An Open Letter Re: Mods

[Celirra]

Can we stop deleting or (especially)editing other people's posts, unless there's illegal/banned content (like Xiz posting horse cocks)? I think everyone here's old enough to be able to see negativity or rudeness or whatever words rudeboi1697 can throw at my mother, and if it really is crossing the line just temp ban them without deleting the post... I think deleting posts just makes things awkward and builds tension.


Locking threads is probably fine as a concept but I'm not sure it's been needed as much as it has been, but that's just me.





Maybe it's just me that's noticed some animosity going around here, and maybe I'm tunnel visioned on this because the concept of it bugs me, but I think there should be some kind of mutual communication at least, between mods and non-mods here, and it might help resolve *some* things, or at least cover some ground towards reaching better civility here.

[yo man im awesome]

Originally Posted by Celirra

(like Xiz posting horse cocks)

What the heck have I missed

[Zeldagurlfan1]

Originally Posted by yo man im awesome

What the heck have I missed

SAME LOL 8======D


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[devonin]

There are rules. The mutual communication is "Here are the rules for you to follow" and you deciding "I will follow them" or "I will not follow them"

The only lack of civility is the people acting uncivil, and then if that is in violation of the rules, being infracted in accordance with the rules.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by devonin

There are rules. The mutual communication is "Here are the rules for you to follow" and you deciding "I will follow them" or "I will not follow them"

The only lack of civility is the people acting uncivil, and then if that is in violation of the rules, being infracted in accordance with the rules.

I don't think this needs to be a red vs blue scenario though like it's made out to be with posts like this. No kidding it's people acting uncivil that causes a lack of civility, but blankly censoring it instead of actually dealing with it just fosters negativity.

I didn't argue that people are being rude. I didn't argue that people should or shouldn't be banned (I'm not a mod for a reason). I argued against deleting/editing.

That said, if you and the team want ffr to be more dictatorial instead of... well, a community, then I guess my feedback doesnt have much place.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Celirra

I didn't argue that people should or shouldn't be banned (I'm not a mod for a reason).

this is hardly disqualifying (and this isn't even meant to be a jab at staff)

because realistically those same conversations just occur behind the scenes every time an actual ban is considered

every mod's got an angle

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by devonin

There are rules. The mutual communication is "Here are the rules for you to follow" and you deciding "I will follow them" or "I will not follow them"

The only lack of civility is the people acting uncivil, and then if that is in violation of the rules, being infracted in accordance with the rules.

the problem is your rules are written like shit, and some of them are fucking stupid, and even when they're *not* broken or there's a better option like I dunno we have a word filter, if it bothers you that much, get it fucking added there you idiot, (if I recall correctly I think I messaged prawn about this) I'm the one who got the n-bomb implemented there in the first place, along with gga. I don't even have / have ever had mod powers.

maybe getting some public input on them before changing them ought to be a must eh?

fucking hell

[flashflash account]

I too would like to see the juicy gossip and deleting posts before I get to read them just confuses me

[flashflash account]

yeah, my post where I said

I Can't Believe This Thread Hasn't Been Locked Yet!

got deleted for some reason
wack

[devonin]

There was a time where posting any variant of "in before lock" or "this should be locked" or "this will be locked" was a day ban, so I get where you're coming from thinking that -now- we are being more heavy-handed.

[flashflash account]

but the thread should have been locked basically almost immediately
mod oversight
instead it was allowed to go on to the point where people are spamming and namecalling and generally getting frustrated

maybe it counts as minimodding idk

[Charu]

I too am not a big fan of deleting posts due to derailing or whatever the heck.

Like Travis, I don't even know why he was banned, lol. There are other instances where I was like "why was this guy banned" but ultimately decided to stay silent due to how, err... I guess I was treading along some of the rules?

I assume anyways...

Then again, I thought that thread was okay and love to post on a little slice of the Internet called GameFAQs (specifically SmashFAQs) where shitposting and the like is the norm and mods act only when shady shit is going on (porn, threats, name calling, ect).

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Charu

I too am not a big fan of deleting posts due to derailing or whatever the heck.

Like Travis, I don't even know why he was banned, lol. There are other instances where I was like "why was this guy banned" but ultimately decided to stay silent due to how, err... I guess I was treading along some of the rules?

I assume anyways...

Then again, I thought that thread was okay and love to post on a little slice of the Internet called GameFAQs (specifically SmashFAQs) where shitposting and the like is the norm and mods act only when shady shit is going on (porn, threats, name calling, ect).

we have a feature to move them to another thread

maybe we ought to use that hmmmmm

[XelNya]

side note

don't let them actually add them, they're fucking wrong and stupid

[XelNya]

hey wait I think I know how to mod better than some of these people

I officially announce my bid to run for mod 2019

we'll make ffr great again

[Charu]

Originally Posted by XelNya

hey wait I think I know how to mod better than some of these people

I officially announce my bid to run for mod 2019

we'll make ffr great again

What will your first action be, Mr. Xel?

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Celirra

I hope Xel isn't banned for this because I like Xel well enough, and i think this is a good example of the kind of thing that can be worked out with mutual understanding... and it kinda also is the purpose of this thread, to let people voice opinions about this topic?

Look. If I get banned, we all know I'm gonna laugh it off, and mock it with people one on one, or in a call somewhere, just like I always do. When I get banned, I'll tell you it's usually one I see coming.

I think the current mod team, for the most part, is fine. I might not like their style of moderation, but only one mod in particular has done something I feel is worthy of being made fun of, and then just insulted to hell when the joke is missed, or my point is ignored in favor of pushing their own view point. Especially when it's not exactly the first time it's happened.

I think deleting posts is fine when it serves a purpose. Banning people when they break what's written in the rules thread, sure.

Using the infraction system correctly? I'm for. I still have permanent points I don't deserve according to the old, and new rule set. It's got it's kinks, and tbh most of them are likely worked out with rotating new people in.

Originally Posted by Charu

What will your first action be, Mr. Xel?

You already know what it would be. I'd take the gbin and make it great again. Most of the other mods got the rest of the site in a fairly good place.

Like Rapta over MP? He sent me a message last time I played FFR because I was in the MP room. This man knows what's up. OWA and a few others hit this spot pretty nicely as well.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Look. If I get banned, we all know I'm gonna laugh it off, and mock it with people one on one, or in a call somewhere, just like I always do. When I get banned, I'll tell you it's usually one I see coming.

I think the current mod team, for the most part, is fine. I might not like their style of moderation, but only one mod in particular has done something I feel is worthy of being made fun of, and then just insulted to hell when the joke is missed, or my point is ignored in favor of pushing their own view point. Especially when it's not exactly the first time it's happened.

I think deleting posts is fine when it serves a purpose. Banning people when they break what's written in the rules thread, sure.

Using the infraction system correctly? I'm for. I still have permanent points I don't deserve according to the old, and new rule set. It's got it's kinks, and tbh most of them are likely worked out with rotating new people in.

For what its worth I kinda think your general issue with this stems from a dislike you seem to have for raeko rather than a legitimate issue... if V presented that rule I imagine you wouldn't be this upset over it?
but thats also neither here nor there (its also tgb specific isn't it, which has always been a more subjective and disconnected ruleset to an extent)

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Celirra

For what its worth I kinda think your general issue with this stems from a dislike you seem to have for raeko rather than a legitimate issue... if V presented that rule I imagine you wouldn't be this upset over it?
but thats also neither here nor there (its also tgb specific isn't it, which has always been a more subjective and disconnected ruleset to an extent)

when raeko posted the rules thread in the first place i thought she was aight.

that rules thread is BAD

edit: posted to defend xel thinking rules is bad cause it is

gonna keep tryna hammer that home

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Celirra

For what its worth I kinda think your general issue with this stems from a dislike you seem to have for raeko rather than a legitimate issue... if V presented that rule I imagine you wouldn't be this upset over it?
but thats also neither here nor there (its also tgb specific isn't it, which has always been a more subjective and disconnected ruleset to an extent)

The issue at hand there is that the only reason that word does what she claims it does, is because people like her have given it that pedestal and power to do so. My like or dislike of Raeko aside, what I have to say about it remains the same. Censoring it doesn't solve the issue, removing the power from it does. You do this by not giving it that power in the first place.

I take issue with people who are easily offended, or bothered by things. Partially because I don't get it. Partially because of that, I don't care who I offend. My view of the world and most of the people in it is largely to blame. I know that.

But the reason I'm so in arms about it is that, by letting it into the section of the site, literally meant to have a more loose rule-set, what will make it's way to the main section eventually?

Like seriously. My original posts on this, was a complete hyperbolic parody of the rules, mocking them into oblivion and commenting on them, and intentionally using words and phrases to make my point. But instead of doing things such as adding words to the filter, or really even trying to discuss it (yeah surprise that was an option) I just got deleted. I wanted to talk about it, I would argue rather I may have chose the wrong method.

But, that's not really productive. It's not the correct course of action, because if I had actually broken the rules, I'm well past the point where I deserve any warnings. I know I broke no actual rules with those posts.

The PM I sent to her afterwards in frustration? Which I actually got banned for? 100% broke at least a few site rules. It was nasty.

I can still post in the gbin even. But why the hell would I want to post in the place that's supposed to be for people who post like I do, when the rules there are more rigid and strict.

It makes no sense. If you're gonna keep Raeko as a mod, fine. But over the gbin? Likely the worst assignment here.

And making me a mod? Worst fucking idea ever. Don't ever do that. I'm kidding.