistic* situation where that wasn't a giant slip from RE.

the situation where that's what his PM says?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

it seems more ludicrous to both fakeclaim AND vote your team mate to self-pres -- that's just like throwng the game away

I really don't think he had any other choice when he voted for Xel regardless of his alignment

[Vendetta21]

i mean you claim not to be aware but the evidence shows you voting for someone who claimed a PR to put him in a kitb with someone who we now know is a wolf with pretty high confidence

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

it seems more ludicrous to both fakeclaim AND vote your team mate to self-pres -- that's just like throwng the game away

Many people always vote to self-pres regardless of alignment.

I don't know why it is ludicrous to fakeclaim when you know you are on the chopping block either

[Hakulyte]

unvote

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I really don't think he had any other choice when he voted for Xel regardless of his alignment

well it's not regardless of alignment, if he already made one big play, claiming, he doesn't need to make another, bussing his own partner. claiming probably sufficed.

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

Many people always vote to self-pres regardless of alignment.

I don't know why it is ludicrous to fakeclaim when you know you are on the chopping block either

yeah either seem reasonable alone they just seem stupid together

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

i mean you claim not to be aware but the evidence shows you voting for someone who claimed a PR to put him in a kitb with someone who we now know is a wolf with pretty high confidence

First of all, we don't really know Xel was a wolf. We are assuming

And fuck yeah I did!! I'll own it because I still stand behind it. this slot fucking reeks.

[Vendetta21]

xiz may be a bad player, as we have discovered already, but i don't think he's that bad

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

First of all, we don't really know Xel was a wolf. We are assuming

And fuck yeah I did!! I'll own it because I still stand behind it. this slot fucking reeks.

yeah i want to kill you for it it's pretty darn suspicious

[thesunfan]

like
Xiz claimed before Xel was really on the chopping block

I was the only vote on Xel, I think Haku was the only vote anywhere else and it was on Raeko

if he's a wolf I absolutely agree that he dropped the ball not trying to get a wagon going regardless of who his partners were, but I don't get why you're saying he made some bad plays as town because you can't fathom him making bad plays as a wolf

he was crunched for time, I think he was phoneposting at EOD (not sure don't remember), there are multiple explanations, I don't get why you're taking the line you are

I believe you are town so I believe you believe what you're saying but I think that you're make a pretty bad read here

[Hakulyte]

Well, maybe that's where him being busy with life comes in the way.

He did mention he would most likely almost not post.