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There is no rule against alt accounts especially while playing another style.
Oh? Then how come we routinely blacklist accounts just for being alts?

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I don't care that my scores are good enough to "move players down in the rankings", I busted my ASS to get good at downscroll play.
You're saying you worked really hard so you should be able to keep your alt, even if it breaks the rule. What about all the people who worked really hard and then did other things that broke the rules, like abusing glitches or cheating? Should they be pardoned too because of all the time they put into their account?
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I've kept a .txt file and I've been rearranging the lists in the OP to see what hasn't been resolved yet, and I'm up to page 23. OP update will be happening soon.
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Oh? Then how come we routinely blacklist accounts just for being alts?


You're saying you worked really hard so you should be able to keep your alt, even if it breaks the rule. What about all the people who worked really hard and then did other things that broke the rules, like abusing glitches or cheating? Should they be pardoned too because of all the time they put into their account?
We don't. The alt accounts that were wiped were ones that people brought up themselves in this thread to be wiped or alts of people who were blacklisted already. The only other reason they're wiped is if there's one person making many alts intentionally to mess up the score boards.
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There's no rules against alternate accounts and I'm playing on a different style, this is complete horseshit. I don't care that my scores are good enough to "move players down in the rankings", I busted my ASS to get good at downscroll play. In the span of five months, I went from D3 to nearly D6 and now I get rewarded with a scorewipe simply because I want to keep track of my progress?

This is completely asinine.
Nobody said you didn't put effort AJ, but there are other people who worked years too and have goals related to their average rank. That being said, I don't see why your goal of getting good at downscroll would give you the right to slow them with their own goals.
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Oh? Then how come we routinely blacklist accounts just for being alts?

You're saying you worked really hard so you should be able to keep your alt even if it goes against the way we do things? What about all the people who worked really hard and then did other things that broke the rules, like abusing glitches or cheating? Should they be pardoned too because of all the time they put into their account?
wow, ok

nice to know that everyone is trying so goddamn hard to remove my scores from the leaderboards when I've actually taken this seriously and have been trying to build level ranks and tier points; I can't believe this.

i'm not cluttering up the scores as an alternate account playing the same style as my main, this is an account that I've put a LOT OF EFFORT into improving my scores on. I went from 100s of goods on Aim Burst to an SDG in five months. I've gone from mashing 400-500+ goods on FGOs down to < 100 because I actually care and try to become better at a particular style, and now I'm being told that it's bad?

how is my situation even -REMOTELY- comparable? I'm not flooding the goddamn high score boards; this is a completely different account, playing on a completely different speedmod and a different scroll setting. This makes no sense whatsoever.

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Nobody said you didn't put effort AJ, but there are other people who worked years too and have goals related to their average rank. That being said, I don't see why your goal of getting good at downscroll would give you the right to slow them with their own goals.
and my scores being removed completely impedes my progress/track -- I'm playing under a different account with different settings as a different alias/different person; you guys saying that my scores should be removed is just like saying that a random user producing really good scores should be removed too because they're "impeding" other player progress.

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Lmfao, ok I get out of this thread now, arguing on this forum almost always lead to drama and there's nearly no diplomacy anyway... Why make such a big deal omg. (directed to everybody)
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Ziergdsx18 is only one example of someone who had alternate accounts but got wiped on them because they were filling up the scoreboards. Some of Anaru's alts are still up that I'll mention in the OP when it's updated, and he's blacklisted despite any effort he puts into his scores from previous actions.

I appreciate the effort put into a different style of play and it's impressive, but you also should consider the other players that played their tournament songs hundreds of times and still got eliminated. It isn't fair to them and they progress at a different pace than you do.
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so, I should take note of the effort that people are putting into their songs, but should ignore the effort that I'm putting on my own.

I just sat down for two fucking hours playing Frictional Nevada nonstop trying to improve my score, dumping nearly 70 plays, and yet my shit doesn't matter. I should only be thinking about those who are trying, but not myself, who for the record, also has been trying really goddamn hard.
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Ziergdsx18 is only one example of someone who had alternate accounts but got wiped on them because they were filling up the scoreboards. Some of Anaru's alts are still up that I'll mention in the OP when it's updated, and he's blacklisted despite any effort he puts into his scores from previous actions.

I appreciate the effort put into a different style of play and it's impressive, but you also should consider the other players that played their tournament songs hundreds of times and still got eliminated. It isn't fair to them and they progress at a different pace than you do.
There are tons of people on this site with alt accounts for all different reasons. Whether a different playing style, or they don't want to be known by their main anymore and so on. There is no rules against having and playing on an alt account unless it's being abused like in Zierg's case where he was spamming multiple accounts as you mentioned or someone who is blacklisted because they're banished from the game. It's not fair to solely go after only one person's alt account. If we're banishing his then all others have to be as well and no one can make alts anymore. Somehow I don't forsee that going over nor working very well.
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LOL comparing this to zierg is COMPLETELY stupid... Hes playing a different STYLE so its not just making an alt and cluttering up the score boards. Its pretty much the exact same thing as if someone played spread and then made a index account to get scores index on it, even if they DID get really good and fill up the leaderboards they worked their ass off on that different style. This is completely stupid guys.... Just stop lmao
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My opinion on alts is as following -

If it's an alt of a troll with a name of Giga*****9001 or something, SDGing DP. Then wipe them. That's retarded and not needed.

With AJ's alt, All i can see out of the arguing is the fact he's trying really hard to start fresh with a new play style. He hasn't simply made the account and gone "LOL TIEM TO RUIN RANKS", I've seen the progress he's made. It's impressive, and i sure as hell don't have that patience.

Whatever the outcome, I'm impressed with that progress and hope it doesn't get wiped for a bad reason.
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The OP has been updated to this point.

icontrolyourworld has several alternate accounts too that haven't been mentioned in this thread, not sure how that would work out in terms of the scores
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LOL comparing this to zierg is COMPLETELY stupid... Hes playing a different STYLE so its not just making an alt and cluttering up the score boards. Its pretty much the exact same thing as if someone played spread and then made a index account to get scores index on it, even if they DID get really good and fill up the leaderboards they worked their ass off on that different style. This is completely stupid guys.... Just stop lmao
Guess I lied. First of all why call other arguments stupid, no need to do that. Secondly, take for example someone who can AAA files up to 45's, I make an account for index, spread and one-handed, you make one for 2 styles, and other people do so... You now see that person's ranks worse than what they should be. The whole point is that you're the same person playing on multiple accounts (I do have some too, for one-handed and another random one, but I still think all alt accounts shouldn't be accepted). The only acceptable argument AJ has made here is that he has alot of saved progress already.
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The OP has been updated to this point.

icontrolyourworld has several alternate accounts too that haven't been mentioned in this thread, not sure how that would work out in terms of the scores
Thanks, I'll work on the scorewipes/blacklists in a few.

As per Icy if it's many accounts clogging up the scoreboards it could possibly be considered for wiping. It's really a grey area, but I don't think anyone should be making a ton of alts and getting scores on them.
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Yes, you are correct, you are the same person playing on different accounts. BUT the fact of the matter is, youre not playing the same style so you have to learn it all over again which should not be frowned upon.. Making a new account for it is what keeps you motivated. Its not against site rules to make an alt, so therefore this argument is invalid until it is against the rules.
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I'm just going to post this quote from the FFR site wide rules announcement in regards to this little argument going on:
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It is fine to have an additional account to play the game. It is not fine to create multiple accounts just to spam the scoreboards.
So unless you want to appeal for a site wide rule change, alt accounts are perfectly fine.
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It's not like he has 5+ accounts with a bunch of AAA's, it's just 2 with different playing styles. The other other alts I've ever seen wiped are people who have been blacklisted. This should not be an issue.
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Yes, you are correct, you are the same person playing on different accounts. BUT the fact of the matter is, youre not playing the same style so you have to learn it all over again which should not be frowned upon.. Making a new account for it is what keeps you motivated. Its not against site rules to make an alt, so therefore this argument is invalid until it is against the rules.
You don't get my point I think; it might be motivating yes, but it Still slows others progress. Now stop it with the "It is not against the rules" argument, all I'm trying to do here is to have a good discussion on that topic and see why that rule is accepted so you won't get anywhere with that. Also, if anybody thinks i'm against AJ progress or whatever, I'm not, and I have no reason to think that either.

All you guys are saying is that it's not a big deal because he's only 1 out of so many players so it doesn't really matter. Yes, that is true, but what if many people start doing that too ?
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Im glad im not alone on this. This really isnt a debatable issue at all..

Op, look at Foxfire's post, its perfectly allowed to have alts to play on.
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